Muse Roll Call

I saw the show and it was really quite different from the time I saw them at Wembley. The biggest difference is that they did relatively fewer songs with keyboards.

I felt that the keyboard oriented songs came off as overly pretentious and grandiose. That stuff just pissed me off. I like the setlist from last night alot more. They should stick to being a guitar band.

Anyone notice the prerecorded keyboard tracks that were used throughout the night? How come that is acceptable on this board but prerecorded vocals aren't?
Originally posted by xcanuck:
Anyone notice the prerecorded keyboard tracks that were used throughout the night? How come that is acceptable on this board but prerecorded vocals aren't?
I must have missed the thread where everyone on the board gave their acceptance of using pre-recorded items during a live show.

Anyhoo, I believe there is quite a difference between someone opting to use a keyboard loop while playing guitar (or another instrument) live and a person who lip synchs à la Ms. Ashlee.
yes. I agree. i believe there are countless bands who use guitar/keyboard or even drum loops in their live shows nowadays.

some bands prefer to add touring musicians to provide the extra instrument they may have recorded in the studio, others decide to loop something, so the band can play, as is, on stage.

doesn't make much of a difference to me really.

hip hop artists do this all the time, rapping to thier records.

I presume if Muse or anyone else had prerecorded thier lead guitar part, or were faking the guitar solo, it may come off as super lame.

the difference being, no one is "faking" to play the part you are hearing but not seeing played.
Actually, there was a guy off stage on a korg, who i presume was doing the extra sounds. Does it count if it was live, but not on the stage?
Originally posted by redsock:
Actually, there was a guy off stage on a korg, who i presume was doing the extra sounds. Does it count if it was live, but not on the stage?
Didn't you learn, "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain!"? ;)
Originally posted by redsock:
Actually, there was a guy off stage on a korg, who i presume was doing the extra sounds. Does it count if it was live, but not on the stage?
absolutely. mr balcony watcher. i never saw him, was he on the left side of the stage kinda?

dont the mars volta do that off stage shadiness too?
there was plenty of "behind the curtain" activity last night. there's just no way three dudes can make that much sound live.

that said, i enjoyed the show. i've heard such good things about them from so many people, there was no way they'd live up to their hype, but i dug the guitar based songs. kinda reminded me of when i saw radiohead at the old club, back when they played rock songs.
OK, I admit I'm a Muse newcomer (relatively) too. I've been listening to Absolution ever since it was released here in the U.S., and I recently ordered Showbiz. What about those UK imports I see for sale on Amazon.com? Are those worth getting at import prices? Or do you think they'll show up as domestic releases soon enough?
Get Origin of Symmetry. It's their best CD, in my opinion. Absolution's got a number of catchy singles, but as a whole, Origin's just amazing. Not a bad song on it.
Originally posted by thatguy:
there was plenty of "behind the curtain" activity last night. there's just no way three dudes can make that much sound live.
Ahh…that would explain alot. OK - so not prerecorded but I'm guessing Matt Bellamy's ego wouldn't allow him to give anyone else credit for creating music beyond the absolute necessary minimum.

I used to really like this band but the more I see them live, the more they bug me. I just can't get past Bellamy's inflated head. More room for Sonick to rock out the next time, eh? :)
Originally posted by xcanuck:
I just can't get past Bellamy's inflated head. More room for Sonick to rock out the next time, eh? :)
being a Radiohead fan, Bellamy's head isnt anywhere near the size of "la tete du Thom Yorke"

in fact, i think he's Thom's understudy.

but thanks for making room for me, bro ;)
Iâ??m on to you Mister Bellamy….

It is world domination you're after. And, you dare to evoke the spirits of our Gods: Queen, Radiohead, Metallica…Rachmaninoff, weaving your dark glamorous spell to seduce the armies of brit rock, brit pop, heavy metal, and punk into your ranks. You, the Phantom of your opera, beckon us to crossover and embrace you…..all the while assailing our senses with your pleading lyricism, soaring keyboard arpeggios, grinding guitars, and throbbing bass urging us on. It is Hysteria and I am afraid. But it is too late…surrounded by unfamiliar faces, we rush to you. Your rapturous vision is near and you laugh at the end of all things sacred and dear.

Bring it - we are ready for your absolution.


(sorry too much coffee) :D
I was pretty much ignoring this thread because I didn't go, but did they really only play 1 song from Showbiz?
Originally posted by pollard:
I was pretty much ignoring this thread because I didn't go, but did they really only play 1 song from Showbiz?
yes.

i believe so. thier setlist pretty much consisted of Origin on Symmetry and Absolution.

and again, being a Radiohead fan….i have learned to live with a complete departure from early recordings.

i dont think the songs on Showbiz really uphold the big rock sound they are trying to play now. perhaps once they are more established in america they will start playing more Showbiz tracks.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
yes.

i believe so. thier setlist pretty much consisted of Origin on Symmetry and Absolution.

and again, being a Radiohead fan….i have learned to live with a complete departure from early recordings.

i dont think the songs on Showbiz really uphold the big rock sound they are trying to play now. perhaps once they are more established in america they will start playing more Showbiz tracks.
I guess, I would have thought they would have played Muscle Museum as well. I bet if they were to release origin of symmetry here it would be a bigger hit for them than Absolution. I really think Absolution is their weakest effort. Which I guess is why it is on the radio ;) .
I loved the show. The sound wasn't great, true, (15ft frm the stage anyway) and they really could have left out 'ruled by secrecy' in favor of something like 'muscle museum', but im splitting hairs. the crowd around me, 100% teenybopper, was surprisingly pretty cool, especially during time is running out—matt didnt even have to sing the chorus for that one. on another topic, don't muse ever play sunburn's guitar solo with a, uh, guitar? it's ok on keyboards, but it wouldve been amazing on a guitar. new born and the small print were done vey well, and I don't even like TSP.
Bonus: Desperate fans behind me screaming for space dementia, and a rather preppy audience member clad in translucent shades, while indoors, no less, having his meticulously dishevelled hair messed up while rocking out to stockholm syndrome.
and, i was able to get on the metro abck home w/time to spare. How considerate of them to finish 5 minutes before the green line's last run. :D