Originally posted by Venerable Bede:condi climbing up proves that imcompentence rises to the highest level
Originally posted by Random Citizen:with only a few exceptions, media is sounding like most of this cabinet will be gone. the only names i'm not hearing about leaving are leavitt at epa and veneman at agriculture. mineta, powell, ashcroft, ridge are all leaving. . .rumsfeld will leave in time. bush would love to put condi rice at defense, but state is probably the most likely place, if she stays in the administration.
Both Colin Powell and Tom Ridge have already said publicly they had plans to move on if Bush served a second term.
but then, that's par for the course for presidents that are re-elected. . .
Worst Case sCenarios
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:[/QB]
Rob and his girl
http://www.fatalemedia.com/videos/bend_over_boyfriend.html
Leave it to you to find that website.
Originally posted by chimbly sweep:fun to say, but it leaves out the fact that it was well known that if the dead man won, his wife would serve in his place, it was a sympathy vote
PUBLIC SERVICE MESSAGE: Please do not forget that this is a man who lost his Congressional seat to a DEAD MAN.
Originally posted by Deepak Chopra:Don't forget the Patriot act…
let me start again, othing really crazy happened in the last 4 years, well apart from the war on Iraq the gay marriage thing, oh and banning stem cell research….
Also expect iPods to be outlawed when the INDUCE act gets passed…
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:thats not going to happen for christ sakes, thats the industrys reply to scare people in to rejecting the bill, I am not for the bill but it does nobody any good if both sides just keep spouting the drivel coming from the main combatants on any issue
Also expect iPods to be outlawed when the INDUCE act gets passed…
look on the brightside emo kids….fuck…can't think of a brightside…
STop complaining, just accept that Bush won. at least you don't live in iraq. Now Bush can go all out and kill whoever he wants…just like when he plays with his G.I. Joe dolls. i mean action figures.
STop complaining, just accept that Bush won. at least you don't live in iraq. Now Bush can go all out and kill whoever he wants…just like when he plays with his G.I. Joe dolls. i mean action figures.
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:does that mean we all will be forced to be indiscreet with the American Flag? that's surprisingly risque and radical for Bush….an odd prediction indeed
29th Amendment - Making the discretion of the American Flag a Crime.
That magazine cover definitely hasn't been all over the internet today, or yesterday.
Originally posted by Deepak Chopra:
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i'm tired off to my bunker for the next four years… but i need to desecreate some bush signs first.
For once…..mabye twice….Flawd speaks of wisdom.
http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20041104/ap_on_go_su_co/eln_specter_supreme_court
Bush Is Warned About Anti-Abortion Judges
Thu Nov 4,10:16 AM ET
By LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press Writer
PHILADELPHIA - The Republican expected to chair the Senate Judiciary Committee (news - web sites) next year bluntly warned newly re-elected President Bush (news - web sites) on Wednesday against putting forth Supreme Court nominees who would seek to overturn abortion rights or are otherwise too conservative to win confirmation.
Sen. Arlen Specter (news, bio, voting record), fresh from winning a fifth term in Pennsylvania, also said the current Supreme Court now lacks legal "giants" on the bench.
"When you talk about judges who would change the right of a woman to choose, overturn Roe v. Wade (news - web sites), I think that is unlikely," Specter said, referring to the landmark 1973 Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion.
"The president is well aware of what happened, when a number of his nominees were sent up, with the filibuster," Specter added, referring to Senate Democrats' success over the past four years in blocking the confirmation of many of Bush's conservative judicial picks. "… And I would expect the president to be mindful of the considerations which I am mentioning."
With at least three Supreme Court justices rumored to be eyeing retirement, including ailing Chief Justice William Rehnquist (news - web sites), Specter, 74, would have broad authority to reshape the nation's highest court. He would have wide latitude to schedule hearings, call for votes and make the process as easy or as hard as he wants.
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., expressed confidence Wednesday that Bush will have more success his second term in winning the confirmation of his judicial nominees.
"I'm very confident that now we've gone from 51 seats to 55 seats, we will be able to overturn this what has become customary filibuster of judicial nominees," Frist said in Orlando, Fla.
Legal scholar Dennis Hutchinson said Specter's message to the White House appears to be "a way of asserting his authority" as he prepares to chair the Judiciary Committee when Sen. Orrin Hatch (news, bio, voting record), R-Utah, is term-limited from keeping the post next year.
"What he may be trying to do is say, 'Don't just think that I'm going to process what you send through. I have standards, I'm going to take an independent look, you have to deal with me,'" said Hutchinson, a law professor at the University of Chicago.
When asked Wednesday about Specter's impending chairmanship, another Republican on the panel, Sen. John Cornyn (news, bio, voting record) of Texas, did not offer a ringing endorsement.
"We'll have to see where he stands," said Cornyn, a close friend of Bush who worked to get all of the president's nominees through the Senate. "I'm hoping that he will stand behind the president's nominees. I'm intending to sit down and discuss with him how things are going to work. We want to know what he's going do and how things are going to work."
While Specter is a loyal Republican — Bush endorsed him in a tight Pennsylvania GOP primary — he routinely crosses party lines to pass legislation and counts a Democrat, Sen. Joseph Biden (news, bio, voting record) of Delaware, as one of his closest friends.
A self-proclaimed moderate, he helped kill President Reagan's nomination of Robert Bork to the Supreme Court and of Jeff Sessions to a federal judgeship. Specter called both nominees too extreme on civil rights issues. Sessions later became a Republican senator from Alabama and now sits on the Judiciary Committee with Specter.
Despite a bruising challenge from conservatives this year in Pennsylvania's GOP primary, Specter won re-election Tuesday by an 11-point margin by appealing to moderate Republicans and ticket-splitting Democrats, even as Pennsylvania chose Democrat John Kerry (news - web sites) over Bush.
A former district attorney, Specter also bemoaned what he called the lack of any current justices comparable to legal heavyweights like Oliver Wendell Holmes, Louis Brandeis, Benjamin Cardozo and Thurgood Marshall, "who were giants of the Supreme Court."
"With all due respect to the (current) U.S. Supreme Court (news - web sites), we don't have one," he said.
Though he refused to describe the political leanings of the high court, Specter said he "would characterize myself as moderate; I'm in the political swim. I would look for justices who would interpret the Constitution, as Cardozo has said, reflecting the values of the people."
Bush Is Warned About Anti-Abortion Judges
Thu Nov 4,10:16 AM ET
By LARA JAKES JORDAN, Associated Press Writer
PHILADELPHIA - The Republican expected to chair the Senate Judiciary Committee (news - web sites) next year bluntly warned newly re-elected President Bush (news - web sites) on Wednesday against putting forth Supreme Court nominees who would seek to overturn abortion rights or are otherwise too conservative to win confirmation.
Sen. Arlen Specter (news, bio, voting record), fresh from winning a fifth term in Pennsylvania, also said the current Supreme Court now lacks legal "giants" on the bench.
"When you talk about judges who would change the right of a woman to choose, overturn Roe v. Wade (news - web sites), I think that is unlikely," Specter said, referring to the landmark 1973 Supreme Court decision legalizing abortion.
"The president is well aware of what happened, when a number of his nominees were sent up, with the filibuster," Specter added, referring to Senate Democrats' success over the past four years in blocking the confirmation of many of Bush's conservative judicial picks. "… And I would expect the president to be mindful of the considerations which I am mentioning."
With at least three Supreme Court justices rumored to be eyeing retirement, including ailing Chief Justice William Rehnquist (news - web sites), Specter, 74, would have broad authority to reshape the nation's highest court. He would have wide latitude to schedule hearings, call for votes and make the process as easy or as hard as he wants.
Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn., expressed confidence Wednesday that Bush will have more success his second term in winning the confirmation of his judicial nominees.
"I'm very confident that now we've gone from 51 seats to 55 seats, we will be able to overturn this what has become customary filibuster of judicial nominees," Frist said in Orlando, Fla.
Legal scholar Dennis Hutchinson said Specter's message to the White House appears to be "a way of asserting his authority" as he prepares to chair the Judiciary Committee when Sen. Orrin Hatch (news, bio, voting record), R-Utah, is term-limited from keeping the post next year.
"What he may be trying to do is say, 'Don't just think that I'm going to process what you send through. I have standards, I'm going to take an independent look, you have to deal with me,'" said Hutchinson, a law professor at the University of Chicago.
When asked Wednesday about Specter's impending chairmanship, another Republican on the panel, Sen. John Cornyn (news, bio, voting record) of Texas, did not offer a ringing endorsement.
"We'll have to see where he stands," said Cornyn, a close friend of Bush who worked to get all of the president's nominees through the Senate. "I'm hoping that he will stand behind the president's nominees. I'm intending to sit down and discuss with him how things are going to work. We want to know what he's going do and how things are going to work."
While Specter is a loyal Republican — Bush endorsed him in a tight Pennsylvania GOP primary — he routinely crosses party lines to pass legislation and counts a Democrat, Sen. Joseph Biden (news, bio, voting record) of Delaware, as one of his closest friends.
A self-proclaimed moderate, he helped kill President Reagan's nomination of Robert Bork to the Supreme Court and of Jeff Sessions to a federal judgeship. Specter called both nominees too extreme on civil rights issues. Sessions later became a Republican senator from Alabama and now sits on the Judiciary Committee with Specter.
Despite a bruising challenge from conservatives this year in Pennsylvania's GOP primary, Specter won re-election Tuesday by an 11-point margin by appealing to moderate Republicans and ticket-splitting Democrats, even as Pennsylvania chose Democrat John Kerry (news - web sites) over Bush.
A former district attorney, Specter also bemoaned what he called the lack of any current justices comparable to legal heavyweights like Oliver Wendell Holmes, Louis Brandeis, Benjamin Cardozo and Thurgood Marshall, "who were giants of the Supreme Court."
"With all due respect to the (current) U.S. Supreme Court (news - web sites), we don't have one," he said.
Though he refused to describe the political leanings of the high court, Specter said he "would characterize myself as moderate; I'm in the political swim. I would look for justices who would interpret the Constitution, as Cardozo has said, reflecting the values of the people."
I am going with the Republicans working real hard on the amendment allowing nationalized citizens who have been in this country for more than 20 years to run for president. By doing this they can get Arnold to run for president in 08 (the scary part is that he would win). They can not run DICK, since his is a bitter old man and I would hope that people are smart enough not to vote for him if he did run. Then again, everyone knew Bush lied about Iraq and they voted him in just the same (silly rabbits).
Originally posted by chimbly sweep:While I am not an Ashcroft fan, Mel Carnahan was a beloved former governor who died in the middle of the race. Ashcroft stopped campaigning, which was the right thing to do. Carnahan won the race, largely due to a "sympathy" vote. To insinuate that Ashcroft actively campaigned against a dead man is false.
Originally posted by O'Mankie:PUBLIC SERVICE MESSAGE: Please do not forget that this is a man who lost his Congressional seat to a DEAD MAN.
I predict Ashcroft is out to become hee-haws next Supreme Court Justice nomination…
The worst case scenario I can think of comes further in the future …
They've been saying that George P. Bush (son of Jeb Bush) might run for President at some point.
I feel like there is some sort of dynasty starting here - please NO!
Cheers
DJ Medusa.
They've been saying that George P. Bush (son of Jeb Bush) might run for President at some point.
I feel like there is some sort of dynasty starting here - please NO!
Cheers
DJ Medusa.
You mean like if Hillary was elected, and then down the line, Chelsea?
Or maybe Roger Clinton has a kid?
Or maybe Roger Clinton has a kid?
Originally posted by Medusa:
I feel like there is some sort of dynasty starting here - please NO!
Cheers
DJ Medusa.
Originally posted by Medusa:george p. would be the first hispanic president, unless bill richardson somehow gets himself elected.
The worst case scenario I can think of comes further in the future …
They've been saying that George P. Bush (son of Jeb Bush) might run for President at some point.
He is one pretty, sweet Mexican boy.
http://prettyboys.4t.com/photo.html
http://prettyboys.4t.com/photo.html
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
Originally posted by Medusa:george p. would be the first hispanic president, unless bill richardson somehow gets himself elected.
The worst case scenario I can think of comes further in the future …
They've been saying that George P. Bush (son of Jeb Bush) might run for President at some point.
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Arnold's a pro-gay, pro-choice Rep from California. He can't win a national election, especially with "moral values" as the primary driver of conservatives' votes.
If a pro-choice, pro-gay Republican had a chance of winning, Rudy Giuliani would be the candidate in a New York minute… But, can't win those evangelicals with these pinko coastal conservatives.
If a pro-choice, pro-gay Republican had a chance of winning, Rudy Giuliani would be the candidate in a New York minute… But, can't win those evangelicals with these pinko coastal conservatives.
Originally posted by set1914:
I am going with the Republicans working real hard on the amendment allowing nationalized citizens who have been in this country for more than 20 years to run for president. By doing this they can get Arnold to run for president in 08 (the scary part is that he would win). They can not run DICK, since his is a bitter old man and I would hope that people are smart enough not to vote for him if he did run. Then again, everyone knew Bush lied about Iraq and they voted him in just the same (silly rabbits).