The tickets are worth what they're worth

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Then decide…………..

Originally posted by ggw™:

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
[qb]are the Polyphonic Spree really going to sell that many more records while on a major? me thinks a great publist will be a better return on the money they are giving back to the record company.

Actually, as a 26-musician band, not to mention crew, the Spree requires a massive amount of tour support to be able to play gigs around the country (bus rental, hotels and meals for 30-odd people, insurance, per diems, etc.) Though there are some economies to their larger scale, I imagine this would be at least four times the amount that a standard 4-piece band would require. Their deal gives them enough money for all of them to quit their day jobs and play as much as they can. They don't need a better publicist – they have press out the wazoo. What they need is an audience, and the best way for them to get that is to tour. And be in VW ads.

Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Ok I have a scenario,

the white stripes annonce they are playing a 3000 seater venue in 10 weeks time.

TM decides to release all tickets on ebay. But it only releases 150 pairs of tickets every week. It does not tell people there are more tickets to be sold at the end of the first or subsequent allocations.

There will be massive demand for tickets amongst fans. Bidding wars break out and for the first three weeks people are getting gounged for over a $100 a ticket, some paying considerably more.

Is that a good way for a band to treat its fans and a good way for TM to generate money? The most ardent fans will be the ones paying the highest prices.

Originally posted by jpbelmondo:
they have press out the wazoo.

Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:

fine suggestions, but this way if there is no fixed ticket price, the scalper can charge what he wants.

WRONG! the scalper can charge as much as people are willing to pay. If more people refused to pay the high prices they would drop.

You (the concert going public) have only yourselves to blame.

Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Amen.

[Devil worshipper]

What happens if tickets are only availble via ticketmaster. say if the venue does not sell its own tickets? Isnt DAR that way?

Originally posted by jadetree:

Originally posted by jpbelmondo:
they have press out the wazoo.

really? walk around and ask random people if they have heard of them, bet most have not

Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Ok I have a scenario,

the white stripes annonce they are playing a 3000 seater venue in 10 weeks time.

TM decides to release all tickets on ebay. But it only releases 150 pairs of tickets every week. It does not tell people there are more tickets to be sold at the end of the first or subsequent allocations.

There will be massive demand for tickets amongst fans. Bidding wars break out and for the first three weeks people are getting gounged for over a $100 a ticket, some paying considerably more.

Is that a good way for a band to treat its fans and a good way for TM to generate money? The most ardent fans will be the ones paying the highest prices.

Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Then decide…………..

I would have paid $50 to have seen the tyde the other night. It cost $7.

Originally posted by mankie:
If someone pays $100 for White Stripes tickets I have absolutely no sympathy whatsofuckingever..they deserve to get ripped off.

Originally posted by Celeste:

Don't go to the show…sometimes you have to make sacrifices for something you believe in

You should change your user name to "joan of arc"

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
First, I think under the proposed plan, the band has to agree to it.

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:

Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
Ok I have a scenario,

the white stripes annonce they are playing a 3000 seater venue in 10 weeks time.

TM decides to release all tickets on ebay. But it only releases 150 pairs of tickets every week. It does not tell people there are more tickets to be sold at the end of the first or subsequent allocations.

There will be massive demand for tickets amongst fans. Bidding wars break out and for the first three weeks people are getting gounged for over a $100 a ticket, some paying considerably more.

Is that a good way for a band to treat its fans and a good way for TM to generate money? The most ardent fans will be the ones paying the highest prices.

First, I think under the proposed plan, the band has to agree to it.

Second, of course the most ardent fans would pay the highest price, as the product has a higher value for them.

Originally posted by jpbelmondo:

Originally posted by ggw™:

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
[qb]are the Polyphonic Spree really going to sell that many more records while on a major? me thinks a great publist will be a better return on the money they are giving back to the record company.

Actually, as a 26-musician band, not to mention crew, the Spree requires a massive amount of tour support to be able to play gigs around the country (bus rental, hotels and meals for 30-odd people, insurance, per diems, etc.) Though there are some economies to their larger scale, I imagine this would be at least four times the amount that a standard 4-piece band would require. Their deal gives them enough money for all of them to quit their day jobs and play as much as they can. They don't need a better publicist – they have press out the wazoo. What they need is an audience, and the best way for them to get that is to tour. And be in VW ads.

now it makes sense, seeing as not every indie label is going be able to front the tour support the PSpree is going to need. So signing with a major in order to get that money is away of hedging ones bet that they can reach a bigger audience and there fore record sales by touring. lets hope that recoup their costs via record sales and concerts to actually make money. thanks for info! :D

Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
First, I think under the proposed plan, the band has to agree to it.

If it becomes common practice, then bands will agree. Or "our label made us" will be heard.

there are a lot of shows that I would have paid far more than the face ticket price. Am I the only one in this situation?

Originally posted by bags:
You had to say that, Markie, didn't you….. :(

Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
there are a lot of shows that I would have paid far more than the face ticket price. Am I the only one in this situation?

Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:

[QB]there are a lot of shows that I would have paid far more than the face ticket price. Am I the only one in this situation?

There are some shows I was willing to pay scalper prices but always got lucky and managed to find some poor chump with a spare ticket available or something.

I never have, but have been prepared to. That's why I'm saying if you pay it stop yer whinging.

Originally posted by Jaguär:
Which would have been more than offset by how many shows that I would have MISSED if they had cost me anymore.

Originally posted by jadetree:
I would pay over $50 for, unless there were lots of acts involved.