sonickteam2
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over the hill?
September 09, 2003 at 06:59 PM UTC
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OK, at the record store last night, we got into a rather interesting conversation, that i think you guys can eat up.
We were thinking of "rock" bands/musicians that have actually aged well.
Basically, bands that have put out better records post 40ish than pre 40ish.
I could only think of Tom Petty really.
Anyone else? and no , country/folk/blues/jazz…dont count, we are talking ROCK!
markie
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Re: over the hill?
September 09, 2003 at 07:27 PM UTC
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u2 and REM, and the stones and Paul McCartney……
Oh wait, all of them are shite now.
How about the tyde, they are all old gits and the previous incarnations of bands they were in were not nearly as good. Pretty tenuous though, huh?
Rhett might want to make a case for Nick Lowe. I would make a case for Matt Johnson of THe the. I think Joe Strummers two mescalero albums were brilliant also.
markie
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Re: over the hill?
September 09, 2003 at 07:29 PM UTC
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And I guess David Gedge from the wedding present and now cinerama. I think Torino, his last proper album, is his best work
Guiny
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Re: over the hill?
September 09, 2003 at 07:30 PM UTC
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Yeah i'd have to say Joe Strummer aged well.
sparky
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Re: over the hill?
September 09, 2003 at 07:32 PM UTC
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Tom Waits.
Rhett Miller
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Re: over the hill?
September 09, 2003 at 07:32 PM UTC
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I thought Tom Petty was a folk artist.
I would make the case for Nick Lowe's last three albums being as good as anything he did earlier in his career.
And Neil Young's output in the 90's was excellent.
Steve Earle's albums since getting out of the clink at 40 have been better than his earlier output, with the exception of his last album.
jadetree
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Re: over the hill?
September 09, 2003 at 07:32 PM UTC
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I think Paul Weller has aged well, not better necessarily, but he has aged well.
markie
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Re: over the hill?
September 09, 2003 at 07:35 PM UTC
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Originally posted by jadetree:
I think Paul Weller has aged well, not better necessarily, but he has aged well.
I think he looks and sounds good, but the music doesnt contain half the passion to be found on setting sons. Although Stanley Road was pretty great, illumination is just very solid in my opinion.
jadetree
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Re: over the hill?
September 09, 2003 at 07:37 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Anton Newcombe:
I think he looks and sounds good, but the music doesnt contain half the passion to be found on setting sons. Although Stanley Road was pretty great, illumination is just very solid in my opinion.
Listened to Illumination last night, and it is good, especially like the song with Kelly Jones.
markie
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Re: over the hill?
September 09, 2003 at 07:39 PM UTC
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I like the second of the bonus tracks….. The kelly song did prick up my ears as well though.
ggw
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Re: over the hill?
September 09, 2003 at 07:41 PM UTC
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There are many who are above 40 and still good, but I can't think of any "rock" artist who is better after 40 than before. Rock is a young man's game.
Sir HC
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Re: over the hill?
September 09, 2003 at 07:45 PM UTC
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The guys from the Flaming Lips are well into their forties. I hate their early pre-Transmissions stuff.
Morphine's M. Sandman was in his 40's when he started the band. So I guess everything before that was crap as there was nothing.
Fred Schnieder from the B-52s. Still looks the same. No new albums though.
Helios Creed. His work has been getting better with age. Didn't really like his early stuff, though I haven't listened to Chrome.
Mission of Burma bassist Clint Connolly (or however it is spelled). His band Consonant is great. Though I guess the early stuff was quite good too.
Massive Attack. Forget which guy is in his 40's, but they didn't get rolling until the second album. Daddy G I think is the old fart.
there are more, I have to remember…
Rhett Miller
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Re: over the hill?
September 09, 2003 at 07:46 PM UTC
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Mark Sandman was the leader of Treat Her Right before Morphine. I liked them better than Morphine…
Originally posted by Sir HC:
The guys from the Flaming Lips are well into their forties. I hate their early pre-Transmissions stuff.
Morphine's M. Sandman was in his 40's when he started the band. So I guess everything before that was crap as there was nothing.
Fred Schnieder from the B-52s. Still looks the same. No new albums though.
Helios Creed. His work has been getting better with age. Didn't really like his early stuff, though I haven't listened to Chrome.
Mission of Burma bassist Clint Connolly (or however it is spelled). His band Consonant is great. Though I guess the early stuff was quite good too.
Massive Attack. Forget which guy is in his 40's, but they didn't get rolling until the second album. Daddy G I think is the old fart.
there are more, I have to remember…
markie
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Re: over the hill?
September 09, 2003 at 07:46 PM UTC
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I would like to repeat David Gedge and Matt Johnson…..
and add a Mark E Smith of the Fall. I dont know if he got better, but it appears to me he just stayed the same.
markie
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Re: over the hill?
September 09, 2003 at 07:49 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Sir HC:
Massive Attack. Forget which guy is in his 40's, but they didn't get rolling until the second album. Daddy G I think is the old fart.
WHAT? their first album is a masterpiece. It created the whole trip hop genre. I didnt think any of the main members of Massive attack were that old. Horace Andy who always does some of the vocals is, he was a great reggae guy in the 70's.
Sir HC
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Re: over the hill?
September 09, 2003 at 07:51 PM UTC
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Sir HC:
The guys from the Flaming Lips are well into their forties. I hate their early pre-Transmissions stuff.
Flaming Lips….you should win a prize, though, i did not know they were in thier forties, and some would say they are not rock….but someone always does.
Have an article from around the time of Clouds Taste Metallic. When Transmissions came out they were mid-thirties.