The Hip-Hop Thread

18 posts so far and not a mention of the best hip hop song ever…"Bust a Move" by Young MC?

You guys are a bunch of pathetic upper middle class wiggers. Director excepted, of course.
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by TheREALHunter:
I say the Bomb Squad about killed everyone back in that era production-wise, when they were first breaking out crazy innovative stuff, Dre was still making lame shit like "Horney Computer". As far as N.W.A. goes, the first 3 songs off of Straight Outta Compton are crucial and the rest is pretty ho-hum in comparison (not saying it's terrible mind you but NOT on the consistency level of those first 3 tracks).
I beg to differ. If It Ain't Ruff would most def go on my essential Dre list. And Express Yourself & Dopeman, I'm also quite sure aren't in the 1st 3 tracks. If I remember correctly it's:

Straight Outta Compton
Fuck The Police
Gangsta, Gangsta

I recently read somewhere that if you are of a certain age, you will never forget the first time you heard Compton. And that was awesome, but I'll also never forget it. I'd listened to a lot of rap but the first time I heard Compton, stoned as shit with my buddy Matt in his grandparents' basement, I couldn't believe it. I'd never heard like it, and we were ecstatic and terrified all at once.

So it's a stone classic album, but I must admit, it's the first three tracks I play whenever I want a dose. I'll throw Express Yourself on a mix when it's appropriate, but as said above, it's those first 3 that are the album to me.
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
[qb] Anyone actually remember when the gap between Dre & DJ Premier was non-existent/real close for G.O.A.T. producer???

Another good point brought up was what's the greatest Wu album ever??? Give opinions (or if you see it as fact, cool)/insight & why . . .
and now it's primo by a mile.. right? right??

my fave wu album is 'liquid swords'. 36 chambers has the higher points, but LS just flows better.

and i agree with relaxer on inspectah deck.

and i gotta go with midnight marauders over 'low end theory' (i used to think LET for a while… but i wisened up)
oh yeah, i still haven't heard 'only built 4 cuban linx'

*ducks*

another one to ponder:

all time favorite beat?

it's a toss up for me between "93 'til infinity" and "survival of the fittest"
Originally posted by Relaxer:
I recently read somewhere that if you are of a certain age, you will never forget the first time you heard Compton.
one of the first CDs I ever owned was "the chronic" … i asked my dad to buy it for me for my 10th birthday right after it came out and he actually did it, what the hell was he thinking?

<img src="http://wizard.ae.krakow.pl/~jasiol1a/images/Dr%20Dre%20-%20The%20Chronic%20-%20CD.jpg" alt=" - " />

that shit completely blew my mind for about two years.
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
The backbone of what Dre did has always been the funk.
yeah but he quickly turned to those high-pitched whiny samples that came to define west coast, sounds worlds away from "express yourself" … i feel like "doggystyle" was when he got back to some rootsier stuff, but i'm just going off the top of my head right now
Originally posted by Relaxer:
I recently read somewhere that if you are of a certain age, you will never forget the first time you heard Compton.
Basketball trip to, of all places, Compton for a tournament. On the bus over there, one guy played the cassette on a boombox. I think we (mostly white kids from the Catholic private school) lost by 40 and I think that cassette had a lot to do with it.

It was that or when we walked in the gym, Lakewood was playing Compton in the game before ours and Lakewood came out of the locker room with their entire crowd chanting "Wood" in a rythm that was equally terrifying.

In our game agsint Artesia, a young Charles O'Bannon threw an alley oop to his brother, Senior Ed O'Bannon that smackie thought he could stop. Ed O'Bannon dunked on me so hard, that I still hear about it from friends. Worse yet, it was the second worst dunk on me in my life, but that's for another time….

So yeah, I remember exactly where I was the first time I heard SOC.
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
and i think this discussion has to be limited to pre-97 albums, no way anything after their hey-dey is "the greatest"
What about Supreme Clientele? If it ain't perfect, it's no worse than real damn close. I could see someone creating an argument for that. But everyone's entries are valid points . . .
sure, it's a great album, but if you're talking about "Greatest Wu-Tang Album Ever", then you really can't go beyond "wu-tang forever" (and probably not even up to that point) … the group is defined by their creative peak of 93-96, and anything afterwards is just gravy

hope that makes some sense
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:

You guys are a bunch of pathetic upper middle class wiggers. Director excepted, of course.
dont you ever, ever, ever call me upper middle class ever again.
Originally posted by le sonick:
while we're on this topic, has anyone heard the new Little Brother disc?


i just bought it yesterday.. great stuff.
I was underwhelmed. I think they're hurting without 9th Wonder there. IMO, he was the star of the group. I'll give it another go around when I got time . . .

Originally posted by Relaxer:

Best Wu song:
Off the top of my head, my vote goes to Fish. That's just off the top of my head. That interlude jump off sets the mood so lovely:

"I control 3 families . . . We operate in all aspects of organized crime . . . "

Originally posted by SalParadise:
Originally posted by Hoya Paranoia:
Respect is collected, so check it
I got techniques drippin out my buttcheeks
Sleep on my stomach so I don't fuck up my sheets
the random funny shit like this (along with his cadence of course) is why he's my favorite.
"I drop unexpectedly like bird shit . . . "

"Nonsense of your conscience in '88/
Sold more powder than Johnson & Johnson/
Tote steel like Bronson, vigi-lan-te/
You wanna get on, son? You need to ask me!/
Ain't no other kings in this rap thing/
They siblings, nothing but maturing/
One shot, they disappearing . . . "

WOW . . . . :D

True story.
Originally posted by SalParadise:
oh yeah, i still haven't heard 'only built 4 cuban linx'

*ducks*

another one to ponder:

all time favorite beat?

it's a toss up for me between "93 'til infinity" and "survival of the fittest"
Wow. Hell of a question. I got a few off the top of my head:

"Code Of The Streets"
"Benjamins" (say what you must, but if that ain't one of the illest beats you've ever heard - you're a fuckin' liar)
"Grindin'"
"Lyrics To Go" (The way they freaked that Minnie Riperton sample is beyond ill)

I'll limit it to that for now . . .


Cause you're hella cool Sal, I'll forgive you for the Cuban Linx-gate issue . . .

*cues up Spanish Boots Made Of Leather on iPod*
Favorite Wu lyric:
I come like a thousand doves (Dirty)


Best Wu cameo on someone else's track:
Raekwon on Outkast's Skew it on the BarB
Originally posted by SalParadise:

all time favorite beat?
"Lyrics of Fury" - Eric B & Rakim

always has been.
Originally posted by le sonick:
Originally posted by SalParadise:

all time favorite beat?
"Lyrics of Fury" - Eric B &amp; Rakim

always has been.
Nice choice.
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
Originally posted by le sonick:
Originally posted by SalParadise:

all time favorite beat?
"Lyrics of Fury" - Eric B &amp; Rakim

always has been.
Nice choice.
its all eric b and Rakim, lol. i dont have much else to offer.

"chinese arithmetic" is really the craziest beat on earth but without words, wasnt sure it should count.
i suppose i should expand….
it's all about The Fresh Prince's "Brand New Funk"
Originally posted by sweetcell:
it's all about The Fresh Prince's "Brand New Funk"
Excellent choice, S Dot. Quintessential example of how to freak a James Brown sample.

"It was *funky* . . . it made me wanna *GET, GET DOWN!*

:D
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
comments like this that have reserved you a permanent residency on the "Buy You a Drank" list. I'll be up top on Halloween &amp; back on 11/11 for Hov @ Hammerstein. I'll make it a point to get up with you &amp; build.
i'm definitely considering going the 11th. i'll keep you posted