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Rhett Miller
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Re: David Bowie @ Patriot Center September 16, 2003 at 09:28 PM UTC #
I don't think Bowie or Gabriel are very popular with the college crowd, and they buy most of the concert tickets.

Maybe he's playing GMU since it's out in the burbs and that's where all his middle aged fans live.
markie
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Re: David Bowie @ Patriot Center September 16, 2003 at 09:30 PM UTC #
Originally posted by jadetree:
would go see Peter Gabriel before Bowie
Why?

I am afraid of Americans.

What has Gabriel done in the last 10 years, what has he ever done, compared to Bowie?
Jaguär
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Re: David Bowie @ Patriot Center September 16, 2003 at 09:33 PM UTC #
Either way, they both have tons of fans across many sectors of music, ages, etc.. But I think the last Gabriel tour was a very serious lesson to the artists and everyone else involved that the public can and will only put up with so much to see their idols. People generally don't like the bigger venues anymore, especially in this area. The tickets were beyond over-priced. Some people will pay it and others won't. Then there are many who just can't pay it even if they are willing. We have lots of other good shows to attend here so it's not like it's the big town event. Just too many things to weigh out and that's not even taking into consideration the economy, convience of tour dates, etc..
markie
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Re: David Bowie @ Patriot Center September 16, 2003 at 09:35 PM UTC #
Plus, Peter Gabriel was 1/3rd of Genesis……1/3rd of shit is still shit.
jadetree
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Re: David Bowie @ Patriot Center September 16, 2003 at 09:38 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Bubba:
Originally posted by jadetree:
would go see Peter Gabriel before Bowie
Why?

I am afraid of Americans.

What has Gabriel done in the last 10 years, what has he ever done, compared to Bowie?
not in the last 10 years, but this album was pretty huge with those paying big bucks for concert tickets

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jadetree
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Re: David Bowie @ Patriot Center September 16, 2003 at 09:39 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Bubba:
Plus, Peter Gabriel was 1/3rd of Genesis……1/3rd of shit is still shit.
You seem to think that this is about the quality of their music, which popularity is never about.
markie
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Re: David Bowie @ Patriot Center September 16, 2003 at 09:42 PM UTC #
Originally posted by jadetree:
Originally posted by Bubba:
Plus, Peter Gabriel was 1/3rd of Genesis……1/3rd of shit is still shit.
You seem to think that this is about the quality of their music, which popularity is never about.
Its hard to have long-term popularity without it though. Hence the monkees had good tunes and people remeber them. New kids on the block and the bay city rollers, er didnt and are forgotten.

Gabriel has one classic album, bowie has several. Plus doesnt that Gabriel album sound terribly 80s now?
jadetree
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Re: David Bowie @ Patriot Center September 16, 2003 at 09:44 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Bubba:
doesnt that Gabriel album sound terribly 80s now?
as you would say

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kosmo
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Re: David Bowie @ Patriot Center September 16, 2003 at 09:50 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Bubba:
Plus, Peter Gabriel was 1/3rd of Genesis……1/3rd of shit is still shit.
actually gabriel was 1/5 of early genesis… which was alot different than latter day pop whores genesis.
SPARX
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Re: David Bowie @ Patriot Center September 16, 2003 at 10:18 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Macy Gray is less annoying than Dandy Warhols.
To each his own Rhett,to each his own.There will be no denying my admiration for the Dandy's craft,even if they are somewhat self indulgent,they do pschedelic stoner dirge as good as the best of em.Macy Gray on the other hand… (yawn)Got to give it to Bowie though,he never fails to expand his fanbase.
MaLo
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Re: David Bowie @ Patriot Center September 16, 2003 at 10:28 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Mobius:
I don't think Bowie could sell-out Patriot Center. I think he should be playing 9:30 Club and Wolf Trap, like Lou Reed.
I agree..

i don't have anything else to say other than i can't wait..i love bowie!

You think it will be GA or assigned seating?
Celeste
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Re: David Bowie @ Patriot Center September 17, 2003 at 12:43 AM UTC #
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Well,actually, she looks like she could have been in bad 70's pron.
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or a good 70s porn!
Seth Hurwitz
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Re: David Bowie @ Patriot Center September 17, 2003 at 12:13 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Bubba:
whoever thinks Bowie couldnt sell out the Patriot center is plain crazy.
crazy man here

the fact is that David Bowie has never done big business except for a few places, DC not being one of them

even in his Let's Dance heyday, he didn't sell the Capital Centre the way he was supposed to. and the Moby tour last year was a disaster.

who knows, maybe everybody will decide to see him this time, but it would be a first.

Peter Gabriel, by the way, did horrendous business at MCI, and even worse when he came back to Nissan.

just because an artist is one of the all-time greats, as either of those two surely are, it doesn't mean they sell tickets.

Fellini movies were not huge commercial successes either. Spiderman, on the other hand…
distance
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Re: David Bowie @ Patriot Center September 17, 2003 at 12:26 PM UTC #
Originally posted by MaLo:

You think it will be GA or assigned seating?
they can make more money by using assigned seating (different prices for different sections), so what reason would they really have to make it general admission?

i would like to see rem, but i couldn't afford to buy the tickets when they first went on sale. if it were general admission, i would be going. since all i can get are not-so-great seats, i can't justify spending nearly $70. i saw rem quite a few years ago (the last show of a tour in atlanta) and it was great. i wouldn't want to remember a sub-par experience more than the better one.

i prefer general admission shows by a lot. this is not coming from someone who is at all a fan of mosh pits. it allows one to stand where they want and move around as they please. not to mention, if you get stuck sitting beside someone screaming "WOOOOO" or yelling out band member names when they look towards her direction (even though she is too far away to be heard) or when you are standing behind some huge drunken guy that decides he wants to dance at his seat by making a swimming motion with his arms, nearly hitting you on the backswing almost every time, you can move away from all of that.

i had front row center tickets for a show earlier this year and i couldn't believe the amount of people attempting to carry on conversations OVER the music when they had seats that close!
poorlulu
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Re: David Bowie @ Patriot Center September 17, 2003 at 01:31 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
crazy man here

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I guess I still come at things from a British perspective. I am pretty sure in the UK Bowie would have no trouble selling out larger venues than the Patriot center even with vast ticket prices.

So what magic have the stones got that enables them to keep playing stadia?
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Re: David Bowie @ Patriot Center September 17, 2003 at 01:46 PM UTC #
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It's gotta be the shoes. It's the shoes, I tell ya!
MaLo
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Re: David Bowie @ Patriot Center September 17, 2003 at 02:00 PM UTC #
Originally posted by poorlulu:
Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
crazy man here

I guess I still come at things from a British perspective. I am pretty sure in the UK Bowie would have no trouble selling out larger venues than the Patriot center even with vast ticket prices.

So what magic have the stones got that enables them to keep playing stadia? [/QB]

i saw bowie in france last september…he sold out two nites in a venue the size of the patriot center
mankie
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Re: David Bowie @ Patriot Center September 17, 2003 at 02:02 PM UTC #
Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
Originally posted by Bubba:
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the fact is that David Bowie has never done big business except for a few places, DC not being one of them

even in his Let's Dance heyday, he didn't sell the Capital Centre the way he was supposed to. and the Moby tour last year was a disaster.

Seth, "Let's Dance heyday" was some of Bowies weakest work.

The fact remains though it's just more proof that yanks have music tastes up their holes. Springboard, Bon Jovi and Van Halen etc. can sell out but genius's like Bowie don't! :roll:

Bowie would sell out more if he toured solo more…when he's with nine inch nails, Moby or any other pile of crap, the Bowie fans…of which there are millions, aren't going to sit through all that shit for 45 minutes of the God.

I've seen Bowie many, many times both in UK and over here and it's a case of camping out for tickets in UK, and even here if the shows weren't sold out there was only a couple of seats left empty.

You will see an older crowd at the Bowie show and I'll be surprised if he doesn't sell out.
Venerable Bede
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Re: David Bowie @ Patriot Center September 17, 2003 at 02:10 PM UTC #
Originally posted by mankie:
I'll be surprised if he doesn't sell out.
i thought he sold out a long time ago? :p
Rhett Miller
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Re: David Bowie @ Patriot Center September 17, 2003 at 02:22 PM UTC #
There is a reason the present begrudges the past," writes Harlan Ellison; I won't pretend to be wise enough to know what that reason is, but I believe that statement to be true, regardless. The evidence is plain in just about anyone beyond a certain age, the all-consuming, epic oldness where a person can say "when I was your age" without a trace of irony. It hits some people as early as twenty or so, when they suddenly find themselves on the downhill side of life, confronted with a bleak realization that things were a whole lot greener back when they were still climbing (or before they knew any better, at least). Some people, they just never stop climbing; it's rare, but it happens.

A great many of David Bowie's fans, with each successive year, slowly but surely creep into the former category even as Bowie himself manages to still act like a card-carrying member of the latter.
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