late night eateries in DC

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the mac and cheese is the reason to go to the diner

in adams morgan there is amsterdam falafael

in georgetown there is quick pita and also bistro francais

El Tamarindo? Lily and I have many blurred memories of that place at about 3 a.m. on Thursday nights.

Originally posted by slowgraffiti:

Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
really, i didn't realize there were people still extolling the virtues of margarine.

Less calories than butter.

is that true? i haven't read a margarine label before, but i'm pretty sure it's just hydrogenated oil. since oil is 100% fat and conventional butter is only 80% then it would have 120 calories per tablespoon. i guess that might not be correct though, there are probably other things… flavor, color.
my understanding was that people used margarine because of cholesterol reasons, rationing during the war, and misinformation. i guess preference is valid too.

according to this page, butter and margarine have the same amount of calories per tablespoon.

according to this page, butter has 2 more calories than margarine, with a serving size of "one pat".

in other words, there appears to be a neglible amount of difference in calories between butter and margarine. well, unless you explicitly purchase low calorie and low fat margarine (once again, the lab is able to chemically modify a product to suit its needs), which reduces the calorie count by half.

Originally posted by lily1:
in adams morgan there is amsterdam falafael

i didn't realize they were open 24 hours! jackpot.

Originally posted by you be betty:

Originally posted by lily1:
in adams morgan there is amsterdam falafael

i didn't realize they were open 24 hours! jackpot.

and by 24 hours i meant in the middle of the night

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
according to this page, butter has 2 more calories than margarine, with a serving size of "one pat".

in other words, there appears to be a neglible amount of difference in calories between butter and margarine.

The road to obesity is paved with 2 calories.

Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
according to this page, butter has 2 more calories than margarine, with a serving size of "one pat".

in other words, there appears to be a neglible amount of difference in calories between butter and margarine.

The road to obesity is paved with 2 calories.

well yes, and margarine generally contains many more trans fats, which ultimately make it worse for you than butter. if you are only using a really really small amount (which is all you should be using), calories shouldn't even be an issue.

but why don't you skip out on both and use something that won't hurt your arteries like preserves?

Originally posted by you be betty:

but why don't you skip out on both and use something that won't hurt your arteries like preserves?

Interesting idea – can you find information on the calories in preserves vs. margarine?

Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:

Originally posted by you be betty:

but why don't you skip out on both and use something that won't hurt your arteries like preserves?

Interesting idea – can you find information on the calories in preserves vs. margarine?

average is about 56 calories per tablespoon, which about half the amount from butter and margarine, per tablespoon. . of course, you're looking at an increase in sugar.

maybe i just don't understand the obsession with calories.

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:

Originally posted by Julian, gay agenda ILLUMINATI:

Originally posted by you be betty:

but why don't you skip out on both and use something that won't hurt your arteries like preserves?

Interesting idea – can you find information on the calories in preserves vs. margarine?

average is about 56 calories per tablespoon, which about half the amount from butter and margarine, per tablespoon. . of course, you're looking at an increase in sugar.

maybe i just don't understand the obsession with calories.

Aside from the whole calorie thing, jam is just better for you. As the daughter of a father who consumes a lot of margarine and had a heart attack a couple of years ago, I just prefer to avoid the stuff all together. When I am looking to spread something on toast/whatever, I just don't even think of it as an option. There are so many other delicious and healthy things that you can spread on shit out there (jam, farmer cheese, organic peanut butter), so why should I put pure fat on my toast? I don't know..I've never been a fan.

Originally posted by you be betty:
Aside from the whole calorie thing, jam is just better for you. As the daughter of a father who consumes a lot of margarine and had a heart attack a couple of years ago, I just prefer to avoid the stuff all together. When I am looking to spread something on toast/whatever, I just don't even think of it as an option. There are so many other delicious and healthy things that you can spread on shit out there (jam, farmer cheese, organic peanut butter), so why should I put pure fat on my toast? I don't know..I've never been a fan.

that's fine, i'm not really taking issue with that, i mean i eat toast plain because i don't like the straight taste of butter (can't do without it in baking and in other cooking though, it is indispensible chemically).

i'm more interested in the so-called health benefits, because that seems to me to viewing eating in a negative light. i've probably read too much michael pollan (and watched too much alton brown and anthony bourdain), which is why i simply do not understand why someone would choose margarine over butter (and the whole, if you can't pronounce an ingredient, you probably shouldn't eat it).

I didn't realize people at these late night joints were so calorie conscious. I eat like a fiend once the drinking is done. I do admit I'll often skip breakfast and lunch the next day as penance.

Stop with the health talk! Who the hell really cares at 3am after you've been out drinking and full of booze? You're looking for something to soak up the booze and fill your belly. Usually, the best things are greasy and full of fats. Deal with it for ONE night. Unless you're a professional drunk and out every night of the week, then I'd suggest Jammin's idea and skip a few meals the next day lol

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only reason to use margarine is if you need something spreadable. other than that, i like to use real butter. and i love alton brown and good eats

Originally posted by Cali:
only reason to use margarine is if you need something spreadable. other than that, i like to use real butter. and i love alton brown and good eats

alton brown used margarine instead of butter in the yellow cake episode… it might have even been butter flavored shortening. he had his reasons, but i still haven't forgiven him for that one.

really? now i'll look around for that ep to see why he'd do that.

Originally posted by slowgraffiti:

Originally posted by Cali:
only reason to use margarine is if you need something spreadable. other than that, i like to use real butter. and i love alton brown and good eats

alton brown used margarine instead of butter in the yellow cake episode… it might have even been butter flavored shortening. he had his reasons, but i still haven't forgiven him for that one.

actually, it looks like he uses shortening instead of margarine. there are probably heat-related reasons for using shortening over butter in this instance (and since it appears the episode is about interpreting an old recipe, shortening was probably used as butter replacement during butter shortages). but i'd rather make a mayonnaise cake than a shortening cake.

i think it was because the water content in butter is too high. and then he said that he thought that the shortening tasted more like butter than butter!

oh okay, i understand the shortening.

not so sure about a mayo cake, but i'd try it.