You gotta be KIDDING moments

Originally posted by Bags:
Even if notification is on the internet (of note, all the OC kids got letters in the mail, so they could dramatically carry them to their rooms/throw them away/stash them in a drawer), it wouldn't all be on the same day. Berkeley notifies the same day as Brown? Doubt it.

Every generation of kids thinks "it's harder now than it's ever been." Trust me, we all thought that in 1985.

And I also was looking at 20 or so schools that a lot of kids look at, with low acceptance rates relatively. You know what, I think I would have been happy anywhere I went. But you can't tell that to a 17 year old, I understand that…

But, that said, there are literally hundreds of amazing schools that will nourish your intellect and surround you with amazing people. Oberlin, Davison, Hobart, Dickinson, Skidmore, Reed, Union, Kenyon, Trinity, Colby…

Betty, you're obviously talking studio art rather than history or art or art theory? They've got studio art at I think every school my friends went to (Vassar, UNC, U of Fla, Colgate, Emory, Clemson).

I am doing studio art (with my specialty being in figurework). Photography in my spare time, too. HOWEVER - I want to go into fashion design. There is no fashion class at whitman either, so I'm also doing our extracurricular "fashion society" in my spare time. I just designed and made 11 full outfits, from scratch, for a show.
I've wanted to go into the fashion industry ever since I was in fifth grade sketching dresses at recess. My grandma was a relatively successful dress designer back in the day, too. It's just one of those things that I've known I want to do. I used to do a lot of the singing and musicals, too, but I backed away from that in the last couple of years because I've felt that I held slightly more talent in the fashion department. So I'm just singing and playing shit now in my spare time. Anyway.
The PROBLEM is that, 90% of the schools out there that have great programs have nada about fashion design or merchandising. And, most of the schools with fashion courses available are the real hardcore art ones: Pratt, Parsons, FIT, RISD, FIDM, etc. etc.

My parents want me to get a general college education before I do fashion, so I have a college degree. They tell me that a degree from an art school will land me nothing but art-related jobs. They also know that I have the grades and background and capability to go to law or business or med school, if I really wanted to. They want me to have something to fall back on if I fail in the fashion industry, or change my mind. Perfectly understandable.
BUT, they also say that it wouldn't be such a bad idea to go to a traditional university, and do the Pratt or Parsons or whatever thing for grad school. But you know what? I'm not getting any younger. I know that I want to do this, and I have the determination, talent, perspective, and balls to become a great fashion designer. And I'm not afraid to say that. So, why not do both? I'd like to do both. As of now, the only schools I am aware of with partnership programs are Brown, Duke (which we just found out about about a week ago), and Wash U. Brown was the first one I found out about with the partnership with RISD…and RISD is one of the best places to go for a great fashion education. So that's my story. I wish it were as simple as just finding a school with studio art.

Originally posted by Chaz, Lover of all Beings:

Originally posted by you be betty:

How would I afford to pay for my own college?

Grants and loans and scholarships……loads of people do it. And you're right it certainly isn't the worst thing in the world, as long as you don't mind feeling like a caged up little robot, to use your own words. Not trying to give you a hard time, I'm sure it's not easy.

Just don't say you don't have a choice….that's the one thing we all have.

You gotta be kidding me moment: I'm at college for a month - parents call "Honey, we decided you are paying for school."
I think, "Damn, I should've gone to NOVA."
I paid for it. (Albeit, working over breaks and paying bills into my 20s…it's paid for though. :) )
Note: fashion/art are the most expensive majors!

That's right. They don't call 'em starving artists for nothing. Tubes of paint are already about $8 a pop.

Originally posted by Bags:
Even if notification is on the internet (of note, all the OC kids got letters in the mail, so they could dramatically carry them to their rooms/throw them away/stash them in a drawer), it wouldn't all be on the same day. Berkeley notifies the same day as Brown? Doubt it.

December 15th, that's generally the magic day.

Believe me, I'm counting down to it.

Oy, college. I just want to get in and go.

On another note on the same topic. . What did you all feel was aspect of your college experience that had the most impact on your overall final impression of it?

Originally posted by Graace:

On another note on the same topic. . What did you all feel was aspect of your college experience that had the most impact on your overall final impression of it?

i don't know if this is the answer you are looking for, but. . looking back, i am amazed at how fondly i think of the town that my college is located. obviously, that's simply because of the good times i have associated with living in that town, the people i met, and the friends i made. the most enjoyable parts of my college experience were going to bars with friends, driving to austin for concerts, and driving around the texas country-side, just wandering around.

academically. . .well, that's a bit harder to say. i found a great desire in learning about medieval history, and have tried to continue my interest in it ever since. i made friends with people that were interested in many different things, and wanted to learn, mainly because we were all liberal arts majors. as such we had a great disdain of business majors (except for econ. majors, at least they were thinking, we reasoned).

there is also alot of personal growth that i experienced while in college- first taste of freedom (mine was tempered because i went to religious university), being resonsible for your own actions, and so forth. i mean, you are paying the college to learn, so if you aren't going to classes, then you are wasting your money. the funny thing about it. . you don't realize how much you've grown until you've left (be it personal, spiritual/religious, world perspective, et al.).

however, what i most wish i could say is that i remember the drinking. . alas, i cannot remember most of those nights.

For what it's worth, I only applied to one university (not quite Ivy, but real close), and I graduated in the top 1% of my high school class with a near perfect GPA. I had no doubt I would be accepted really, so I wasn't worried. However, I applied via their Early Decision program. If I didn't get accepted via Early Decision, there would still have been time to apply elsewhere. Not that there really were any other schools on my radar. Anyway, if Brown is your first choice by a wide margin, you might want to consider Early Decision, assuming Brown has something like that. The best part about Early Decision is that you find out in December and the stress is gone (if you've been accepted, of course). Meanwhile, all your peers are still stressing out until like March or whenever colleges normally send out their acceptance letters.

Not that anyone cares, but something like 80% of my tuition was paid by a combination of performance-based (i.e., scholarship grants) and need-based financial aid. I paid about 15% in student loans (which took me like 4 years to pay off). My parents paid about 5%. If you have rich parents though, I guess you can forget about any need-based financial aid…

Brown differed everyone (at least from my school) that applied early decision this year.

Originally posted by you be betty:
Brown differed everyone (at least from my school) that applied early decision this year.

who did they differ you from? people that could spell deferred? sorry couldn't resist :D

Originally posted by Graace:
On another note on the same topic. . What did you all feel was aspect of your college experience that had the most impact on your overall final impression of it?

1. Music scene
2. Female scene
3. Drug scene

i'm a little thankful that my college application process was so abnormal because i missed out on most of the stress.
at the begining of the year i thought i wanted to go to reed, but my dad's been pushing this one school on me since i was seven and made me do a weekend visit there. i liked it so much i started my application essays the day i came back. i wasn't sure that i'd get in because i have really awful grades and i was a junior to boot but i guess they didn't mind because a little less than two weeks after all the stuff was in i got my letter. i guess most of my experience was a result of the school, it's super small and i guess they don't get many applicants because i think the acceptance rate is 67% or something.

Originally posted by slowgraffiti:
i'm a little thankful that my college application process was so abnormal because i missed out on most of the stress.
at the begining of the year i thought i wanted to go to reed, but my dad's been pushing this one school on me since i was seven and made me do a weekend visit there. i liked it so much i started my application essays the day i came back. i wasn't sure that i'd get in because i have really awful grades and i was a junior to boot but i guess they didn't mind because a little less than two weeks after all the stuff was in i got my letter. i guess most of my experience was a result of the school, it's super small and i guess they don't get many applicants because i think the acceptance rate is 67% or something.

What's the school?

st. john's

Originally posted by Graace:
On another note on the same topic. . What did you all feel was aspect of your college experience that had the most impact on your overall final impression of it?

jesuits are great teachers

that said, the law school application process is just as bad, if not worse, than what you're describing with undergrad these days … all the focus on one shitty assessment exam, one arbitrary ranking system, and the "prestige" of the school (and how that all snowballs into actual employment) is just sick

Originally posted by slowgraffiti:
st. john's

hissssss

Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:

Originally posted by slowgraffiti:
st. john's

hissssss

aww, what's wrong with it?

Originally posted by slowgraffiti:
aww, what's wrong with it?

their basketball program … welcome to the big east

oh, i always forget there's another one… i'm going to the one in annapolis http://www.sjca.edu/asp/home.aspx

Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:

Originally posted by Graace:
On another note on the same topic. . What did you all feel was aspect of your college experience that had the most impact on your overall final impression of it?

jesuits are great teachers

that said, the law school application process is just as bad, if not worse, than what you're describing with undergrad these days … all the focus on one shitty assessment exam, one arbitrary ranking system, and the "prestige" of the school (and how that all snowballs into actual employment) is just sick

I've got a few Jesuit education associations as clients….very cool and nice people. Though I must admit, never being religious it was strange for me being around all those priests at first!

Originally posted by Graace:
On another note on the same topic. . What did you all feel was aspect of your college experience that had the most impact on your overall final impression of it?

This question is trippy. (Practice those essay Q&A's. :) )

Originally posted by pdx pollard:

Originally posted by you be betty:
Brown differed everyone (at least from my school) that applied early decision this year.

who did they differ you from? people that could spell deferred? sorry couldn't resist :D

I KNEW it had an e!