HoyaSaxa03
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Re: Hunter Thompson ends his fear and loathing
February 25, 2005 at 04:51 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Miss MaRpIe:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
and a suicidal man in particular, than i do
Have you never thought of assisted suicides? Kevorkian? Voluntary euthenasia? Logans Run?
You dont think much.
Originally posted by Bags:
Sorry, I think off-ing yourself via carbon monoxide poisoning in the garage or by taking pills in bed while the family's away is not as monstrous. I understand that the end result is the same, but making them witness/hear the event exhibits some sort of aggression or need for drama at the expense of how deeply you scar your family…
JESUS. i hate the internet sometimes.
you and bags don't understand what i'm saying.
of course it was a monstrous act. of course there are other options. of course some people who commit suicide are more thoughtful.
but many who commit suicide are either not functioning well enough to plan it out for least emotional harm to the loved ones or just don't give a fuck.
i was not surprised at all to find that HST's suicide fell into the latter category rather than the former.
markie
Joined: October 15, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: Hunter Thompson ends his fear and loathing
February 25, 2005 at 04:56 PM UTC
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
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but many who commit suicide are either not functioning well enough to plan it out for least emotional harm to the loved ones or just don't give a fuck.
He was obviously functioning well and obviously did give a fuck. Who is more likely to be right, you or GGW?
HoyaSaxa03
Joined: March 22, 2004 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: Hunter Thompson ends his fear and loathing
February 25, 2005 at 04:59 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Miss MaRpIe:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
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but many who commit suicide are either not functioning well enough to plan it out for least emotional harm to the loved ones or just don't give a fuck.
He was obviously functioning well and obviously did give a fuck. Who is more likely to be right, you or GGW?
thanks for your deep insights into a suicidal man's psyche … looks like you got this case all wrapped up!
godsshoeshine
Joined: September 18, 2003 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: Hunter Thompson ends his fear and loathing
February 25, 2005 at 05:03 PM UTC
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he was an old man in ill health with a wife that knew he didn't have much time left when they got married. not sure how much responsibility he had there
markie
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Re: Hunter Thompson ends his fear and loathing
February 25, 2005 at 05:03 PM UTC
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
thanks for your deep insights into a suicidal man's psyche … looks like you got this case all wrapped up!
The fallacy of the excluded middle. Nice arguing Hoya!
HoyaSaxa03
Joined: March 22, 2004 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: Hunter Thompson ends his fear and loathing
February 25, 2005 at 05:07 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Miss MaRpIe:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
thanks for your deep insights into a suicidal man's psyche … looks like you got this case all wrapped up!
The fallacy of the excluded middle. Nice arguing Hoya!
For all non-logic-freaks,
an explanation of Marple's deft rhetorical parry …
pistols at dawn!
markie
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Re: Hunter Thompson ends his fear and loathing
February 25, 2005 at 05:21 PM UTC
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
pistols at dawn!
Or, "Safari canâ??t open the page â??
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Law_of_excluded_middleâ? because it could not connect to the server â??en.wikipedia.orgâ?."
Just because I do not have the answers, it does not mean you do.
HoyaSaxa03
Joined: March 22, 2004 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: Hunter Thompson ends his fear and loathing
February 25, 2005 at 05:27 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Miss MaRpIe:
Just because I do not have the answers, it does not mean you do.
true that, marple, true that … what were we talking about again?
markie
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Re: Hunter Thompson ends his fear and loathing
February 25, 2005 at 05:33 PM UTC
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Oh yeah, I remember.
I think that Hunter wanted to be like Hemmingway. Did you know he commited suicide with a gun to the head, too?
Rhett Miller
Joined: November 15, 2001 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: Hunter Thompson ends his fear and loathing
February 25, 2005 at 06:03 PM UTC
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I don't think mid-60's qualifies a man as "old", at leat not in this country.
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
he was an old man in ill health with a wife that knew he didn't have much time left when they got married. not sure how much responsibility he had there
Rhett Miller
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Re: Hunter Thompson ends his fear and loathing
February 25, 2005 at 06:53 PM UTC
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Thanks for clarifying that. It's comforting to know that the entertainment industry are the people who define what old age is.
Originally posted by j_lee:
Originally posted by Sam Pulsize:
I don't think mid-60's qualifies a man as "old", at leat not in this country.
If he was entitled to get the senior discount on movie tickets, then yes, that qualifies him as old.
godsshoeshine
Joined: September 18, 2003 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: Hunter Thompson ends his fear and loathing
February 25, 2005 at 07:22 PM UTC
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you are as old as you feel, and if you've seen a picture of the man recently, he looked like he was 80
ratioci nation
Joined: November 22, 2002 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: Hunter Thompson ends his fear and loathing
February 25, 2005 at 07:52 PM UTC
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Originally posted by j_lee:
Did you also miss the part where it said he had a grandkid (or kids)?
thats a pretty weak argument
my dad is 65 and a grandad and I dont consider him to be old yet
my brother is also kind of a granddad and he is 32, but that is a long story that I wont get into here
ggw
Joined: December 16, 2001 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: Hunter Thompson ends his fear and loathing
February 25, 2005 at 07:53 PM UTC
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One is eligible for AARP membership at 50.
Given Thompson's lifestyle, his body was probably a lot older than his years would suggest. Reportedly, he needed help getting around lately. Like, getting from his desk to the bathroom.
The last year had been a difficult one for Thompson. A broken leg had kept him from getting out as often as he had in years past.
"Medically speaking, he's had an awful year," said Mike Cleverly, a neighbor and longtime friend of Thompson's. "He's the last person in the world I would have expected to kill himself. I would have been less surprised if he had shot me."
Gabrielle Rafelson, who lives in Aspen with her film director husband Bob Rafelson, said Thompson had struggled with back and hip pain over the past year.
Thompson, a close friend of her husband's, had developed a "dramatic limp" and wasn't recovering as quickly as he wanted, she said.
"That probably had something to do with it," she said, referring to his suicide.
http://www.aspendailynews.com/Search_Articles/view_article.cfm?orderNumber=10046
ratioci nation
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Re: Hunter Thompson ends his fear and loathing
February 25, 2005 at 07:58 PM UTC
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its the American Association of Retired Persons not the American Association of Old People
ggw
Joined: December 16, 2001 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: Hunter Thompson ends his fear and loathing
February 25, 2005 at 08:00 PM UTC
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Lets be honest, AARP is the old people's lobby.
Originally posted by ratioci nation:
its the American Association of Retired Persons not the American Association of Old People
Re: Hunter Thompson ends his fear and loathing
February 25, 2005 at 08:02 PM UTC
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He's dead.
You don't get any older than that.