Originally posted by bnyced0:Don't bite.
Excuse me? WTF?
Smashing Pumpkins Debut At Number 2 On Billboard
Originally posted by callat703:More important than the figures, are the facts, and he's just wrong. The only pumpkin album that's done better than Zeitgeist in it's first week is MCIS which debuted No. 1 in 1995, the 145K sold last week ties the previously 2nd best opening week by a SP album which was Adore in 1998. I swore I'd stay away from Pumpkin threads for awhile but you guys just keep sucking me in, geezus.
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:Before you make stupid points like this, compare record sales across the industry between 2006 and 2000, when Machina was released.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1565010/20070718/t_i_.jhtml
144,800 copies sold. 30,000 behind the #1. If only there had been a special Wal-Mart edition with an unreleased bonus track, a special Hot Topic edition with an unreleased bonus track and a special Amazon edition with an unreleased bonus track they may have been able to top T.I.
Heck, Interpol sold 73,200 to come in at #4.
You know what puts things into perspective? The following:
"in fact, Zeitgeist is the Pumpkins' worst performer, sales-wise, since 1993's Siamese Dream, which opened at #10 with 71,900 copies sold."
Yes, that's right. "Machina/The Machines of God" sold more than "Zeitgeist" did in it's first week of release.
Brian
Figures won't be accurate for 2007 until the end of the year.
Originally posted by RustyOrgan:You're a fuckin' waste of sperm.
I think T.I. and all that other rap / hip hop should go back to Africa. There haven't been any good rap releases since Tupac!
Plus you obviously don't get laid. What's your purpose here????
Watch your mouth . . . . Now please go on with your otherwise meaningless life & keep your off-brand comments to yourself.
And on top of that, hip-hop originated in The Bronx. You worthless cuntmuscle . . .
I don't like rap at all but the racist expression REALLY is not the way to make your point.
Originally posted by bnyced0:Now why would MTV lie about that? Either you're wrong or MTV's wrong.
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:More important than the figures, are the facts, and he's just wrong. The only pumpkin album that's done better than Zeitgeist in it's first week is MCIS which debuted No. 1 in 1995, the 145K sold last week ties the previously 2nd best opening week by a SP album which was Adore in 1998.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1565010/20070718/t_i_.jhtml
144,800 copies sold.
"in fact, Zeitgeist is the Pumpkins' worst performer, sales-wise, since 1993's Siamese Dream, which opened at #10 with 71,900 copies sold."
Brian
Brian
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:Ummm, I'd put your money on me, MTV hasn't been relevant or "right" since Martha Quinn….is it still a lie if you're too stupid to know the truth?
Originally posted by bnyced0:Now why would MTV lie about that? Either you're wrong or MTV's wrong.
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:More important than the figures, are the facts, and he's just wrong. The only pumpkin album that's done better than Zeitgeist in it's first week is MCIS which debuted No. 1 in 1995, the 145K sold last week ties the previously 2nd best opening week by a SP album which was Adore in 1998.
Brian
Brian
I'm not going to rehash the methodology, or get into a pissing contest over this but if you want to reassure yourself you can check out the RIAA databases and Billboard archives if you have access and free time on your hands, I'm sure an intern at MTV did a half assed job of it but what could you expect?
Originally posted by TheDirector217:The days of internet provocation are long gone. Don't bite when someone posts something out of their own boredom that is clearly provocative.
What's your purpose here????
Originally posted by vansmack:I feel you & all, but there's certain things I just will NOT let slide. For lack of a more elequent phrasing, I simply don't play that shit.
Originally posted by TheDirector217:The days of internet provocation are long gone. Don't bite when someone posts something out of their own boredom that is clearly provocative.
What's your purpose here????
Originally posted by TheDirector217:Here's the thing - if he's serious, you're not going to change his mind, even after 1000 posts on a message board. If it's a provocation, which on this board it is 99.9% of the time when it comes to race, you're simply getting yourself riled up over nothing.
I feel you & all, but there's certain things I just will NOT let slide. For lack of a more elequent phrasing, I simply don't play that shit.
You're better off taking the "Go Away" approach. And with any luck they'll either stop, or just go away.
Originally posted by vansmack:I could only wish. But you're, as the hipsters say, spot on. ;)
Here's the thing - if it's true, you're not going to change his mind, even after 1000 posts on a message board. If it's a provocation, which on this board it is 99.9% of the time when it comes to race, you're simply getting yourself riled up over nothing.
You're better off taking the "Go Away" approach. And with any luck they'll either stop, or just go away.
I've let it go. Thanks for letting me vent on your leather couch. Do you bill by the post or by the hour? :p
Originally posted by TheDirector217:First, I don't know when "spot on" became a hipster thing - the English have been saying it for years. You can't watch a football match without a commentator saying "the ref was spot on with that call"….but I digress.
But you're, as the hipsters say, spot on.
….
Do you bill by the post or by the hour? :p
And that piece of advice is on the house. I hope others in what someone, I think it was nkotb, called the "Freshman Class" of the board listen as well. It's great having you all here and I really enjoy a lot of what you have to offer, and in time you'll do a better job of understanding when someone's taking the piss out of you because they're bored (or are simply trolling) and not take them seriously.
Originally posted by vansmack:hey! that's british too
taking the piss out of you because
Originally posted by vansmack:
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
But you're, as the hipsters say, spot on.
….
Do you bill by the post or by the hour? ;)
Originally posted by god's shoeshine:No. That one's hipster.
Originally posted by vansmack:hey! that's british too
taking the piss out of you because
You have to wait until a new surge of people start posting. Seems like once a year or so we get a new group on here. Don't rush it though; you're in good company!
Originally posted by TheDirector217:
P.S. I've been here about a year now. Am I gonna get promoted to sophomore class or what? ;)
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:Regardless of this fact, compare the overall industry statistics between 2006 and 2000:
Originally posted by bnyced0:Now why would MTV lie about that? Either you're wrong or MTV's wrong.
Originally posted by Brian Wallace:More important than the figures, are the facts, and he's just wrong. The only pumpkin album that's done better than Zeitgeist in it's first week is MCIS which debuted No. 1 in 1995, the 145K sold last week ties the previously 2nd best opening week by a SP album which was Adore in 1998.
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1565010/20070718/t_i_.jhtml
144,800 copies sold.
"in fact, Zeitgeist is the Pumpkins' worst performer, sales-wise, since 1993's Siamese Dream, which opened at #10 with 71,900 copies sold."
Brian
Brian
Best selling record of 2006:
Soundtrack, "High School Musical" - 3,719,071 units sold
Tenth best selling record of 2000:
Destiny's Child, "Writing's On The Wall" - 3,802,165 units sold
So I wouldn't say that comparing sales in the era of the record industry's most significant decline is at all worth doing.
And if you're curious? The best selling record of 2000 was 'NSYNC with "No Strings Attached," with 9,936,104 units sold.
Originally posted by TheDirector217:it's ok… i think i'm like kid sister status.
P.S. I've been here about a year now. Am I gonna get promoted to sophomore class or what? ;)
"there's a guy yelling 'drum solo' and another yelling 'i love you jimmy.' where's the guy yelling 'i love you jimmy?' oh come on, where are you, nothing's bad 'gonna happen to you. oh, there you are . . . jimmy says if you shut the fuck up, he'll give you twenty dollars." - a quote from bill onstage at a cd live zwan show in chicago i just got. nice.
Originally posted by miss pretentious:From some of the posts I've seen from hot blooded boardies, I would beg to differ. More like cyber eye candy. Yeah. That's it.
Originally posted by TheDirector217:it's ok… i think i'm like kid sister status.
P.S. I've been here about a year now. Am I gonna get promoted to sophomore class or what? ;)
Originally posted by miss pretentious:I would consider you an applicant, but head of the applicant pool as you seem to be handling the initiation process in stride…
it's ok… i think i'm like kid sister status.
Of course this happens with a lot of the females on the board, then they simply drop out.