Originally posted by bags:thanks Baggy,
So I just went to tourvote.
so I still think its a good idea.
so I still think its a good idea.
new feature on the blackcat site
so I still think its a good idea.
Seems the people want Jewel and the Mighy Wind.
I'll bet the 9:30 Club raked in a fortune the past two days, what with the three $40 Mighty Wind shows (two sold out) and a sold out $40 Jewel show…four $40 shows in two nights.
Look at the Billboard charts…that's what the people want.
I'll bet the 9:30 Club raked in a fortune the past two days, what with the three $40 Mighty Wind shows (two sold out) and a sold out $40 Jewel show…four $40 shows in two nights.
Look at the Billboard charts…that's what the people want.
Originally posted by Bubba:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:not in as many words, "give the people what they want would be equally appropriate".
Hasn't Seth said that any number of times?
tourvote is "good" idea for the blackcat or the velvet lounge especially for regional acts trying to playing at those venues. it's still up for street teamer abuse. the data collect for the 9:30 site would be less useful i.e. 10 votes for The High Strung verses 5,000 votes for Good Charlotte. Most booking agents go direct to the club anyways already knowing their acts are going to succeed there.
Interestingly, I could not sell even one out of four extra tickets to the Sunday night 'late' show of A Mighty Wind. It was really weird. Once that insanely long line, which went on forever, was in the club, there was not a soul on the street or in front of the club. I wasn't the only one who didn't get rid of extra tickets.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
Seems the people want Jewel and the Mighy Wind.
I'll bet the 9:30 Club raked in a fortune the past two days, what with the three $40 Mighty Wind shows (two sold out) and a sold out $40 Jewel show…four $40 shows in two nights.
Look at the Billboard charts…that's what the people want.
Originally posted by Bubba:
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:not in as many words, "give the people what they want would be equally appropriate".
Hasn't Seth said that any number of times?
And I'm all for it!! It's how the Club can sustain itself and still be able to book bands with loyal but small followings, like Idlewild or The Juliana Theory recently.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:[/QB]
Seems the people want Jewel and the Mighy Wind.
I'll bet the 9:30 Club raked in a fortune the past two days, what with the three $40 Mighty Wind shows (two sold out) and a sold out $40 Jewel show…four $40 shows in two nights.
But that's my question, Kosmo. Do the votes from the Black Cat site go only to the Black Cat management, as kind of "black cat votes"? I didn't think so on my first (but pretty thorough) read of the website. It sounds like the votes go to various venues in that area around your zip code, which is how you vote (though it is noticed that you've voted through the B.C. website).
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
tourvote is "good" idea for the blackcat or the velvet lounge especially for regional acts trying to playing at those venues. it's still up for street teamer abuse. the data collect for the 9:30 site would be less useful i.e. 10 votes for The High Strung verses 5,000 votes for Good Charlotte. Most booking agents go direct to the club anyways already knowing their acts are going to succeed there.
Originally posted by bags:nor do I, the votes must get sorted by Zip code……
But that's my question, Kosmo. Do the votes from the Black Cat site go only to the Black Cat management, as kind of "black cat votes"? I didn't think
I wonder who pays for the service? Clubs, or the record industry?
Just because an act is popular in the billboard chart does not mean a lot of people will want to see it live and vice-versa.
Voting for bands you want to see strikes me as not unlike radio "request" shows… you know, the type of show where callers usually request something in heavy rotation anyway, so by providing the "request" line it makes these people think they actually had a say in getting that song played. It's not empowerment, it's illusory empowerment.
looking for internet porn?
looking for internet porn?
Originally posted by bags:how did you wind up with 4 extra tickets?
Interestingly, I could not sell even one out of four extra tickets to the Sunday night 'late' show of A Mighty Wind.
First, as a matter of full disclosure, I'm one of the principals in the company that runs TourVote. I don't want to abuse the hospitality of the 9:30 by plugging what we do, but I would like to respond to a couple of issues raised in this thread. (Moderator, please let me know if this is a problem for you.)
Bags asks, "But that's my question, Kosmo. Do the votes from the Black Cat site go only to the Black Cat management, as kind of "black cat votes"?"
Answer: Only the BC (or any other partner) gets to see which votes came through their own site. Other venue partners get to see how many potential customers (if any) in nearby zip codes say they want to see a given band play live, but not where those people cast their votes. Artists, music publications, etc., see other appropriate slices of aggregated, anonymized data. NOBODY except us EVER gets to see the e-mail addresses we require for vote validation.
Dr. Doom wonders whether the "empowerment" is illusory.
Answer: We certainly hope not. The idea is not after-the-fact endorsement of what the music business already does. It really is for the fans to to tell the business what they want. If enough fans do that, we believe that the business will listen and begin to act accordingly. Out of self interest and because, all cynicism aside, most of the people in it really do care about delivering shows that get fans excited.
Bags asks, "But that's my question, Kosmo. Do the votes from the Black Cat site go only to the Black Cat management, as kind of "black cat votes"?"
Answer: Only the BC (or any other partner) gets to see which votes came through their own site. Other venue partners get to see how many potential customers (if any) in nearby zip codes say they want to see a given band play live, but not where those people cast their votes. Artists, music publications, etc., see other appropriate slices of aggregated, anonymized data. NOBODY except us EVER gets to see the e-mail addresses we require for vote validation.
Dr. Doom wonders whether the "empowerment" is illusory.
Answer: We certainly hope not. The idea is not after-the-fact endorsement of what the music business already does. It really is for the fans to to tell the business what they want. If enough fans do that, we believe that the business will listen and begin to act accordingly. Out of self interest and because, all cynicism aside, most of the people in it really do care about delivering shows that get fans excited.
I literally had three friends cancel on Sunday; two were hungover, one is an attorney and got called in to work. I wouldn't have gone alone, but since I couldn't sell the ticket…..
FYI, I have *no* problem going to shows alone, but it was sold out. I did go, though; it was great.
FYI, I have *no* problem going to shows alone, but it was sold out. I did go, though; it was great.
Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
Originally posted by bags:how did you wind up with 4 extra tickets?
Interestingly, I could not sell even one out of four extra tickets to the Sunday night 'late' show of A Mighty Wind.
Liberte, your answers were really helpful. So who is involved? (You may not be able to say, but that is the lingering question).
And has it been useful? – I see that it's been around for a while.
And has it been useful? – I see that it's been around for a while.
Liberte, thanks for taking the time to come on here and address these questions. That's unusual and refreshing.
Thank you kind sir Yadda Yadda Yadda Yadda
I think it's great as well, we had a Tickets.com rep hanging around these parts at one point. The more music industry insider adding input to the board is a good thing imho.
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:Really, those fuckers have balls showing their faces in public!
I think it's great as well, we had a Tickets.com rep hanging around these parts at one point.
Thanks all for your indulgence and encouragement. Glad you found it useful.
Bags, I'll try to get back tonight or over the weekend to answer your question and any others that come up. Way too much to do right this minute for a small group of people taking on a big challenge (which may be a partial answer right there).
Bags, I'll try to get back tonight or over the weekend to answer your question and any others that come up. Way too much to do right this minute for a small group of people taking on a big challenge (which may be a partial answer right there).
Originally posted by Liberte:I have a question? How did you find out about us talking about you? Was it via some sort of internet search, or what?
answer your question and any others that come up
Spy!
Originally posted by Edsall Park:Yes, that is exactly what I had thought all along.
Spy!
Great minds think alike. :D