when did REM get so shit?

Originally posted by bags:
I'd still have Peter Buck as my husband, though. :D

Even after this? :p

R.E.M. guitarist Peter Buck appeared in a London court on Monday (4/23), where he was charged with several criminal offenses, including assaulting an aircrew and being drunk on an aircraft, according to published reports. On Saturday (4/21), Buck was arrested at London's Heathrow Airport after allegedly causing a disturbance while in transit from Seattle to London on a British Airways flight.

Buck was charged with being drunk on an aircraft, disobeying an aircraft commander, two counts of assault on aircrew, threatening behavior and criminal damage, the latter of which allegedly occurred when Buck upended a service cart containing serving dishes.

Oh definitely, even after that. I saw them at Radio City in 1988 (or 89, I can never remember, I just know it was senior year), and Peter Buck blew me away. He has SO MUCH FUN, and jumped around and crouched down to play and obviously loved the music so much. It wasn't for show or to put on a good set, but he just loved the music. Plus, he's always been out there helping new bands get their music and names out. I decided then and there I'd love to have him for a husband.

And, he was much the same this morning on Today, still digging the music. [He did have his mandolin period in there where he seemed to get quite dour, but I think the band was going through some growing pains.]

Plus, then Mike Mills would be my psuedo Brother-in-Law!

Love Peter Buck, love him. :cool:

Only other I love as much (or more?) is Dave Grohl, and for much the same attitude.

Did Dave ever go apeshit on a transatlantic flight and take a dump on the beverage cart, too?

Nope, but he's young yet.

By the way, Buck did not take a dump on the service cart. That was some unknown business man. Buck just 'upended' the service cart. Very different deal!

Originally posted by bags:
Nope, but he's young yet.

….and married.

I bet Grohl is a good laugh to go out on the piss with. He just looks like he enjoys life to the fullest.

Oh, I know he's married.

And he looks *so* fun to go out with. I agree 100%.

Originally posted by bags:
Nope, but he's young yet.

By the way, Buck did not take a dump on the service cart. That was some unknown business man. Buck just 'upended' the service cart. Very different deal!

Actually the shit he put on the service cart was a couple of REM albums! ;)

Bags, I don't know why, but until now I assumed you were a dood. In fact, in our modern times, you may still be a dood, so I suppose I shouldn't assume any differently. Although if you're a dood you'd have more of a shot with Michael Stipe.

Though we have not met in person yet, I have seen Bags and can attest that she is all woman. ;)

And Dave Grohl isn't all that young anymore. He's just one of those who knows how to sip from the fountain of youth.

Originally posted by Doctor Doom:
Although if you're a dood you'd have more of a shot with Michael Stipe.

Not without thumb-wrestling Morrissey for him.

Yeah, I'm a chick. Bags is a family nickname – derived from my "real life" surname… ;)

REM has gone through so many incarnations.

Version 1, the best, lasted through Fables. Mumbly lush jangles. Document and Life's Rich Pageant was Version 2. A nice bridge to the poppier sound they had with Green and Out of Time

Monster was an abomination. A truly horrible album. Automatic was also a one-off style but is as good as Monster is bad.

Adventures in Hi Fi started version 6 and is completely underrated. Up and Reveal are fantastic albums in their own right. But it's stupid to compare them to Murmur or Chronic Town. Are you the same people you were in 1982?

related to another topic, i blame the decline on courtney love… or perhaps that damned vixen crush with eyeliner.

REM are not shit quite yet.

GREAT show last night. They played for over two hours, until almost midnight. Lots of hits and older tunes that sounded amazingly good in the Patriot Center. Stipe has really embraced the "frontman" role - lots of crowd interaction and dancing around like crazy.

He even mentioned the 9:30, saying they played there in 1982 and never got paid what they were promised. ;)

Here's the set list from last night if anyone's interested:

Finest Worksong
Begin the Begin
Exhuming McCarthy
Drive
Animal
Fall on Me
Daysleeper
Bad Day
The One I Love (electric)
Rockville
Orange Crush
World Leader Pretend
I Believe
Losing My Religion
Sweetness Follows/Find the River medley
She Just Wants to Be
Walk Unafraid
Man on the Moon

Life and How to Live It
Nightswimming
Final Straw
Imitation of Life
Permanent Vacation
ITEOTWAWKI

Patriot Center remains a terrible place to see a concert, but the concert was pretty good. I liked them better the last time I saw them though (1995).

I thought it was interesting that they're out promoting a 1991-2003 greatest hits album, but so many of the songs came from '86-'89. Don't Go Back to Rockville and Exhuming McCarthy sounded great.

Great REM show. They really seem to like each other and to enjoy playing together. Not taking themselves very seriously. They are, no doubt, the best REM cover band that there is.

Originally posted by eros:

He even mentioned the 9:30, saying they played there in 1982 and never got paid what they were promised. ;)

I was at that show,they were actually rather good then.As for these days,I think the Tibetan concert was the last time I'll ever see those guys,way too self absorbed theses days.Not even mentioning the songs have gone downhill.Well,i guess I did mention it huh?