Rhett Miller
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Inside Straight Edge
April 09, 2008 at 05:46 PM UTC
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Some of you may find this interesting. Certainly more interesting than reading a Radiohead thread.
http://www.thedailyswarm.com/headlines/national-geographics-inside-straight-edge-thurston-moore/
Relaxer
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Re: Inside Straight Edge
April 09, 2008 at 05:50 PM UTC
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I think I read in the Post that this airs on the Nat Geo channel tonight.
saintangelsin
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Re: Inside Straight Edge
April 09, 2008 at 06:01 PM UTC
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This whole thing is pretty humorous though. Sure there's violence somewhere in the subculture. But doesn't that go for all subcultures though?
I just find it funny how the media still trying to show being edge as a bad thing. I also find it humorous that Thurston Moore did the narration for this. Isn't he friends with Ian Mackaye? Besides, we all know that "straight edge" by Minor threat was a song, it wasn't intended to start a movement.
beetsnotbeats
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Re: Inside Straight Edge
April 09, 2008 at 06:01 PM UTC
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It's interesting that Moore is involved. Hopefully, it's a sign that the reporting will be fairly balanced, unlike the corporate media that marginalize the entire movement by focusing only on the negative fringe. Liberal media my ass.
nkotb
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Re: Inside Straight Edge
April 09, 2008 at 06:03 PM UTC
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These kids need a fucking drink or a blunt. Lighten up, guys!
miss pretentious
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Re: Inside Straight Edge
April 09, 2008 at 06:08 PM UTC
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Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
It's interesting that Moore is involved. Hopefully, it's a sign that the reporting will be fairly balanced, unlike the corporate media that marginalize the entire movement by focusing only on the negative fringe. Liberal media my ass.
hilarious.
you be betty
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Re: Inside Straight Edge
April 09, 2008 at 06:11 PM UTC
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Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
It's interesting that Moore is involved. Hopefully, it's a sign that the reporting will be fairly balanced, unlike the corporate media that marginalize the entire movement by focusing only on the negative fringe. Liberal media my ass.
my thoughts exactly.
i saw some clips online though earlier, it looks pretty decent. thurston would definitely not lend his voice to something that painted an unjustly negative picture of the movement.
RustyOrgan
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Re: Inside Straight Edge
April 09, 2008 at 06:49 PM UTC
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People forget how fucking YOUNG Ian and his buddies were! No wonder he's since distanced himself from it.
kcjones119
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Re: Inside Straight Edge
April 11, 2008 at 12:45 PM UTC
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Did anyone else watch this?
A lot of Thurston's narration had a Middle School "D.A.R.E." film strip tone to it and it seems to me that essentially this exact story was running on network news about 10 years ago. I guess I was surprised that it had such a "here's what your kids are up to" feeling when I figured it was an old story.
sonickteam2
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Re: Inside Straight Edge
April 11, 2008 at 12:56 PM UTC
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i dont see whats so bad about drugs.
i mean, i think many people on here didnt do ENOUGH experimenting with drugs when they were younger…..charlie and brian wallace especially.
ggw
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Re: Inside Straight Edge
April 11, 2008 at 02:28 PM UTC
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Was Julian in this film? He says he's straight edge. And vegan. Does that make him "straight-vedge"?
miss pretentious
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Re: Inside Straight Edge
April 11, 2008 at 02:36 PM UTC
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Was Julian in this film? He says he's straight edge. And vegan. Does that make him "straight-vedge"?
I thought Jules was just veggie .. not vegan.
nkotb
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Re: Inside Straight Edge
April 11, 2008 at 02:39 PM UTC
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He doesn't need booze or drugs to get his kicks. He's fine watching Sex and the City, wearing girl's jeans and scalping tickets to this favorite band's shows.
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Was Julian in this film? He says he's straight edge. And vegan. Does that make him "straight-vedge"?
you be betty
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Re: Inside Straight Edge
April 11, 2008 at 07:28 PM UTC
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I have about 15 minutes left of this on my tivo, and I already had a lot of issues with it.
As I had suspected before it even aired, they spent the entire time (aside from, oh, the first maybe five minutes) talking about edge gangs in Nevada and Utah. I understand that it is a documentary and it is television and they are going to focus on interesting things, but I felt the way they portrayed edge completely trivialized the whole thing. They didn't even make mention of Minor Threat until, like, 20 minutes unto the thing. Didn't talk about DC.
Instead, they focused on some jerkbag who stole from drug dealers and then beat the shit out of them. And they talked about that murder, and about some guy who broke up an alcoholic's beer bottle and then carved an X into some guy's back…I mean really, really violent stuff. I totally understand that it's out there, but the majority of people who are edge are not anything like that…the violence almost contradicts the whole purpose of abstaining from drugs and alcohol in the first place, you know? To spend almost an entire hour talking about all of that just really bugged me. And you would think Thurston wouldn't be up for that, either…
sonickteam2
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Re: Inside Straight Edge
April 11, 2008 at 07:44 PM UTC
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i knew there was a reason i'd never been to Utah.
HoyaSaxa03
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Re: Inside Straight Edge
April 11, 2008 at 10:11 PM UTC
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nothing new here…
<img src="
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i'm writing a paper on the history of the American temperance movement, some pretty interesting stuff
flawd101
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Re: Inside Straight Edge
April 13, 2008 at 11:32 AM UTC
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straight edge = gaytarded
skeeter
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Re: Inside Straight Edge
April 13, 2008 at 03:33 PM UTC
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We've missed you flawd. :)
Doctor Doom
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Re: Inside Straight Edge
April 13, 2008 at 04:29 PM UTC
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It just shows the sheep-like nature of people that a song penned by a bunch of teenagers reacting to conditions of their time, and an idea with some good elements to it, was turned into a "movement."