Sell outs...

all this better than ezra talk reminded me of one of my favorite norm mac-donald lines from weekend update:

(paraphrasing)

"this week, better than ezra holds the top spot on the billboard charts … in second place: ezra."

ahh, the mid-90s, how i miss ye
Gotta love Norm. My other favorite line:

"This Wednesday Jews celebrate Yom Kippur. Or as the rest of us know it as: Wednesday."
Both very funny….LOL
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
I don't think most people ponder whether the music they are listening to is "challenging". Most people want music that sounds good to them and entertains them. Which, unless you're a complete music junkie, seems sufficient to me.

Bands that sell out show in NYC do so because there are like 10 million people in NYC, compared to a much smaller population in DC.
Wow, i was going to make these exact two points. As Rhett. Same points!

I'm a music junkie, but I love the music I love….just because it sounds good go me and I love it. I love Tegan and Sara, I think Bright Eyes sucks. Can't get in to Luna at all, but I think Snow Patrol is resplendent. I like stuff that gets indie cred, and I like stuff that gets mocked. It's really quite visceral, and because I love music so much, I've become quite aware at how music inspires a reaction – there's not usually that much brain involved.

Do I understand why so many people love OAR or Something Corporate? No. Same way I don't understand why the Replacements weren't as big as the rollling stones.

Ditto, also, to the point on Manhattan. There are 10 times as many people there (probably twice as many if you compare NYC to DC metro, which is probably an apt comparison…though a lot of folks are densely packed nearer the venues, etc). Shouldn't be unusual they sell out far more often and faster than DC shows.

NYC: 8 million (city only), 22 million (metropolitan area as defined by US census 2000)

L.A.: 3.7 million (city only), 9.5 million (metro area)

D.C.: 575K (city only), 3.9 million (metro area)
Originally posted by Bags:
Wow, i was going to make these exact two points. As Rhett. Same points!
even a stopped clock is right twice a day. :D
Yeah, this may be a little off subject to a degree, but i remember my favorite show being Calla/Cooper Temple Clause at 9:30 in March, aside from the great sets and my general interest in them, from what i remember the show was barely half full if that. I dunno, i just dont enjoy being in a sold out show as much, but im guessing most people feel the same way. Then again…
speaking of sell-outs…

Arcade Fire? Being all the rage, will this one sell-out? Has HFS begun playing them?
I'm kind of worried about that too. If I can't get to the box office this weekend, I'm ordering mine from Tickets.com.
people are we forgetting, when you say the "current sellouts" at 9:30 represents the "DC music scene" that dc really doesn't have a representative music scene. if anything really, anything goes.

not to mention when people go to 9:30 i don't think any concert has been more than fifty percent washingtonians. you're forgetting md and va are there, and i've seen people as far as from europe come to shows here. diversity in music really soars around here.

really to say otherwise is looking at one side of a huge polygon. :cool:
Originally posted by niro:
when you say the "current sellouts" at 9:30 represents the "DC music scene" that dc really doesn't have a representative music scene.
Spoken like someone who doesn't have a clue. There are more than a few bands that are not from the DC area who cite DC-based bands as influences on their sound. Try to do a bit of research before you generalize…or, as you put it, "looking at one side of a huge polygon."
Originally posted by niro:
people are we forgetting, when you say the "current sellouts" at 9:30 represents the "DC music scene" that dc really doesn't have a representative music scene. if anything really, anything goes.

not to mention when people go to 9:30 i don't think any concert has been more than fifty percent washingtonians. you're forgetting md and va are there, and i've seen people as far as from europe come to shows here. diversity in music really soars around here.

really to say otherwise is looking at one side of a huge polygon. :cool:
this is sarcastic, right?

DC is well known for having one of the most monolithic and stifling music scenes in the country. If Ian MacKaye doesn't like you, you're SOL.
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
Originally posted by niro:
people are we forgetting, when you say the "current sellouts" at 9:30 represents the "DC music scene" that dc really doesn't have a representative music scene. if anything really, anything goes.

not to mention when people go to 9:30 i don't think any concert has been more than fifty percent washingtonians. you're forgetting md and va are there, and i've seen people as far as from europe come to shows here. diversity in music really soars around here.

really to say otherwise is looking at one side of a huge polygon. :cool:
this is sarcastic, right?

DC is well known for having one of the most monolithic and stifling music scenes in the country. If Ian MacKaye doesn't like you, you're SOL.
Ian came to the most recent BigYawn show, I hope that means he likes us.
Don't forget that Wilco sold out too. It's no suprise that OAR and BTE sold out. Look at all the crap they play on the radio that people suck right up without question.
Gavin DeGraw caught me by surprise. 2 shows sold out? Who is this guy?
the title of this thread should be "sellouts sell out." ;)
Ian came to the most recent BigYawn show, I hope that means he likes us.
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for the sake of you and your family, i sure fucking hope so.
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
If Ian MacKaye doesn't like you, you're SOL.
I think you're referencing the scene in 1994…it's 2004.
Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
If Ian MacKaye doesn't like you, you're SOL.
I think you're referencing the scene in 1994…it's 2004.
point well taken, and i'm sure it was hyperbole even then … but i was just amazed that this guy with hubris to spare thought that DC has no discernable scene.

if you ask anyone who knows anything about music in this country what they think of when you say "DC music scene" and they either say hardcore or fugazi. pretty simple.
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
Originally posted by Bags:
Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
If Ian MacKaye doesn't like you, you're SOL.
I think you're referencing the scene in 1994…it's 2004.
point well taken, and i'm sure it was hyperbole even then … but i was just amazed that this guy with hubris to spare thought that DC has no discernable scene.

if you ask anyone who knows anything about music in this country what they think of when you say "DC music scene" and they either say hardcore or fugazi. pretty simple.
or go-go, if they're not totally narrow-minded and whitebread.
Challenge yourself by listening to some bluegrass. I don't hear that played much on corporate radio. Or is bluegrass "safe"?
no bluegrass is my hidden treasure. i would say a good portion of bluegrass is safe if not most.