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Caught the last ten of "Subterranean" on MTV2 last night. Despite the fact that I want to throw bricks through my television everytime I see Jim Sheridan, overall decent music. I wonder, though, why the show has been relegated to a single hour? It just makes me long for the days of 120 minutes, which in addition to supplying me with two hours of obscure music also had better hosts for the most part.

Did any of you ever tape those? Specifically, there was an episode where Thurston Moore hosted, and his musical selection was just phenomenal.

even worse, they tend to play the same songs for a couple weeks straight … if you only have 1 hour of indie programming in a 168 hour week, why play the same songs over and over?!?!

plus, the staff assembling the show seems to be intern-heavy, they often screw up the video info before/after songs and sometimes accidentally play the same song twice in a night

sheridan also blows, but that's why tivo is so fucking great, just fast forward through him and the crap songs to get to the good stuff.

also, you can get all these videos online now (unlike in the 120mins days), but i think part of the fun is seeing these semi-obscure bands on the tube for all (who have premium cable/satellite) to see.

Originally posted by j_lee:
Caught the last ten of "Subterranean" on MTV2 last night. Despite the fact that I want to throw bricks through my television everytime I see Jim Sheridan, overall decent music. I wonder, though, why the show has been relegated to a single hour? It just makes me long for the days of 120 minutes, which in addition to supplying me with two hours of obscure music also had better hosts for the most part.

Did any of you ever tape those? Specifically, there was an episode where Thurston Moore hosted, and his musical selection was just phenomenal.

Originally posted by j_lee:
Caught the last ten of "Subterranean" on MTV2 last night. Despite the fact that I want to throw bricks through my television everytime I see Jim Sheridan, overall decent music. I wonder, though, why the show has been relegated to a single hour? It just makes me long for the days of 120 minutes, which in addition to supplying me with two hours of obscure music also had better hosts for the most part.

Did any of you ever tape those? Specifically, there was an episode where Thurston Moore hosted, and his musical selection was just phenomenal.

I might still have that one. I do have when the Butthole Surfers hosted…

I have at least three shows taped…the one when the Afghan Whigs hosted in 1998-ish, the show devoted to REM circa Up and the one devoted to Nothing records (during my "I heart Trent" period).

I see that flaming lips+the shins are on austin city limits this weekend: ch 22 sun 1:30-2:30am

Subterranean Best of 2004
You've stayed up late all year to watch groundbreaking videos premiere on Subterranean, now take a look back on 2004 and vote for your favorite. Then tune into the premiere of Subterranean Best of 2004 on Sunday December 26th at midnight ET, only on MTV2.

Subterranean
Mon, Dec 13 @ 2:00 AM
Sun, Dec 19 @ 12:00 AM
Mon, Dec 20 @ 2:00 AM

The guest host is:
Le Tigre

Recent Guests
Ted Leo
Dogs Die in Hot Cars
Razorlight

http://www.mtv.com/onair/mtv2/subterranean/

Originally posted by j_lee:
Caught the last ten of "Subterranean" on MTV2 last night. Despite the fact that I want to throw bricks through my television everytime I see Jim Sheridan, overall decent music. I wonder, though, why the show has been relegated to a single hour? It just makes me long for the days of 120 minutes, which in addition to supplying me with two hours of obscure music also had better hosts for the most part.

They cut it down to an hour because of low ratings.

Btw, MTV still produces 120 Minutes (as well as Alternative Nation)… but it's only available on MTVEurope channels.

geez, i probably have around 10 tapes worth of 120 minutes at my house. .ranging from 1992-1993 and 95-97. . .i had them all catalogued at one point. . .

these include dave kendall as host, lewis largent and matt pinfield. . .as well as several music hosts. ugh. . .i hated lewis largent. i remember an episode where pavement was on, and they were out supporting crooked rain, crooked rain, and malkmus just layed into largent for his stupid questions. it was funny.

Originally posted by Member 656:
They cut it down to an hour because of low ratings.
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Go figure.

Originally posted by j_lee:
It just makes me long for the days of 120 minutes, which in addition to supplying me with two hours of obscure music also had better hosts for the most part.

I also miss IRS's The Cutting Edge, the MTV show that pre-dated 120'. Pete Zaremba of The Fleshtones hosted.

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120 minutes - Teenage Fanclub, good song.

I don't wanna be alone

I don't wanna be well known

I don't wanna be unsane

I don't wanna love in vain

I don't wanna need a change

I don't wanna be arranged

I don't wanna be amazed

I just wanna see your

face again

Be my friend


I don't wanna another drink

I don't wanna have to think

I don't wanna stay the same

I don't wanna another name

I don't wanna be defamed

I don't wanna be acclaimed

I don't wanna be amazed

I just wanna see your

face again

Be my friend

Originally posted by Member 656:
They cut it down to an hour because of low ratings.

Lower than what's on now from 1:00 - 2:00 a.m. Sunday night??

Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
I also miss IRS's The Cutting Edge, the MTV show that pre-dated 120'. Pete Zaremba of The Fleshtones hosted.

I would kill for those tapes. I had a bunch of them taped for a while, but over time they've disappeared. Those were SO fun. God bless Zaremba….

I emailed MTV2 about cutting Subterranean to an hour – it's nuts. Whaddya gonna do.

i'm old enough to know. the end.

i like watching "the alternative" on vh-1 classics.

i feel like i'm back in the days of high school bleach jobs, and still being able to skateboard at Freedom Plaza.

So, let us dig through our tapes and see what we have. I have a best of IRS cutting edge with such classics as Run DMC rapping live off the back of a truck driving through LA (I think that is where) and the Minutemen. It was a brilliant show.

Originally posted by Sir HC:
So, let us dig through our tapes and see what we have. I have a best of IRS cutting edge with such classics as Run DMC rapping live off the back of a truck driving through LA (I think that is where) and the Minutemen. It was a brilliant show.

Wasn't that show or some other vintage mtv show hosted by the singer of the fleshtones? Or am I totally tripping here?

*duh* just read the post just a few above this one. Shut up, me! Now move along folks, nothing to see here.

Originally posted by chaz:

Originally posted by Sir HC:
So, let us dig through our tapes and see what we have. I have a best of IRS cutting edge with such classics as Run DMC rapping live off the back of a truck driving through LA (I think that is where) and the Minutemen. It was a brilliant show.

Wasn't that show or some other vintage mtv show hosted by the singer of the fleshtones? Or am I totally tripping here?

*duh* just read the post just a few above this one. Shut up, me! Now move along folks, nothing to see here.

Yep, is both. Peter Z was great as a host.

Also have some classic Night Flight bits from USA network. That show ruled!

Originally posted by Bags:

Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
I also miss IRS's The Cutting Edge, the MTV show that pre-dated 120'. Pete Zaremba of The Fleshtones hosted.

I would kill for those tapes. I had a bunch of them taped for a while, but over time they've disappeared. Those were SO fun. God bless Zaremba….

I emailed MTV2 about cutting Subterranean to an hour – it's nuts. Whaddya gonna do.

Ya know, they're putting everything that was ever on TV on DVD these days (how many of you have been snagging the King of Queens sets? :roll: ). MTV's sitting on a goldmine, and not just with the Cutting Edge stuff. Of course, the song licensing might hike the price a little but the real classic stuff could be licensed for a lot less than your typical TRL hits.

Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
Ya know, they're putting everything that was ever on TV on DVD these days (how many of you have been snagging the King of Queens sets? :roll: ). MTV's sitting on a goldmine, and not just with the Cutting Edge stuff. Of course, the song licensing might hike the price a little but the real classic stuff could be licensed for a lot less than your typical TRL hits.

Just after posting this I realized that IRS Records probably owns the Cutting Edge stuff. But that doesn't mean it can't be DVD'ed. C'mon Miles!

The sad thing is that MTV had that fire in either the late 80s or early 90s that burned up a lot of their archival stuff. A lot has been lost to the ages because of that.