Bonnaroo Roll Call

PJ was scheduled to play 10:15 to 12:15 which for them is a short set to start with and they were at one point the headliner that day…

What I'm confused about is what was the schedule like before Kayne wanted to be moved from 8:45 to 2:15, seeing as Jack Johnson had to be it in there as well.
Jack Johnson was to play on the mainstage (what stage), and Kanye was supposed to play on the smaller stage (Which stage) at the same time.
I originally thought Kanye switched so he wouldnt have to play the side stage and have to compete with JJ.
Originally posted by Relaxer:


And, from what I've read, he and his crew didn't exactly hustle to get his spaceship set up
I would like to know where you read that. and was Kanye really helping set up the stage?

I have never thrown a festival but it seems from working at venues, the artists have about as much to do with setting up the show day of as the fans do.

so wheres this article that talks of lolly-gagging roadies?
Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
Originally posted by Relaxer:


And, from what I've read, he and his crew didn't exactly hustle to get his spaceship set up
I would like to know where you read that. and was Kanye really helping set up the stage?

I have never thrown a festival but it seems from working at venues, the artists have about as much to do with setting up the show day of as the fans do.

so wheres this article that talks of lolly-gagging roadies?
go buy and watch "flaming lips - ufos at the zoo" and you'll see what a real band does to be involved with setting up the stage show. i'm sure kanye watched it, seeing how he now has a spaceship on stage.
Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
Originally posted by killsaly:
And he shouldnt have been there anyway. How many people came there for Kanye? Probably none.
At least you acknowledged the real reason he's being shit on for this. If this had been the other way around, do you think Kanye would be getting railed for going an hour over?
Exactly. I only went to wait for nis show due to my friends being interested in the show. When we sat down to wait at 2:45, there was hardly anyone there. I made the comment to my friends that Kanye was going to be pissed because of how few people were in attendance. I then fell asleep waiting, and when my friend woke me up at 3:30 to leave, there was even less people.
I'm willing to bet it's all because some 24 hour news network was down there, or picked up some local tv's footage, then looped all day long a couple people pissed off he went on late and the image of kanye sucks written on the porta potties. now he's blaming everyone but himself because his image got tainted again.
In my opinion, any stage show requiring that much time to set up should not be booked for a festival.

And Kanye becomes more of a conceited douche everyday.

Ive gradually come to the conclusion that alot of really good musiciains are assholes more often than not. For example Prince, Dylan, Beck if what the Flaming Lips say about him is true. But its never affected how I view their music. However, I can't listen to Kanye much anymore. And his "typed in all caps" blogs piss me off to no end. As does that random and awkward referwence to the fact that he owns a macbook.
Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
Originally posted by Relaxer:


And, from what I've read, he and his crew didn't exactly hustle to get his spaceship set up
I would like to know where you read that. and was Kanye really helping set up the stage?

I have never thrown a festival but it seems from working at venues, the artists have about as much to do with setting up the show day of as the fans do.

so wheres this article that talks of lolly-gagging roadies?
Sorry Literate Roadie, you're correct, Kanye himself was probably not out there humping crates with the rest of the true American roadie heroes. The point was gleaned from multiple accounts, from individuals' blog postings to news accounts of PJ ending at 1:15 am and Kanye starting at 4:30 am, and I pretty much assed out that 3+ hours was an unreasonable delay, especially at a festival. I didn't intend to malign your roadie brethren, you roadie you.
Originally posted by Relaxer:
Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
Originally posted by Relaxer:


And, from what I've read, he and his crew didn't exactly hustle to get his spaceship set up
I would like to know where you read that. and was Kanye really helping set up the stage?

I have never thrown a festival but it seems from working at venues, the artists have about as much to do with setting up the show day of as the fans do.

so wheres this article that talks of lolly-gagging roadies?
Sorry Literate Roadie, you're correct, Kanye himself was probably not out there humping crates with the rest of the true American roadie heroes. The point was gleaned from multiple accounts, from individuals' blog postings to news accounts of PJ ending at 1:15 am and Kanye starting at 4:30 am, and I pretty much assed out that 3+ hours was an unreasonable delay, especially at a festival. I didn't intend to malign your roadie brethren, you roadie you.
I am not a roadie. my point was that I have been to tons of shows and never been like "look at those roadies, they sure are taking their time putting that stage together" I mean, i was there and it wasnt like they were shooting dice, smoking cigarettes up there in between sets.

PJ went on late + Kanye is an asshole = its Kanye's fault the whole thing got messed up.

Thing I dont get is if there was so few people waiting for him to play and no one cared about seeing him, why is there such a big deal?

He went on late and no one cared right?

Its amazing to me how terribly offbase news stories really are. It makes it sound like 80,000 people were calling for Kanye's head. When in reality there was about 8,000 people at that stage, and i'd say about 500 were pissed that he was late.
Just read the blog all the way through. thought this was funny:
WE'D SEND THEM OUR SPECS THEN THEY THEY'D SAY OK… THEN THEY WOULD SEND SPECS BACK THAT DIDN'T FIT THE STAGE. WE WERE OBVIOUSLY DEALING WITH FUCKING IDIOTS WHO DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO REALLY PUT ON THIS SHOW PROPERLY
If they didnt have the capacity, how did they pull off a four day, 150 + artist event, with only his issue being the big one? doesnt sound like bonnaroo was to blame, seems like a KanyeWorld issue.
And:
SOMETIMES I GO 2, 3 DAYS W/O SLEEP WORKING ON MY PERFORMANCE… I HAVE TO ICE MY KNEES AFTER EVERY SHOW AND THEY HURT WHEN I WALK THROUGH THE AIRPORT…
What a cry baby…. Some artists work on their "performances" a lot longer than that, and dont go complaining about it in their blogs.
god, if he only had one more "e" in his name, then kanyee would be an anagram for yankee, and everyone knows how much they (the people and the team) sucks.

<now i hide under rocks>
I guess this has made the choice between Kanye and NIN at Lollapalooza a little easier.
Originally posted by eros:
I guess this has made the choice between Kanye and NIN at Lollapalooza a little easier.
Yes.
You can see both. NIN during their actual set time, then Kanye hours later.

Didn't Seth say in a Washngton Post interview that Kanye would be playing right after Dylan on the same stage? If so, I would LOVE to see Dylan bust out an absolute marathon set just to piss Kanye off.
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
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Well, I was registering for the forum, and the first couple names I thought of weren't available, so i got frustrated and semi-mashed the keyboard.

But thanks
Kanye West blog about Bonnaroo :)

"NEVER SAY I DIDN'T GIVE MY ALL! NEVER SAY I DIDN'T GIVE MY ALL! THIS SHOWS NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY TO BE GOOD AT SOMETHING THERE WILL BE PEOPLE THERE TO LIE ABOUT YOU AND BRING YOU DOWN! LIKE WAYNE SAYS PLEASE DON'T SHOOT ME DOWN CAUSE I'M FLYING! I'M HURT BY THIS ONE. ALL I CARE ABOUT ARE THE FANS. JUST SAY THIS OUT LOUD IN A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE, "KANYE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT GIVING A GOOD PERFORMANCE." CAN ANYONE HONESTLY SAY THAT ????????? HAS ANYONE EVEN TAKEN THE TIME TO AT LEAST DO THE MATH??? BONNAROO SHOULD HAVE RELEASED A STATEMENT IN MY DEFENSE BUT SINCE THEY HAVEN'T LET'S BREAK DOWN THE WALLS ON THIS TRUMAN SHOW AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT REALLY OCCURRED!!! FOR OVER A MONTH WE WENT BACK AND FORTH ON WETHER OR NOT WE COULD EVEN FIT MY STAGE AT THE FESTIVAL. ONE DAY THEY WOULD SAY YES… WE'D SEND THEM OUR SPECS THEN THEY THEY'D SAY OK… THEN THEY WOULD SEND SPECS BACK THAT DIDN'T FIT THE STAGE. WE WERE OBVIOUSLY DEALING WITH IDIOTS WHO DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO REALLY PUT ON THIS SHOW PROPERLY. THEY TRIED 2 GIVE ME A TIME SLOT WERE IT WAS STILL LIGHT OUTSIDE … I HAVE A LIGHT SHOW, IT'S NOT CALLED GLOW IN THE DARK FOR NO REASON SQUID BRAINS! MY PEOPLE WORKED OUT A COMPROMISED STAGE PLOT AND A 3AM TIME SLOT AND I AGREED. FAST FOWARD TO THE DAY OF THE SHOW. MY PRODUCTION MANAGER TRIED TO LOAD IN FOR 24 HOURS BEFORE I WENT ON STAGE BUT THE FESTIVAL WOULDN'T ALLOW US TO DO ANYTHING UNTILL PEARL JAM LEFT THE STAGE. PEARL JAM ENDED ONE HOUR LATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AT THAT POINT WE'RE RACING AGAINST THE SUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AT 4:20AM DON COMES BACK 2 THE BUS AND TELLS ME, "IT WOULD TAKE 45 MORE MINUTES TO PUT ALL YOUR PYRO IN!" I SAY I HAVE TO GET OUT THERE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I STEPPED ON THE FRONT PART OF MY STAGE AND THERE WAS SO MUCH LIQUID ON THE STAGE I COULDN'T MOVE WITHOUT SLIPPING. I HAD TO ADJUST MY WHOLE PERFORMANCE STYLE BECAUSE OF IT. A FEW MORE SONGS IN AND THE SONG WAS ON IT'S WAY UP.. I CUT A FEW SONGS FROM THE SET BECAUSE I WANTED PEOPLE 2 EXPERIENCE STRONGER WHILE THERE WAS STILL SOME DARKNESS TO PERFORM IT IN. I'VE STRUGGLED WITH STRONGER FROM IT'S CONCEPTION. REMEMBER LAST SUMMER WHEN I CANCELED SOME TV APPEARANCES. IT WAS BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO PERFORM STRONGER IN THE DAYTIME. ANYONE WHO CAME TO THE GLOW TOUR CAN UNDERSTAND WHY I WANTED PEOPLE TO SEE IT PROPERLY. IT BROKE MY HEART THAT I COULDN'T GIVE THESE FANS STRONGER IN IT'S GREATEST FORM… BY THE TIME I GOT TO STRONGER IT WAS DAYTIME AND IT BROKE MY HEART. I'M SORRY TO EVERYONE THAT I DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY 2 GIVE THE PERFORMANCE I WANTED TO. I'M SORRY… SOMETIMES I GO 2, 3 DAYS W/O SLEEP WORKING ON MY PERFORMANCE… I HAVE TO ICE MY KNEES AFTER EVERY SHOW AND THEY HURT WHEN I WALK THROUGH THE AIRPORT… HAVING AN EXPENSIVE STAGE CUTS MY PAYDAY IN HALF… CALL ME WHAT YOU WANT BUT NEVER SAY I DIDN'T GIVE MY ALL!!!
IMPENETRABLE WALL OF TEXT
what he said does make sense in places and parts. but he could have said it all in the same amount of space as this post, and a lot more eloquently.

did he actually call people "squid brains??" that explains everything about kanye west.
I don't think anyone questioned his effort. I just don't think his brand of self-important douchebaggery connected in the right way with the Bonnaroo crowd. If he couldn't work out logistics for his 'glow in the dark' shit, he should have played a more back to basics set or bailed. I don't think that many people (i.e. anyone) would have been like 'damn i went all the way to bonnaroo to see kanye rip off daft punk at 3 am and then he just played a regular set. what a waste.'