kosmo
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Re: Bonnaroo Roll Call
June 26, 2008 at 02:25 PM UTC
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PJ was scheduled to play 10:15 to 12:15 which for them is a short set to start with and they were at one point the headliner that day…
What I'm confused about is what was the schedule like before Kayne wanted to be moved from 8:45 to 2:15, seeing as Jack Johnson had to be it in there as well.
killsaly
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Re: Bonnaroo Roll Call
June 26, 2008 at 02:38 PM UTC
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Jack Johnson was to play on the mainstage (what stage), and Kanye was supposed to play on the smaller stage (Which stage) at the same time.
I originally thought Kanye switched so he wouldnt have to play the side stage and have to compete with JJ.
kosmo
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Re: Bonnaroo Roll Call
June 26, 2008 at 03:55 PM UTC
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I'm willing to bet it's all because some 24 hour news network was down there, or picked up some local tv's footage, then looped all day long a couple people pissed off he went on late and the image of kanye sucks written on the porta potties. now he's blaming everyone but himself because his image got tainted again.
gaaaaaaaaah
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Re: Bonnaroo Roll Call
June 26, 2008 at 04:00 PM UTC
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In my opinion, any stage show requiring that much time to set up should not be booked for a festival.
And Kanye becomes more of a conceited douche everyday.
Ive gradually come to the conclusion that alot of really good musiciains are assholes more often than not. For example Prince, Dylan, Beck if what the Flaming Lips say about him is true. But its never affected how I view their music. However, I can't listen to Kanye much anymore. And his "typed in all caps" blogs piss me off to no end. As does that random and awkward referwence to the fact that he owns a macbook.
Relaxer
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Re: Bonnaroo Roll Call
June 26, 2008 at 04:04 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Erinaceous Sonickus:
Originally posted by Relaxer:
And, from what I've read, he and his crew didn't exactly hustle to get his spaceship set up
I would like to know where you read that. and was Kanye really helping set up the stage?
I have never thrown a festival but it seems from working at venues, the artists have about as much to do with setting up the show day of as the fans do.
so wheres this article that talks of lolly-gagging roadies?
Sorry Literate Roadie, you're correct, Kanye himself was probably not out there humping crates with the rest of the true American roadie heroes. The point was gleaned from multiple accounts, from individuals' blog postings to news accounts of PJ ending at 1:15 am and Kanye starting at 4:30 am, and I pretty much assed out that 3+ hours was an unreasonable delay, especially at a festival. I didn't intend to malign your roadie brethren, you roadie you.
walkonby
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Re: Bonnaroo Roll Call
June 26, 2008 at 07:47 PM UTC
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god, if he only had one more "e" in his name, then kanyee would be an anagram for yankee, and everyone knows how much they (the people and the team) sucks.
<now i hide under rocks>
eros
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Re: Bonnaroo Roll Call
June 26, 2008 at 08:03 PM UTC
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I guess this has made the choice between Kanye and NIN at Lollapalooza a little easier.
gaaaaaaaaah
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Re: Bonnaroo Roll Call
June 26, 2008 at 08:28 PM UTC
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Originally posted by eros:
I guess this has made the choice between Kanye and NIN at Lollapalooza a little easier.
Yes.
You can see both. NIN during their actual set time, then Kanye hours later.
Didn't Seth say in a Washngton Post interview that Kanye would be playing right after Dylan on the same stage? If so, I would LOVE to see Dylan bust out an absolute marathon set just to piss Kanye off.
Relaxer
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Re: Bonnaroo Roll Call
June 26, 2008 at 08:40 PM UTC
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[meta]
I think gaaaaaaaaah has the best user name, or "handle", on the forum.
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gaaaaaaaaah
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Re: Bonnaroo Roll Call
June 26, 2008 at 08:54 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Relaxer:
[meta]
I think gaaaaaaaaah has the best user name, or "handle", on the forum.
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Well, I was registering for the forum, and the first couple names I thought of weren't available, so i got frustrated and semi-mashed the keyboard.
But thanks
brokensocscene
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Re: Bonnaroo Roll Call
June 28, 2008 at 09:09 PM UTC
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Kanye West blog about Bonnaroo :)
"NEVER SAY I DIDN'T GIVE MY ALL! NEVER SAY I DIDN'T GIVE MY ALL! THIS SHOWS NO MATTER HOW HARD YOU TRY TO BE GOOD AT SOMETHING THERE WILL BE PEOPLE THERE TO LIE ABOUT YOU AND BRING YOU DOWN! LIKE WAYNE SAYS PLEASE DON'T SHOOT ME DOWN CAUSE I'M FLYING! I'M HURT BY THIS ONE. ALL I CARE ABOUT ARE THE FANS. JUST SAY THIS OUT LOUD IN A ROOM FULL OF PEOPLE, "KANYE DOESN'T CARE ABOUT GIVING A GOOD PERFORMANCE." CAN ANYONE HONESTLY SAY THAT ????????? HAS ANYONE EVEN TAKEN THE TIME TO AT LEAST DO THE MATH??? BONNAROO SHOULD HAVE RELEASED A STATEMENT IN MY DEFENSE BUT SINCE THEY HAVEN'T LET'S BREAK DOWN THE WALLS ON THIS TRUMAN SHOW AND LET YOU KNOW WHAT REALLY OCCURRED!!! FOR OVER A MONTH WE WENT BACK AND FORTH ON WETHER OR NOT WE COULD EVEN FIT MY STAGE AT THE FESTIVAL. ONE DAY THEY WOULD SAY YES… WE'D SEND THEM OUR SPECS THEN THEY THEY'D SAY OK… THEN THEY WOULD SEND SPECS BACK THAT DIDN'T FIT THE STAGE. WE WERE OBVIOUSLY DEALING WITH IDIOTS WHO DIDN'T REALLY HAVE THE CAPACITY TO REALLY PUT ON THIS SHOW PROPERLY. THEY TRIED 2 GIVE ME A TIME SLOT WERE IT WAS STILL LIGHT OUTSIDE … I HAVE A LIGHT SHOW, IT'S NOT CALLED GLOW IN THE DARK FOR NO REASON SQUID BRAINS! MY PEOPLE WORKED OUT A COMPROMISED STAGE PLOT AND A 3AM TIME SLOT AND I AGREED. FAST FOWARD TO THE DAY OF THE SHOW. MY PRODUCTION MANAGER TRIED TO LOAD IN FOR 24 HOURS BEFORE I WENT ON STAGE BUT THE FESTIVAL WOULDN'T ALLOW US TO DO ANYTHING UNTILL PEARL JAM LEFT THE STAGE. PEARL JAM ENDED ONE HOUR LATE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AT THAT POINT WE'RE RACING AGAINST THE SUN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! AT 4:20AM DON COMES BACK 2 THE BUS AND TELLS ME, "IT WOULD TAKE 45 MORE MINUTES TO PUT ALL YOUR PYRO IN!" I SAY I HAVE TO GET OUT THERE AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. I STEPPED ON THE FRONT PART OF MY STAGE AND THERE WAS SO MUCH LIQUID ON THE STAGE I COULDN'T MOVE WITHOUT SLIPPING. I HAD TO ADJUST MY WHOLE PERFORMANCE STYLE BECAUSE OF IT. A FEW MORE SONGS IN AND THE SONG WAS ON IT'S WAY UP.. I CUT A FEW SONGS FROM THE SET BECAUSE I WANTED PEOPLE 2 EXPERIENCE STRONGER WHILE THERE WAS STILL SOME DARKNESS TO PERFORM IT IN. I'VE STRUGGLED WITH STRONGER FROM IT'S CONCEPTION. REMEMBER LAST SUMMER WHEN I CANCELED SOME TV APPEARANCES. IT WAS BECAUSE I DIDN'T WANT TO PERFORM STRONGER IN THE DAYTIME. ANYONE WHO CAME TO THE GLOW TOUR CAN UNDERSTAND WHY I WANTED PEOPLE TO SEE IT PROPERLY. IT BROKE MY HEART THAT I COULDN'T GIVE THESE FANS STRONGER IN IT'S GREATEST FORM… BY THE TIME I GOT TO STRONGER IT WAS DAYTIME AND IT BROKE MY HEART. I'M SORRY TO EVERYONE THAT I DIDN'T HAVE THE ABILITY 2 GIVE THE PERFORMANCE I WANTED TO. I'M SORRY… SOMETIMES I GO 2, 3 DAYS W/O SLEEP WORKING ON MY PERFORMANCE… I HAVE TO ICE MY KNEES AFTER EVERY SHOW AND THEY HURT WHEN I WALK THROUGH THE AIRPORT… HAVING AN EXPENSIVE STAGE CUTS MY PAYDAY IN HALF… CALL ME WHAT YOU WANT BUT NEVER SAY I DIDN'T GIVE MY ALL!!!
distance
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Re: Bonnaroo Roll Call
June 29, 2008 at 03:28 AM UTC
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IMPENETRABLE WALL OF TEXT
walkonby
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Re: Bonnaroo Roll Call
June 29, 2008 at 06:32 PM UTC
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what he said does make sense in places and parts. but he could have said it all in the same amount of space as this post, and a lot more eloquently.
did he actually call people "squid brains??" that explains everything about kanye west.
Mobius
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Re: Bonnaroo Roll Call
June 29, 2008 at 07:46 PM UTC
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I don't think anyone questioned his effort. I just don't think his brand of self-important douchebaggery connected in the right way with the Bonnaroo crowd. If he couldn't work out logistics for his 'glow in the dark' shit, he should have played a more back to basics set or bailed. I don't think that many people (i.e. anyone) would have been like 'damn i went all the way to bonnaroo to see kanye rip off daft punk at 3 am and then he just played a regular set. what a waste.'