Napster vanquished.

Despite Vansmack's argument of brand recognition:

Napster losing money, top executives
February 19 - 10:44 EST   The San Jose Mercury News reports that Napster is losing both money and top management, including its president, chief financial officer, vice president of programming and head of corporate communications as well a key board member. Roxio also began laying off workers this week at the Napster division, which lost US$15 million in its first two months of operation. In addition, the newspaper said Hewlett-Packard was originally supposed to partner with Napster and install a link to the Napster online music service on its computers. However, that deal fell through, and in January Apple and HP announced a strategic agreement to produce an HP-branded iPod and add an iTunes link to HP desktops and laptops.

From macminute.com
I have no idea or perspective as to whether this is good, bad or indifferent.
the real problem here is, its not free.
Aw, you mean you might actually have to go to the music shop to buy your cd's?

Pitty, pitty, pitty….
freedom is not free.

If you like itunes store, its probably a good thing. If you, as a consumer, prefer choice it is a bad thing.
Originally posted by mankie:
Aw, you mean you might actually have to go to the music shop to buy your cd's?

Pitty, pitty, pitty….
i work in one, remember? I was just making a statement.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:


Pitty, pitty, pitty….
i work in one, remember? I was just making a statement. [/QB]

But you dont like your job, right?

How else could you advocate Napster giving away free downloads?
Originally posted by mark e smith:

But you dont like your job, right?

How else could you advocate Napster giving away free downloads?
I dont believe i was advocating anything was i? I just stated that that was the reason they were losing money.

I dont like my job, because i get paid $6/hour and they keep scheduling me on Friday nights. The work i do there is fine, and i love to be in the store and talk music with the people there.

I never used Napster when it was free.
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by mankie:
Aw, you mean you might actually have to go to the music shop to buy your cd's?

Pitty, pitty, pitty….
i work in one, remember? I was just making a statement.
My comment was a general one, not for you in particular.
Originally posted by Bags:
I have no idea or perspective as to whether this is good, bad or indifferent.
it means that users aren't willing to cough up an extra $10 or so to be able to get access to full length song streams verses 30 second samples. napster was treating to create a community where users could share playlists and than pay the .99 per song download is they what they heard. in part in means that itunes is more successful because it doesn't have all the "value-added" features, and it was one of first out of the box to provide hit songs for individual download.

personally i still think .99 a track is to high and avoid itunes, etc like the plaque.
sonick,

Sorry if this is common knowledge, but which store do you work in?
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
I dont like my job, because i get paid $6/hour and they keep scheduling me on Friday nights. [/QB]
Sounds like you got a raise, congrats!!!!!
Originally posted by mankie:
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by mankie:
Aw, you mean you might actually have to go to the music shop to buy your cd's?

Pitty, pitty, pitty….
i work in one, remember? I was just making a statement.
My comment was a general one, not for you in particular.
thats kinda what i figured. :)
Originally posted by bellenseb:
sonick,

Sorry if this is common knowledge, but which store do you work in?
record and tape traders. and no, guiny, i didnt get a raise, its really $5.75, i just rounded up, lol.
I've heard good things about R&TT, but I've never been to one. What's the closest one to DC? Any chance of a DC/VA location?
Originally posted by bellenseb:
I've heard good things about R&TT, but I've never been to one. What's the closest one to DC? Any chance of a DC/VA location?
none in DC yet. all in the Bmore area. Severna Park or Annapolis are the closest to DC.
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:


personally i still think .99 a track is to high and avoid itunes, etc like the plaque.
Yeah, I agree that .99 a song is too much, but I don't think $10 per album is too bad, esp. when I feel like making an impulse buy. I just got tired of f***ing with kazaa and the like, getting songs with less than stellar audio quality, having to constantly fix up the id3 tags etc.
I like to physically own the CD. I think that makes me a dinosaur.

but for people who are not, I think itunes store is pretty cool. It makes a lot of sense. Being able to get individual tracks for 99 cents is great. It is much better than having to hunt down some rare overpriced CD single, or get an album you do not really want.
i'm with markie on this one… i would never spend $10 to buy impulsevily buy the electronic version of an album. for that much money i want the physical product.

emusic is still best us based mp3 provider. for a $3.33 I can get a 15 track album. the problem is those bastards keep adding great new music and 90 tracks a month only go so far.

if you are willing to dip your toe in the legalities of russian copywrite law, allofmp3 is one way to go. instead of paying per song you pay per megabyte downloaded. and you can get songs in a wide variety of formats and compression levels.

emusic is tied to the per track restriction because songwriters get paid the same regardless of if the track one minute or nine minutes long.

personally, i would like to see a music library scenario. where i can checkout the entire record listen to it for a week and decide whether not i want to keep it. and be given the option to buy the physical product at the end of the loan period.
Originally posted by mark e smith:
I like to physically own the CD.
I couldnt agree with you more…..and wont from now on. But i do have to have the cd.