Jedi Mind Tricks?

I'm heading to the clutch show next friday, and the Jedi Mind Tricks show caught my eye. Although I'm a scrawny white guy, I still hear good things about Jedi Mind Tricks, just wondering if it would be worth dropping by and how badly I would stand out.

I don't know how many indie rap shows you've been to, but let's just say that you will have no problem blending right in with the audience at JMT. I'll be at both of these.

Originally posted by shoot ur shot:
I don't know how many indie rap shows you've been to, but let's just say that you will have no problem blending right in with the audience at JMT. I'll be at both of these.

seriously. white, white, white, white.

TIGHT.

I will hopefully see you guys there.

Yes, it is tight. But keep that shizzle on the DL.

Originally posted by shoot ur shot:
I don't know how many indie rap shows you've been to, but let's just say that you will have no problem blending right in with the audience at JMT. I'll be at both of these.

Not that this is groundbreaking news or anything, but anyone have any theories on why underground hip-hop shows are 90% white? While I havent been all over the place, I assume its a similar demographic across the country (the roots rap about it on things fall apart).

I've been to maybe 5 or 6 hip-hop shows in the last couple of years at 930 Club (MF Doom, Dilated Peoples, J5, dizzee rascall, talib, etc), and nearly every one of them was overwhelmingly middle class white guys (maybe some more white chicks for Boyz II Men, ahem, J5).

This while the premier black university in the country, and, i'd assume, a teeming underground hip-hop scene, is a stone's throw away from the club doors.

Again, this isn't really news to anyone, but I'd be interested in hearing people's thoughts on it…

becuase underground hip-hop has an aura of hipness around it, and middle class white guys like that, same reason they like reading Robert Lanham

The UG are covered more in rock magazines than the hip-hop pages.

Plus, a lot of that backpack rap pushes the boundaries too far to where it's almost unlistenable at times.

good points by both of you, but …

a) there's a lot of "underground" hip-hop that sounds absolutely great (most of the people I listed above included)

b) it's obvious why alternative white kids like to identify with hip-hop, but it's less obvious why underground hip-hop shows don't attract larger black audiences … we are, after all, in the chocolate city and 930 is next to howard … i went to dream to see (nasty) NaS and it was much more integrated

first of all, i believe 930 is just known as more of a "white" place to be.

I saw Mos Def at Sonar in Baltimore and it was half and half if not less white. Sonar is a place known for catering to the hip hop crowd, 930 is not.

if Interpol was playing at a venue that normally had mostly black audiences and rap shows, i imagine a good bit of scrawny white kids would wait til next show….

so why dont they play the more black oriented venues and play 930 instead???

$$$$$$$$$

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
first of all, i believe 930 is just known as more of a "white" place to be.

Maybe yes, maybe no.

At the Craig David show it was not.

Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
good points by both of you, but …

a) there's a lot of "underground" hip-hop that sounds absolutely great (most of the people I listed above included)

b) it's obvious why alternative white kids like to identify with hip-hop, but it's less obvious why underground hip-hop shows don't attract larger black audiences … we are, after all, in the chocolate city and 930 is next to howard … i went to dream to see (nasty) NaS and it was much more integrated

R&B stations don't usually play UG artist, so the average hip-hop fan doesn't know about them.

Originally posted by Member 656:
R&B stations don't usually play UG artist, so the average hip-hop fan doesn't know about them.

Are you referring to MTV2?

Originally posted by vansmack:

Originally posted by Member 656:
R&B stations don't usually play UG artist, so the average hip-hop fan doesn't know about them.

Are you referring to MTV2?

With the exception of an odd airing here and there on "Subterranean", MTV2 doesn't play them either.

Originally posted by Member 656:
MTV2 doesn't play them either.

That was my point.

Just an observation from myself. Most of the hip-hop shows i've been to have been a good mix. white, black, asian kids, everything.

the shows i went to were NERD and the BEP, I saw the roots on the 26th and at College Park too, and Mos Def at Sonar.

I think Hip-Hop really is universal.

Originally posted by Xmasie Markie:

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
first of all, i believe 930 is just known as more of a "white" place to be.

Maybe yes, maybe no.

At the Craig David show it was not.

yeah, at meshell ndegeocello it wasn't a "white" venue either

Originally posted by Member 656:
R&B stations don't usually play UG artist, so the average hip-hop fan doesn't know about them.

sure, but using that same logic, the average rock fan wouldn't know about the arcade fire because they're not played on DC101 … people still find out about them, buy their albums, and sell out their shows …

this is a pretty segregated city for nightlife, and i'm leaning towards the 930 club just not being known as a hip-hop place … kinda sad though, i'd like to think i'd go anywhere to see someone i liked …

a gross generalization, but another thing to consider:

white folks tend to buy tickets pretty far in advance, so there aren't always tickets available the night of the show when your average black audience tries to get them.

Originally posted by vansmack:

Originally posted by Member 656:
MTV2 doesn't play them either.

That was my point.

Yeah but MTV2 is no longer about breaking new artist. Their ratings went up when they began airing the reality show repeats and commercial hip-hop videos.