blog backlash

Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
just went over to DCeiver, hadn't been there since this west side story started

i think that some of the funniest / most amusing writing is when someone smugly, satirically, and (seemingly) intelligently dismisses an idea, but completely misses the original point he meant to lampoon

the author arrogantly dots his t's, crosses his i's, and presses <ENTER> without even knowing how far off he was from the original premise.

its the glee that little moments like these bring that make life worth living. oh, and maury povich reruns. i have them on VHS.

HoyaSaxa–

I have gone back over the post you cited above. I must admit, reading it again, that post was very poorly reasoned. You are absolutely correct to point that out.

DCeiver

Hey, I know I am late to this whole conversation, and I guess in the internet age that any blog has the "right" to publish whatever they want. I only have one point to add-
What is wrong with the 9:30 club for having pre-sales to reward board regulars (aka music snobs as reported on some blogs) but almost every other business has loyalty programs for regular customers? A close examination of this board would show that many regular posters are also regular concert attendees, even for shows that don't sell out. Why not reward them?
And while we are talking business interests; isn't kind of interesting that DCist is critical of pre-sales and and writes hysterically that tickets are bought up ahead of time by "hipsters" and "insiders" (even when they are on sale to the public months before the show to anyone willing to look for them) yet that same DCist gets ad revenue from a number of ticket brokers? Doesn't it actually help ticket brokers to make people think that only insiders get tickets when that is not really true?

(Full disclosure: I have never subscribed to the snail mail newsletter but have always got into the shows that I wanted because I buy tickets early; I missed block party becasue I was too lazy to walk 6 blocks to the Black Cat back in early March to buy the tickets even though I knew they were on sale. How un-American, taking responsability for my own mistakes.)

i'd like to see where we've written hysterically complaining about "hipsters" buying up tickets. a quote and a link would be nice.

for the record, the editorial staff at DCist has absolutely no say in what kind of ads are on our sidebars. i don't even know what kinds of ads we're currently running, and they certainly don't inform any content we post.

Originally posted by tbmtt:
Hey, I know I am late to this whole conversation, and I guess in the internet age that any blog has the "right" to publish whatever they want. I only have one point to add-
What is wrong with the 9:30 club for having pre-sales to reward board regulars (aka music snobs as reported on some blogs) but almost every other business has loyalty programs for regular customers? A close examination of this board would show that many regular posters are also regular concert attendees, even for shows that don't sell out. Why not reward them?
And while we are talking business interests; isn't kind of interesting that DCist is critical of pre-sales and and writes hysterically that tickets are bought up ahead of time by "hipsters" and "insiders" (even when they are on sale to the public months before the show to anyone willing to look for them) yet that same DCist gets ad revenue from a number of ticket brokers?

Originally posted by tbmtt:
What is wrong with the 9:30 club for having pre-sales to reward board regulars (aka music snobs as reported on some blogs) but almost every other business has loyalty programs for regular customers? A close examination of this board would show that many regular posters are also regular concert attendees, even for shows that don't sell out. Why not reward them?

not to completely flog this to death (what am i kidding, this is going on WAY too long), but i think you're missing a major point here … 930 doesn't make the tix available early for forumites, they're for anybody and everybody who goes through the effort to find out about them, which is normally hard core fans of the bands and people who care enough about local live music to find out

and through all of this, none of the 930 staphers have really said anything, so we ALL could just be dead wrong.

this fight kinda seems like hipsters eating their own. do that many people really read this board other than the 20 (or so) regular posters? or am i way off there too? i can never keep anyone straight except rhett. is the 930 board and these blogs fighting for the readership of the same 300 people that go see ted leo 3 times a year? ah well, its funny when people take stuff on the internet seriously. please continue

Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
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i think you're missing a major point here … 930 doesn't make the tix available early for forumites, they're for anybody and everybody who goes through the effort to find out about them [/QB]

No Hoya I agree completely, I guess I did not articulate that point well enough. See my posts on the DCist from earlier today where I made this point and was piled on. Thanks for making this point though.

Originally posted by tbmtt:
I only have one point to add-
What is wrong with the 9:30 club for having pre-sales to reward board regulars (aka music snobs as reported on some blogs) but almost every other business has loyalty programs for regular customers? A

I'm quite sure I've never heard anyone denigrate the practice of pre-sales for loyal fans. In fact, the people who write on forums and subscribe to 9:30's newsletter should indeed get some special dispensation in that regard. Were it in my power to grant, I would gladly grant it.

I'm afraid that my position on this is and has been, ever resolutely, that the information on http://purchase.tickets.com/buy/TicketPurchase?orgid=3595 is in the public domain and does not constitute a pre-sale.

Maybe this will clarify things.

DCeiver

Originally posted by Fabby:
I'm quite sure I've never heard anyone denigrate the practice of pre-sales for loyal fans.

well, let me be the first here to say that i think pre-sales are usually retarded, and i'd think many others here would agree … they're usually for popular shows, so hundreds of people clamor over (maybe) 50 tickets. ugh.

Originally posted by HoyaSaxa03:
well, let me be the first here to say that i think pre-sales are usually retarded, and i'd think many others here would agree … they're usually for popular shows, so hundreds of people clamor over (maybe) 50 tickets. ugh.

As a regular forum member and very frequent concert-goer, I completely agree. Pre-sales have become a chaotic clusterf*** and I find them more annoying than anything. They're also far too prevalent now.

As to how annoying they are, just look at the ticket exchange right now; there are numerous postings from 'poor souls' who didn't get tickets during the Ryan Adams pre-sale and think they're completely out of luck (and possibly likely shafting targets for scalpers selling at a premium, while most of the tickets have yet to go on sale!).

Though I don't think any of this is the Club's fault. A lot of this pre-sale shit is instigated and requested by the band or band's management. And, after all, it does create hype, doesn't it?

let me just add my $.02…
dcist sucks. what a waste of bandwidth. there isn't anything on there that a resourceful washingtonian couldn't find for herself. i mean, come on, it's the dc news page for lazy people who don't know where to look.

so, am i surprised about them posting stuff for lazy people who don't look on tickets. com? no. they'll keep doing it as long as they can call it "news" and make ad revenue on it. in the meantime, those of us who do know where to look and make an effort to do so will continue to find them slow, redundant, and egotistic.

Originally posted by Fabby:

DCeiver

ooOOOooo can I change my handle to "snappy" and sign my posts too?
DCertified

Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Isn't it about time for one of those "Please Make It Stop" pictures?

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thanks thats exactly how i feel at the moment :p

Originally posted by chimbly sweep:

Originally posted by Fabby:

DCeiver

ooOOOooo can I change my handle to "snappy" and sign my posts too?
DCertified

Why yes. Yes you can.

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Really…if we're going to talk about blogs.


then please go and read mine! Castor Oil

Originally posted by the Pharmacist:
Really…if we're going to talk about blogs.


then please go and read mine! Castor Oil

The Pharmacist's blog is, indeed, a must read. Drinking, fighting, rocking, plus he's got the cutest kid in the world. Castor Oil is tigs.-

Thanks mang…

The idiots at the bar almost got into a fight last night over whether a "true pickled egg recipe" contained beet juice or not. Even for that place it was startling.

Originally posted by the Pharmacist:
Thanks mang…

The idiots at the bar almost got into a fight last night over whether a "true pickled egg recipe" contained beet juice or not. Even for that place it was startling.

Good Lord. That place has got to be the best bar ever.

DCeiver