beetsnotbeats
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Moby, Moby, Moby....
March 29, 2005 at 11:52 PM UTC
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And, despite the mainstream success he enjoyed with "Play" and "18," he still relishes being very much out of the mainstream…. Don't you realize that you are about as removed from the mainstream as Jack Johnson and Beck? (Beck, Moby and Johnson hold the top 3 spots in iTunes album chart)
"It just seem like musicians want to sell a few records and put out a perfume line, and I think it's so sad that there are so many musicians who don't want to change the world," he says, frustration clear in his voice. "Music has been so much more." Yes, after all, your music has stood for credit cards, new cars, department stores, PCs, coffee, sneakers….
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distance
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Re: Moby, Moby, Moby....
March 30, 2005 at 01:03 AM UTC
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i like some of the stuff moby has done, but as much as i want to like him more, i just am not capable of doing so. for anything good he's done, there's a collaboration with gwen stefani or something to offset it.
he's a bit annoying. not as annoying and not as much of a media whore as bono, but he still is one.
i saw him @ 9:30 for like $12 i think.. can't believe that was getting close to 10 years ago, but i don't think i'd ever go see him again. when i saw him, he somehow managed to make all his techno songs sound exactly alike, even though they don't on the albums.
bunnyman
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Re: Moby, Moby, Moby....
March 30, 2005 at 04:10 AM UTC
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Moby used to be brilliant…the show in 1995 at the Black Cat was amazing, even as recent as 1999 he was still great to see live. I just am not that into 18 and Hotel. He seems like he'd be better off playing Vegas or something.
tenfifteen
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Re: Moby, Moby, Moby....
March 30, 2005 at 01:50 PM UTC
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I hate it when one of my favorite songs is relegated to selling something (Modest Mouse–Nissan) or functioning as background music for vapid television (Spoon, et al on the OC soundtrack).
Thankfully, I was bored shitless by every track on Play. It's perfect and passive late 90s muzak.
sonickteam2
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Re: Moby, Moby, Moby....
March 30, 2005 at 01:55 PM UTC
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I had dinner with him one time (seriously). And he's really one of the coolest people i have ever met. he's a very fascinating person. not diggin' the new music though.
"If I were a woman, I'd sure like to be his girlfriend… Walking in the park hand-in-hand, wrapping my legs around him, cuddling in the spoon position, our hearts beating in unison, staring into his eyes over our morning coffee…"
Rhett Miller
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Re: Moby, Moby, Moby....
March 30, 2005 at 02:13 PM UTC
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Did he hit on you?
Originally posted by sonickteam2:
I had dinner with him one time (seriously). And he's really one of the coolest people i have ever met. he's a very fascinating person. not diggin' the new music though.
"If I were a woman, I'd sure like to be his girlfriend… Walking in the park hand-in-hand, wrapping my legs around him, cuddling in the spoon position, our hearts beating in unison, staring into his eyes over our morning coffee…"
tenfifteen
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Re: Moby, Moby, Moby....
March 30, 2005 at 02:17 PM UTC
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
I had dinner with him one time (seriously). And he's really one of the coolest people i have ever met. he's a very fascinating person. not diggin' the new music though.
Oh, I think he's cool. Every interview with him I've read or seen has been very interesting. But deriding people for selling out after Play… well, that lowers my opinion of him considerably. Wasn't every track from that album licensed to an advertiser?
skeeter
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Re: Moby, Moby, Moby....
March 30, 2005 at 02:23 PM UTC
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I lost what little respect I had for Moby when he changed the words to "That's When I Reach For My Revolver".
tenfifteen
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Re: Moby, Moby, Moby....
March 30, 2005 at 02:32 PM UTC
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
I never heard him say anything about selling out, after Play. surely he was joking…..
The quote in the first post of this thread is his… sounded pretty earnest to me. I read the article too, and in the context of the "interview," makes him sound even more out of touch with reality.
I love the whole rationalization of making "accessible" music. Essentially it's lamentable when someone else (Gwen Stefani) uses a guest-producer, but when I co-produce a Britney Spears song, that's art, because I want to change pop music.
Riiiight.
tenfifteen
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Re: Moby, Moby, Moby....
March 30, 2005 at 02:33 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
I lost what little respect I had for Moby when he changed the words to "That's When I Reach For My Revolver".
Happiness is A Warm Fun!
tenfifteen
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Re: Moby, Moby, Moby....
March 30, 2005 at 03:09 PM UTC
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
i think Moby's reality is completely different than yours or mine. its tough not to see things so black and white.
Moby is a much more talented musician than almost anyone still alive today, I assure you.
I can definitely agree with all of that. I stop short of calling it hypocrisy because I don't know him, but it is sort of a contradiction for him to blast others for "selling perfume" or guest production and not turn that finger on himself. I'd put him near the top in terms of musicianship/production, but in terms of songwriting, I'm just not feeling it.
Doctor Doom
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Re: Moby, Moby, Moby....
March 30, 2005 at 03:21 PM UTC
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you know why the music you love is now making it into ads and thus ruining it for you? Because smarmy indie hipsters like yourselves are now old enough to hold jobs of influence in the advertising industry, and they're seizing the reins of power to force the music they love on the masses. Revenge of the nerds, if you will.
Doctor Doom
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Re: Moby, Moby, Moby....
March 30, 2005 at 03:28 PM UTC
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
Originally posted by Confssions of an Englsh Opium Eater:
smarmy indie hipsters
who the hell are you calling a "smarmy indie hipster" ????
:) i certainly hold no job of importance in any industry.
just pulling collective legs. :)
distance
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Re: Moby, Moby, Moby....
March 30, 2005 at 04:07 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
I lost what little respect I had for Moby when he changed the words to "That's When I Reach For My Revolver".
wasn't that only for the video on mtv, though?
he should have just let them bleep it like all the rap videos.