why does every other person hate dar?

Giant has a 12 pack of Sam Adams for sale for $10. Spending money on beer at concerts is simply stupid, isn't it? I might buy one or two drinks a year at shows.

Whether beer is $5 or $7.50, it's a huge profit margin.

Originally posted by LRHippo:

Originally posted by walkonby:
and somehow i find i pay the equal "overpriced" amount for beer at any show i go to at any event. solution: drink water . . . or get fucked up before the show. yee hah.

I"m sorry but $6.50 - $7.00 for a warm, in the can, I'll pour it for you Heinekin or Amstel is overpriced. High price for beer at 930 is what, $5.00? ANd that's for the good stuff (Red Hook, Dogfish, Sierra, etc). [/QB]

because you can't stand up during shows

at the pixies show pretty much everyone in the entire venue was standing

not if i went. we went to the Prince show at MCI and everyone in the joint was standing up dancing (its prince!) EXCEPT the guy behind us with his woman, who kept asking me to sit down, finally we switched seats.

no one at the Motley crue concert was sitting except for the 2 rows behind us , we eventually stood up, no one said anything.

at the Black crowes, before they went on, girl behind me goes "you arent gonna stand up and dance around are you, cause I'm 4'11"." and this was UNreserved seating. move somewhere else bitch.

sheesh.

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
You would never go back to a concert venue because you once "had an issue with one of the staff"?

Seems like you'd end up cheating yourself out of a lot of good shows.

actually:
a) there is not much that comes to dar that i want to see
b) what comes to dar that i do want to see i can typically see elsewhere
c) if the building manager or whatever it was acts basically like he wants to fight you, i don't need to give my money to said building. dar can burn for all i care.

it's not that great of a building/concert hall.

What if you "had an issue with one of the staff" at 9:30, Black Cat, Iota, or whereever it is you like to go? Would you hold the same childish "I'm not going back" grudge against any venue that done you wrong once?

Originally posted by distance:

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
You would never go back to a concert venue because you once "had an issue with one of the staff"?

Seems like you'd end up cheating yourself out of a lot of good shows.

actually:
a) there is not much that comes to dar that i want to see
b) what comes to dar that i do want to see i can typically see elsewhere
c) if the building manager or whatever it was acts basically like he wants to fight you, i don't need to give my money to said building. dar can burn for all i care.

it's not that great of a building/concert hall.

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
What if you "had an issue with one of the staff" at 9:30, Black Cat, Iota, or whereever it is you like to go? Would you hold the same childish "I'm not going back" grudge against any venue that done you wrong once?

if someone offends your character and/or humiliates you or whatever, i dont see whats childish about not giving them your money. Should people be allowed to treat you however they want because they have something you want?

i dont think so. I was wrongly accused of shoplifting at Macy's once and i will never go back, no matter what kind of sale they have.

and i dont feel like i am missing a damn thing, except for being humiliated and taken advantage of.

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
What if you "had an issue with one of the staff" at 9:30, Black Cat, Iota, or whereever it is you like to go? Would you hold the same childish "I'm not going back" grudge against any venue that done you wrong once?

Why is it childish?

We live in a capitalist society and one of the best ways to express your opinion is with the money you spend. If a business gives you a poor product or poor service, not patronizing that business is better than writing a letter or bitching on a messageboard.

i dont use ticketmaster.com and sometimes i miss out on shows because of it, and sure i bitch initially for 10 minutes or a whole day or whatever, but eventually i get over it, and i'd rather miss the show then give them my money.

Originally posted by Jonas Grumby:
the Fillmore or the Warfield…

How big are those places compared to 9:30 club? I think DAR serves for a niche above – 2500 rather than 1200. [Eww, I just thought, the 'standing' alternative to DAR is probably Nation…]

I guess it depends on the experience.

If I had one isolated incident with one isolated employee of an establishment, and that incident didn't reflect the overarching attitude of the establishment, I don't think I would do something as excessive as "I'm never going there again." If anything, I would get the employees name, and ask to speak to management or write management a letter of complaint against said employee. Or I would let it slide as a one time bad fluke.

If the incident happened repeatedly, well yes then I would take my business elsewhere.

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
What if you "had an issue with one of the staff" at 9:30, Black Cat, Iota, or whereever it is you like to go? Would you hold the same childish "I'm not going back" grudge against any venue that done you wrong once?

Why is it childish?

We live in a capitalist society and one of the best ways to express your opinion is with the money you spend. If a business gives you a poor product or poor service, not patronizing that business is better than writing a letter or bitching on a messageboard.

see my response to ggw.

Serves you right for shopping at a crap store like Macy's. :p

Originally posted by sonickteam2:

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
What if you "had an issue with one of the staff" at 9:30, Black Cat, Iota, or whereever it is you like to go? Would you hold the same childish "I'm not going back" grudge against any venue that done you wrong once?

if someone offends your character and/or humiliates you or whatever, i dont see whats childish about not giving them your money. Should people be allowed to treat you however they want because they have something you want?

i dont think so. I was wrongly accused of shoplifting at Macy's once and i will never go back, no matter what kind of sale they have.

and i dont feel like i am missing a damn thing, except for being humiliated and taken advantage of.

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
see my response to ggw.

Serves you right for shopping at a crap store like Macy's. :p

I wasnt shopping there, asshole. i was walking through.


and your response to ggw was chicken shit. do you know distance's situation? what if a guard punched you in the face? you would write a letter? what a joke…

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
What if you "had an issue with one of the staff" at 9:30, Black Cat, Iota, or whereever it is you like to go? Would you hold the same childish "I'm not going back" grudge against any venue that done you wrong once?

the issue that i had @ dar i don't think would be an issue @ 930. if a member of the 930 staff acted the way this person at dar acted, i can't imagine why they would have a job for very long. i have never seen/heard of 930 management acting in a way that this person did at dar.

and if i had a big enough issue with somewhere, then yes, i would refuse to go back. i don't live in dc, so i have to travel to go to the shows. if it means just travelling in a different direction to go to a show, so be it.

You're right, it does depend on the situation, as I noted.

Did a guard punch Distance in the face?

I can't imagine why a guard would punch someone as dull as me in the face. But if they did, I would ask to speak to management immediately. The letter would come later in the form of a lawsuit, provided my own conduct hadn't been inappropriate.

Originally posted by sonickteam2:

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
see my response to ggw.

Serves you right for shopping at a crap store like Macy's. :p

I wasnt shopping there, asshole. i was walking through.


and your response to ggw was chicken shit. do you know distance's situation? what if a guard punched you in the face? you would write a letter? what a joke…

to answer your question, sonick…before i went to dar, i was told by others that dar was a "seated" venue and that security would ask you to sit if you decided to stand. at the sonic youth/wilco show, for example, the crowd remained seated until the band invited the crowd to stand up towards the end. even then, the balcony remained firmly seated. it was really uncomfortable and inhibiting. maybe they don't want people falling off the very steeply inclined balcony?? it almost made me dizzy it was that steep.

So what was the issue, and why could it not possibly be an issue at the 9:30?

Originally posted by distance:

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
What if you "had an issue with one of the staff" at 9:30, Black Cat, Iota, or whereever it is you like to go? Would you hold the same childish "I'm not going back" grudge against any venue that done you wrong once?

the issue that i had @ dar i don't think would be an issue @ 930. if a member of the 930 staff acted the way this person at dar acted, i can't imagine why they would have a job for very long. i have never seen/heard of 930 management acting in a way that this person did at dar.

and if i had a big enough issue with somewhere, then yes, i would refuse to go back. i don't live in dc, so i have to travel to go to the shows. if it means just travelling in a different direction to go to a show, so be it.

Originally posted by walkonby:

Originally posted by joz:

Originally posted by god's shoeshine:
because it has seats
because you can't drink while you watch the show
because you can't smoke there
because its just too classy looking for a rock show

and…
because the staff has been rude to me numerous times
because the atm was broken and there was a no readmittance rule so that i could go and get money out at another atm and return to buy overpriced beers to guzzle in the atmosphere-less beer garden that reminds me of the common-area in my college dorm
because you can't stand up during shows
because bands really don't sound that great there (the sound of most bands is completely swallowed up and is especially drowned out if you're high on the balcony)

the staff of anyplace can be rude. especially if one deserves it.

you obviously been to the wrong shows at dar, because we all stand and party like there is no tommorrow at the shows we go to. we don't need no education.

and quit sitting so high up and maybe you can hear. the same rule applies at patriot

and somehow i find i pay the equal "overpriced" amount for beer at any show i go to at any event. solution: drink water . . . or get fucked up before the show. yee hah.

too classy??? that's a good one. i guess you enjoy seeing shows at the velvet or even better, the armory.

and smoking will kill you and everyone else around you that breathes your shit.

i don't smoke, but its a rock show. i like to drink beer while i watch music, i really don't think that's a big deal. it seems silly to me to go see sonic youth/wilco and feel underdressed in a tshirt and jeans

So are you saying they don't have rock shows in NYC or California anymore?

Or does not being surrounded by smokers destroy your concert going experience?

Originally posted by god's shoeshine:

i don't smoke, but its a rock show. [/QB]

if they ban smoking at bars in the district, i will drop that complaint. its ok if they let you back in too

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer:
So are you saying they don't have rock shows in NYC or California anymore?

people smoke in those shows anyway, last week at the black crowes EVERYONE was freakin smoking, and not just cigarettes!