Hmmm… I do recall seeing Jewel at the old 9:30
Is 930 straying from it's roots?
One oddball booking doesn't completely discredit his argument. Look on the schedule at any time now and there are a half dozen nights of Jewel-calibre performers.
Originally posted by Moon Mulllens:
Hmmm… I do recall seeing Jewel at the old 9:30
Originally posted by DriveWay:Some bands have a "Black Cat" connection, Death Cab being friends with D Plan would be a good case and point. Some bands have a 9:30 connection, some will play both (Luna for example). I like having all the different clubs as you can get to see some shows or bands that would otherwise escape you, only problem is when they all book something killer for the same night.
I was amazed that Death Cab For Cutie played at the Black Cat and not the 930 club… as well as the Twilight Singers. Both of these acts could have filled the 930 Club easily. I don't know, it is just hard to believe that a club that use to house bands like Velocity Girl, Hum or Smashing Pumokins is now on a Melissa Ethridge kick. I'm not complaining per say because I enjoy going to the black cat, just an oberservation that the club has changed dramatically and has basically nothing to do with the original club, or how the new club was in it's first couple of years.
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:That would be an opinion of personal taste. There were tons of bands that played at the old 9:30 that I didn't care for, as there are now.
One oddball booking doesn't completely discredit his argument. Look on the schedule at any time now and there are a half dozen nights of Jewel-calibre performers.
Originally posted by Moon Mulllens:
Hmmm… I do recall seeing Jewel at the old 9:30
With the exception of a few mainstream music acts, the booking doesn't seem to be any different than what was playing at the old venue let's say, 10 years ago.
That's because there ARE other clubs now (of the old 9:30's size), and 9:30 is three times the size. I believe that if Uncle Tupelo could sell out the 9:30, they'd play the 9:30.
Hey, question – where are the Old 97s playing?
Hey, question – where are the Old 97s playing?
Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
And if 9:30 Club were the club it once was, it WOULD cater more to the smaller alt-country market. When Uncle Tupelo came to town, they played the old 9:30 Club. Now bands like that play Iota.
Originally posted by Bagster:I am pretty sure if Uncle Tupelo were to play 9:30 now, the show would sell out.
That's because there ARE other clubs now (of the old 9:30's size), and 9:30 is three times the size. I believe that if Uncle Tupelo could sell out the 9:30, they'd play the 9:30.
Hey, question – where are the Old 97s playing?
Originally posted by Dupek Chopra:Right, because we never hear about the bands or the shows he likes here on the board. I'll never say I know what Rhett listens to on a comprehensive basis, but I certainly know the highlights.
How dare anyone presume anything about that great unknowable sphynx, Rhett? Shame on you Bagster! May your firstborn be shut in a sweatlocker with an insurance salesman. A thousand lashes…
Originally posted by DriveWay:See Pollstar Melissa Etheridge is doing several dates at larger clubs across the country. Perhaps she is tried of playing arenas but doesn't want to lock people out from seeing her in the smaller venues. So her dates are not unique to 9:30 club. The club also books lots of indie bands in the punk/emo vein, it maybe not the indie you want to hear.
I was amazed that Death Cab For Cutie played at the Black Cat and not the 930 club… as well as the Twilight Singers. Both of these acts could have filled the 930 Club easily. I don't know, it is just hard to believe that a club that use to house bands like Velocity Girl, Hum or Smashing Pumokins is now on a Melissa Ethridge kick. I'm not complaining per say because I enjoy going to the black cat, just an oberservation that the club has changed dramatically and has basically nothing to do with the original club, or how the new club was in it's first couple of years.
Originally posted by Bagster:
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Hey, question – where are the Old 97s playing?
Evidently the same venue that now only books old washed-up, Jewel-calibre artists. Very fitting don't you think?
Originally posted by sonickteam2:So funny…that appears to be what the Jane's Addiction fan wants. "Hey Seth, will you call Perry and get his butt to the club?"
also, its not like Seth and Co. just sit around and think of cool bands and then call them up and fly them into town.
Originally posted by Sir HC:Very true, HC. Opening bands get great exposure. Look at Detroit Cobras, who then played Iota a couple months later.
Originally posted by DriveWay:Other clubs have taken up some of the slack, but the 9:30 also uses the opening slots to bring in new talent.
Ive just noticed in the last few months… that I can't remember the last time I went to the club.
Originally posted by Bagster:small difference. If Jane's was already planning on doing a tour, and then the arena tour cancelled, they may still go out on thier own, on a club tour. i am sure its been done before
Originally posted by sonickteam2:So funny…that appears to be what the Jane's Addiction fan wants. "Hey Seth, will you call Perry and get his butt to the club?"
also, its not like Seth and Co. just sit around and think of cool bands and then call them up and fly them into town.
but still, unless Seth and Perry have built Zen gardens and smoked opium together before, i dont see him just callin up Perry :)
Originally posted by Bagster:unless I am completely mistaken, I believe the Detroit Cobras were part of the package tour, so 9:30 had little to do with that
Very true, HC. Opening bands get great exposure. Look at Detroit Cobras, who then played Iota a couple months later.
it seems it is only some of the tours that dont already have their own opener, in those cases the club does a great job of getting local talent to play, like the carlsonics with the buzzcocks or the put outs with idlewild
And remember the club also uses Fletchers in Baltimore to work for bands with smaller followings. The 9:30 club is just one part of their network.
IMP has a long Janes history, they even did some good Porno for Pyros stuff, so maybe he could give Perry a call, but for some reason I would think Perry has a medium with a crystal ball to get his incoming psychic messages.
IMP has a long Janes history, they even did some good Porno for Pyros stuff, so maybe he could give Perry a call, but for some reason I would think Perry has a medium with a crystal ball to get his incoming psychic messages.
Looking at the 9:30 Club ad in today's City Paper, all I see is a diverse, eclectic range of acts that cater to every type of audience, size and musical genre. Of all the venues I have been to, 9:30 easily is the most enjoyable place to see a show. Thanks!
I HAVE A GREAT IDEA (and I am SO bummed I'll miss the discussion, if it happens, plus any goodies exchanged).
You can continue this debate at the Forum Gathering, because so many of the schedules from 20 years ago are on the walls down in the Back Bar. I'll bet you find that there were many "oddball" bookings back in the day as well. I agree with Moon on that…
One thing of note – it's even different comparing the club in the very early 80s and the early 90s before the move. They'd reached a pretty substantive level of success by the late 80s.
You can continue this debate at the Forum Gathering, because so many of the schedules from 20 years ago are on the walls down in the Back Bar. I'll bet you find that there were many "oddball" bookings back in the day as well. I agree with Moon on that…
One thing of note – it's even different comparing the club in the very early 80s and the early 90s before the move. They'd reached a pretty substantive level of success by the late 80s.
At the old club they booked the Bay City Rollers.
nuf said.
nuf said.
but its hard to judge bands from then, now…… I mean, I dont think I would recognise the olden days hot hot heats….Or Jewels, for that matter.
Oh, I'll bet you can. If not, have Kosmo, er, I mean evilsanta, give you some background!
Originally posted by mark e smith:
but its hard to judge bands from then, now…… I mean, I dont think I would recognise the olden days hot hot heats….Or Jewels, for that matter.
Jeez, I wouldn't expect the suck ups who post on the 9:30 board to ever say anything bad about the club anyway. Except me and Cranky Mankie, and we're off in our own little middle aged worlds anyway.