Dear Velvet Lounge (aka YOU SUCK):

ps: a thousand made up lies or whatever your name is, you have shit taste in music and we don't want you patronizing us anyway. thanks and good night!
No more Alasdair Roberts on the 18th of august? Just noticed this last night. His new album has become one of my favs of the year and I was really looking forward to that show. The previous album was nearly perfect, too.
I'll probably still go anyway because that lineup still looks good.
yeah, alasdair decided to cancel his tour because he wasn't making enough on the show to cover costs without the jansch guarantees.  it'll be george kinney of the golden dawn (likely backed by kohoutek on a few songs), kuschty rye ergot, and pablonious bill.  i might add one more act so that we hit the cherished 1am mark.
Jack Rose would fit nicely in there if he's free.

I saw Pablonious Bill once at 611. Very enjoyable.
snailhook wrote:
bottom line: if you go to a sold-out show at the velvet, don't expect it to run smoothly or on time. be fucking grateful that you even get a chance to see these bands, considering the lack of decent venues and provocative music in dc these days.


Well, on the other hand the shows at Pyramid Atlantic usually start promptly at 7 or 8 and are over within a couple hours (and are pretty decently attended). That's a much more palatable experience for a lot of people, and those shows are equally provocative.
I've still yet to get to a show there. Sunday will undoubtedly be a good one; maybe I should do that.
Snailhook = Rudeboy

The rest of you lot = pussies
Bombay wrote:
sweetcell wrote:
  it's certainly your right to choose to not frequent the velvet if its schedule doesn't meet yours


That's exactly what I've done.  Their scheduling of bands and notoriously late start times has me down to maybe 1-2 shows a year there.   If it's not an absolute must-see show - forget it.

Ditto for me.  And, alas, DC9 can do the same thing on weeknights, so I go very infrequently, which is a shame, but that's how I roll.
But DC9/RNRH/Red and Black actually do suck.


But that's a whole nother topic for another day.
Wait, what happened to Jansch? I saw he bailed from the Al Stewart Birchmere show. Was he scheduled to play dates with Roberts too?

snailhook wrote:
yeah, alasdair decided to cancel his tour because he wasn't making enough on the show to cover costs without the jansch guarantees.  it'll be george kinney of the golden dawn (likely backed by kohoutek on a few songs), kuschty rye ergot, and pablonious bill.  i might add one more act so that we hit the cherished 1am mark.
Thousand wrote:
You think four fucking bands is too many to have on a weeknight when you're headliner isn't even coming on by the time the Metro closes?


Look, if that is past your bedtime, then what are you doing in a rock club anyway?

Thousand wrote:
I don't care how bad of a fucking dive you run, or want to have, at least have your fucking headliners come on before the Metro closes. Have some fucking professionalism.


Maybe you should email your weekly itinerary to the club so that they can tailor each and every aspect of their venue to your exact specifications.

Thousand wrote:
I'll never bitch about 9:30 or the Black Cat ever again.


Hope you enjoy paying those oh so reasonable bar prices and soaking up the ever predictable lineup of bands ad infinitum.

bwu wrote:
Well, on the other hand the shows at Pyramid Atlantic usually start promptly at 7 or 8 and are over within a couple hours (and are pretty decently attended). That's a much more palatable experience for a lot of people, and those shows are equally provocative.


True enough in some ways, but you are not exactly getting a club experience there. I regularly attend shows at  Pyramid Atlantic and always enjoy myself but that experience vs the Velvet is really an apples and oranges situation,
Another bitching thread. Geez… I've been in DC since 1993 and the Velvet Lounge is an important place .. they give up and coming or up and never coming bands a place to play! They also book some strange shows that simply don't sell enough to interest IMP or LN.. such as Eliott Murphy in his only DC show in probably 10-20 years! Or the guitarist from Television (Richard Lloyd I want to say)..I saw a great sabbathy metal band one time there and their manager rolled, lit and passed around a joint (grade a) to the crowd at 2 am… Its just a different place.

Its an important place.. Heck we still miss the Metro thank god for Velvet Lounge….

Do they start the shows too late? Yes, but its just that kind of place…

Honestly seems kind of oldfogeyesque to complain about them not synching their schedule with the metro schedule..

Personally I think DC needs places like the Velvet Lounge..lets not forget how U Street used to be with Asylum etc..
Hey, at least I"m not griping about late show times!

hutch wrote:
Another bitching thread. Geez… I've been in DC since 1993 and the Velvet Lounge is an important place .. they give up and coming or up and never coming bands a place to play! They also book some strange shows that simply don't sell enough to interest IMP or LN.. such as Eliott Murphy in his only DC show in probably 10-20 years! Or the guitarist from Television (Richard Lloyd I want to say)..I saw a great sabbathy metal band one time there and their manager rolled, lit and passed around a joint (grade a) to the crowd at 2 am… Its just a different place.

Its an important place.. Heck we still miss the Metro thank god for Velvet Lounge….

Do they start the shows too late? Yes, but its just that kind of place…

Honestly seems kind of oldfogeyesque to complain about them not synching their schedule with the metro schedule..

Personally I think DC needs places like the Velvet Lounge..lets not forget how U Street used to be with Asylum etc..
three points:

Well, on the other hand the shows at Pyramid Atlantic usually start promptly at 7 or 8 and are over within a couple hours (and are pretty decently attended). That's a much more palatable experience for a lot of people, and those shows are equally provocative.

hey, i love pyramid atlantic, too, and jeff surak is to be commended for picking up the experimental slack since 611 florida closed and i stopped booking the velvet lounge full-time.  however, pyramid atlantic is an art space and not a bar, so having shows from 7-9:30 works perfectly fine for them.  it is also a bit off the beaten path.  the velvet lounge relies on bar sales to make money, and it is imperative that we keep people drinking there from 8pm-1:30am…and 2:30am on the weekends. 

Another bitching thread. Geez… I've been in DC since 1993 and the Velvet Lounge is an important place .. they give up and coming or up and never coming bands a place to play! They also book some strange shows that simply don't sell enough to interest IMP or LN.. such as Eliott Murphy in his only DC show in probably 10-20 years! Or the guitarist from Television (Richard Lloyd I want to say)..I saw a great sabbathy metal band one time there and their manager rolled, lit and passed around a joint (grade a) to the crowd at 2 am… Its just a different place.

hutch nailed our aesthetic in this paragraph. nowhere else in dc will you see elliott murphy, richard lloyd, and hit a j at a doom-metal show at 2am. if this isn't your bag, so be it, but there are still some folks in the area who dig this scene, and this is who we cater to.

Wait, what happened to Jansch? I saw he bailed from the Al Stewart Birchmere show. Was he scheduled to play dates with Roberts too?

bellenseb, bert had surgery this month and had to cancel his whole tour. he's recovering well, and plans to reschedule in the spring.


The Velvet Lounge/Snailhook brought Ulrich Schnauss to DC last summer.

They are forever my friends.
betao wrote:
The Velvet Lounge/Snailhook brought Ulrich Schnauss to DC last summer.

They are forever my friends.

recognize, bitches.  ulrich went on a 1:30 am to a half-empty room, and it was awesome.
I wish I would have caught that… Can we get a 2009 show?
killsaly wrote:
I wish I would have caught that… Can we get a 2009 show?
Oh God… that night was epic. Please again!

Even another Auburn Lull/Screen Vinyl Image twofer (the openers along with… Luxa!, i think) would probably get a few of us back.
Julian, wrote:
Oh God… that night was epic. Please again!

Even another Auburn Lull/Screen Vinyl Image twofer (the openers along with… Luxa!, i think) would probably get a few of us back.

seconded.