Neil Young hip-hop album

So, did anyone check out the music?

This may just be the awkward white guy inside me, but how does one correctly respond to the "what's good?" greeting?

If I say "not much" it sounds depressing.  So what should be said?

walkonby wrote:

walkonby wrote:
have you seen the new nas/nick cannon psa about the decline of hip hop?  i could not believe they were allowed to get away with that.  sorry, i know that nothing to do with neil young or what you have done here.  carry on.

seeing how this thread came to a screaming halt . . . and nobody answered my question.  here it is.  priceless, stupid, or shocking?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRVqVwGWocM

Well, I personally wouldn't call it priceless, stupid, or shocking but it is worth two minutes of your day and possibly sending to a friend or two.  It's not really saying anything new unless you haven't seen Spike Lee's Bamboozled, but it is an interesting message slightly blown out of proportion.

gaaaaaaaaah wrote:
This may just be the awkward white guy inside me, but how does one correctly respond to the "what's good?" greeting?

If I say "not much" it sounds depressing.  So what should be said?

I'd go with "Same ol'" even if it's not the case.  I feel the greeting "What's good?" puts more positive thoughts in your head than the worn out "What's up?" and thus, will lead to a better mood.

The question was rhetorical by the way.

"what's good?"

"life!"

or is that too ghay?  you could dork it up by instead saying "life, the universe, everything!"

mjobrien wrote:
So, did anyone check out the music?

Son, did you ever come to the wrong place…

sweetcell wrote:
"what's good?"

"life!"

or is that too ghay?  you could dork it up by instead saying "life, the universe, everything!"

"What's good?" "Your mom!" –> the 14 y.o. male response.

Julian, wrote:

Dojokoto wrote:
HAHAHAHA, I'm sorry what? Hip Hop is poor people music? You must be the most ignorant, uneducated people I've ever met. Hip Hop isn't poor people music, YOU sound like you're part of the poor people renegade. Jesus Christ, I had to see it to believe it.

What can you expect from a white person named "Julian, Certified Weblebrity"

The popularity of hiphop in a community, along with standardized test scores, levels of obesity, occurrences of teenage pregnancy, and military enlistment rates all directly correlate to community income levels. Try taking the statistics class in your Dangerous Minds-esque public high school, if one is offered, and become educated yourself on topics before your spout off at the mouth.

Oh, and by the way, if you're still trying to get a ticket for VFest Baltimore, I see VFest Montreal still has tickets available, which you can no doubt use! Better! Get! On It!!

Alright, so you are basing your decision off a correlation of standardized test scores, and the popularity of hiphop? I'm going to admit that rap these days is pure vile. The average teenage-esque audience will love a song about obtaining cars and money, and the occasional "half-naked ladies up in the pool." Have you ever listened to a song by Rakim? Nas? Atmopshere? Aesop Rock? Grandmaster Flash? You can't judge a genre of music based on statistics. Music is an artistic form of auditory communication that can intertwine with one's life. Everyone has different tastes, and if one dislikes a certain genre of music, then you need to propose a decent legitimate argument to support your thesis. It seems like you are not analyzing the music itself, but you are relying on fundamental statistics to oppose hip-hop?? Rap and the hip hop culture was founded on people who vent their anger by rapping poetry about their experiences/horrors/problems. If you ever listened to a song by Nas, he discusses about his life on the streets, the problematic situations he had to live through. One man with one mic facing the vibe of a crowd on a stage is more difficult than some punk-ass band you love (Probably O.A.R. since you're more white than Ryan Seacrest.)

Dojokoto wrote:

Julian, wrote:

Dojokoto wrote:
HAHAHAHA, I'm sorry what? Hip Hop is poor people music? You must be the most ignorant, uneducated people I've ever met. Hip Hop isn't poor people music, YOU sound like you're part of the poor people renegade. Jesus Christ, I had to see it to believe it.

What can you expect from a white person named "Julian, Certified Weblebrity"

The popularity of hiphop in a community, along with standardized test scores, levels of obesity, occurrences of teenage pregnancy, and military enlistment rates all directly correlate to community income levels. Try taking the statistics class in your Dangerous Minds-esque public high school, if one is offered, and become educated yourself on topics before your spout off at the mouth.

Oh, and by the way, if you're still trying to get a ticket for VFest Baltimore, I see VFest Montreal still has tickets available, which you can no doubt use! Better! Get! On It!!

Alright, so you are basing your decision off a correlation of standardized test scores, and the popularity of hiphop? I'm going to admit that rap these days is pure vile. The average teenage-esque audience will love a song about obtaining cars and money, and the occasional "half-naked ladies up in the pool." Have you ever listened to a song by Rakim? Nas? Atmopshere? Aesop Rock? Grandmaster Flash? You can't judge a genre of music based on statistics. Music is an artistic form of auditory communication that can intertwine with one's life. Everyone has different tastes, and if one dislikes a certain genre of music, then you need to propose a decent legitimate argument to support your thesis. It seems like you are not analyzing the music itself, but you are relying on fundamental statistics to oppose hip-hop?? Rap and the hip hop culture was founded on people who vent their anger by rapping poetry about their experiences/horrors/problems. If you ever listened to a song by Nas, he discusses about his life on the streets, the problematic situations he had to live through. One man with one mic facing the vibe of a crowd on a stage is more difficult than some punk-ass band you love (Probably O.A.R. since you're more white than Ryan Seacrest.)

You have much to learn.

No, honestly, does anyone come here to talk music or is it just a place to argue who's e-cock is bigger?

The second option.
The one with the e-cock.

gaaaaaaaaah wrote:
The second option.
The one with the e-cock.

you have So much to listen to.

Dojokoto wrote:

gaaaaaaaaah wrote:
The second option.
The one with the e-cock.

you have So much to listen to.

My views on hip hop aren't particularly controversial.

I like some of it, and don't like a larger amount of it.

mjobrien wrote:
No, honestly, does anyone come here to talk music or is it just a place to argue who's e-cock is bigger?

we talk about good music, hence the tangents this thread has gone on.



edit: now that i've got my cheap shot in, i can comment on the music.  interesting, although occasionally uneven: at times there is a rich re-working of the original material (pretty piano), at others there is merely a kick/snare combo added underneath.  i wouldn't call this a hip hop album, more like a remix album.  worth the download.

Dojokoto wrote:

Julian, wrote:

Dojokoto wrote:
HAHAHAHA, I'm sorry what? Hip Hop is poor people music? You must be the most ignorant, uneducated people I've ever met. Hip Hop isn't poor people music, YOU sound like you're part of the poor people renegade. Jesus Christ, I had to see it to believe it.

What can you expect from a white person named "Julian, Certified Weblebrity"

The popularity of hiphop in a community, along with standardized test scores, levels of obesity, occurrences of teenage pregnancy, and military enlistment rates all directly correlate to community income levels. Try taking the statistics class in your Dangerous Minds-esque public high school, if one is offered, and become educated yourself on topics before your spout off at the mouth.

Oh, and by the way, if you're still trying to get a ticket for VFest Baltimore, I see VFest Montreal still has tickets available, which you can no doubt use! Better! Get! On It!!

Alright, so you are basing your decision off a correlation of standardized test scores, and the popularity of hiphop? I'm going to admit that rap these days is pure vile. The average teenage-esque audience will love a song about obtaining cars and money, and the occasional "half-naked ladies up in the pool." Have you ever listened to a song by Rakim? Nas? Atmopshere? Aesop Rock? Grandmaster Flash? You can't judge a genre of music based on statistics. Music is an artistic form of auditory communication that can intertwine with one's life. Everyone has different tastes, and if one dislikes a certain genre of music, then you need to propose a decent legitimate argument to support your thesis. It seems like you are not analyzing the music itself, but you are relying on fundamental statistics to oppose hip-hop?? Rap and the hip hop culture was founded on people who vent their anger by rapping poetry about their experiences/horrors/problems. If you ever listened to a song by Nas, he discusses about his life on the streets, the problematic situations he had to live through. One man with one mic facing the vibe of a crowd on a stage is more difficult than some punk-ass band you love (Probably O.A.R. since you're more white than Ryan Seacrest.)

Any argument you make is rendered irrelevant by your hilarious assumption that a ticket purchased for Rams Head Live will get you into 9:30.  Please move to the back of the line.

mjobrien wrote:
No, honestly, does anyone come here to talk music or is it just a place to argue who's e-cock is bigger?

3% show listings/asking seth to book certain bands, 7% cat pictures, 90% e-cock fights.

sweetcell wrote:

mjobrien wrote:
No, honestly, does anyone come here to talk music or is it just a place to argue who's e-cock is bigger?

we talk about good music, hence the tangents this thread has gone on.



edit: now that i've got my cheap shot in, i can comment on the music. 

No, sweetcell, this is how we cheapshot:

mjobrien wrote:
What's good 930 followers?

Not your record.

Thanks for listening, Sweetcell, I appreciate the feedback.  I like your insight on the "non hip-hop-iness" of the record.  The beat maker is a hip-hop producer and I'm a Neil fan pushing him to expand his boundaries and with that the songs don't come off sounding like straight up Rza beats.  For years he's been making 1 minute "loops" which, in all honesty are hotter than the remixes, but I encouraged him to branch out and experiment.

I'm with you with the "pretty piano" comment- the highlights of the album, in my opinion, come from string quartet & piano tributes mixed into originals.  Hence, Southern Man and Heart of Gold being strong points on the album.  Ohio also does this but it's a quick & simple ditty.

Mere kick/snare combo?  You must be referring to Cortez the Killer which I admit doesn't stray too far from the original.  In defense, it's almost as if we're acting the part of Crazy Horse: playing a simple backdrop while Neil goes to town.  We tried upping the track a little bit by adding a trumpet player, but it's not as effective as Heart of Gold.

Another example of the lack of re-working is A Man Needs A Maid, which we cut in about 40 minutes, but I feel is the most hip-hop sounding track on the record. Sped up orchestra sample? Yes sir.

I enjoyed your comments, though.  It's more useful to hear honest opinions rather than "good work dude." Nice cheap-shot, by the way.  :)