callat703
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Re: first 10 random songs on your ipod
April 26, 2006 at 03:37 PM UTC
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1. The Unicorns - "Sea Ghost"
2. The Beatles - "All You Need Is Love"
3. Red Hot Chili Peppers - "Tear"
4. U2 - "So Cruel"
5. Weezer - "No One Else"
6. Ryan Adams & The Cardinals - "What Sin"
7. Decibully - "Notes to our Leaders"
8. Green Day - "St. Jimmy"
9. Thursday - "I Am The Killer"
10. Aqueduct - "Tension"
BookerT
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Re: first 10 random songs on your ipod
April 26, 2006 at 03:42 PM UTC
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ghost deini – ghostface killah
she turns to flowers – salvation army
i don't believe you – bob dylan
rasta man – lee perry
masterfade – andrew bird
slaves – pink mountaintops
splashing along – jesse garon & desperadoes
black out – pavement
do you know how it feels to be lonesome? – the international submarine band
forget – mission of burma
eros
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Re: first 10 random songs on your ipod
April 26, 2006 at 03:59 PM UTC
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"Another Lonely Christmas" - Prince
"Roll Up and Shine" - Sterophonics
"Live Forever" - Oasis
"Halley's Waitress" - Fountains of Wayne
"Climbing Up the Walls" - Radiohead
"Twisted Logic" - Coldplay
"Bring on the Dancing Horses" - Echo & the Bunnymen
"We Just Won't Be Defeated" - The Go! Team
"Another Invented Disease" - Manic Street Preachers
"22 Grand Job" - The Rakes
ratioci nation
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Re: first 10 random songs on your ipod
April 26, 2006 at 04:32 PM UTC
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New Denial - The Good Life
Human Being - The Beta Band
Not For All The Love in the World - The Thrills
Quote Devout Unquote - Beauty Pill
On With The Show - Guided By Voices
Icarus Smicarus - Mclusky
Stars Everywhere - The High Strung
Portable Men's Society - Guided By Voices
La Robe A Parasol - Sixteen Horsepower
Wonderful Life - Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds
Big KC
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Re: first 10 random songs on your ipod
April 26, 2006 at 04:43 PM UTC
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has anyone noticed that the random shuffle isn't so random?
Most times, my first ten tracks include 2-3 cuts off the same album.
Apple made a fix for this in the latest itunes, but it hasn't made a difference…
ggw
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Re: first 10 random songs on your ipod
April 26, 2006 at 05:33 PM UTC
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Originally posted by Big KC:
has anyone noticed that the random shuffle isn't so random?
Most times, my first ten tracks include 2-3 cuts off the same album.
Apple made a fix for this in the latest itunes, but it hasn't made a difference…
No sooner did converts load their libraries onto the shiny new devices than they discovered a new deficiency: The randomization feature seemed anything but, well, random. Sure, "I Got the Blues" no longer played back to back with "Bitch," but two songs later, the Rolling Stones were back, and three tunes after that they were back again.
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when I ran my 2,700-song playlist through the program, it didn't take long to find the same lack of variety. Song No. 4 in the list was "Bleeding Heart Disease," a tune off the first album by the Southern punk rock band The Dexateens. Song No. 6 comes from the same CD.
My playlist has a total of 17 songs by the band, so it seemed highly unlikely that two of them would be bunched so close together in a random order. But I was wrong about that.
The problem, it turns out, isn't that the programs aren't randomizing my playlists. They are. According to Jeff Lait, a mathematician and author of randomm3u, it's what's happening between my ears, specifically, in my expectations of what it means for something to be random.
To illustrate his point, Lait referred to a phenomenon statisticians call the birthday paradox. Roughly stated, it holds that if there are 23 randomly selected people in a room, there is a better than 50-50 chance that at least two of them will have the same birthday. The point: Mathematical randomness often contradicts our intuitive expectations of randomness.
What we want, Lait says, isn't a list that's been randomized, but one that's been stratified, or separated into categories that are weighted by a listener's preferences. A stratified playlist might select songs randomly but would be smart enough to throw out choices that, say, would repeat a band within 10 songs. My iPod for A Random Playlist
callat703
Joined: May 25, 2005 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: first 10 random songs on your ipod
April 26, 2006 at 05:37 PM UTC
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
To illustrate his point, Lait referred to a phenomenon statisticians call the birthday paradox. Roughly stated, it holds that if there are 23 randomly selected people in a room, there is a better than 50-50 chance that at least two of them will have the same birthday. The point: Mathematical randomness often contradicts our intuitive expectations of randomness.
This is true; I've seen it done as an experiment a few times. I have ZERO idea why this works mathematically though.
chi.m.lee
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Re: first 10 random songs on your ipod
April 26, 2006 at 07:00 PM UTC
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Roxy Music â?? Flesh And Blood
The Fall â?? The Littlest Rebel
France Gall â?? Pense a Moi
Serge Gainsbourg â?? Ballade De Melody Nelson
Emmylou Harris â?? Where Will I Be?
Gemma Hayes â?? Holy Places
Whiskeytown â?? Jacksonville Skyline
Kirsty MacColl â?? My Affair
Tindersticks â?? Tricklinâ??
Grandaddy â?? Chartsengrafs
ggw
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Re: first 10 random songs on your ipod
April 26, 2006 at 07:09 PM UTC
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"As Tears Go By" - The Rolling Stones
"Of Montreal" - The Stills
"Sick Boys" - Social Distortion
"Succexy" - Metric
"Sidekick" - Rancid
"Brickbat" - Billy Bragg
"Guilty of Being White" - Minor Threat
"Opiated" - The Tragically Hip
"Lola Stars and Stripes" - The Stills
"Dance Song '97" - Sleater Kinney
HoyaSaxa03
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Re: first 10 random songs on your ipod
April 26, 2006 at 07:13 PM UTC
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
"Guilty of Being White" - Minor Threat
dupek's anthem :D
woodleygrrl
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Re: first 10 random songs on your ipod
April 26, 2006 at 08:26 PM UTC
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One More Hour- Sleater-Kinney
The Stairs- INXS
Second Guessing- REM
Punks in the Beerlight- Silverjews
Neighborhood #3- Arcade Fire
Hey Ya!- Outkast
Act of the Apostle II- Belle and Sebastain
Harborcoat- REM
U.S. Mustard Company- Robert Pollard
The Devil- Urban Dance Squad
My first post, yo
brennser
Joined: October 21, 2002 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: first 10 random songs on your ipod
April 26, 2006 at 08:41 PM UTC
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Originally posted by woodleygrrl:
My first post, yo
stick to the restaurant reviews…….
….only kidding, welcome aboard!
brennser
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Re: first 10 random songs on your ipod
April 26, 2006 at 08:45 PM UTC
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I listen to a lot more recently released music than these 10 suggest!
Tar Kisses - Throwing Muses
Conjure Me - The Afghan Whigs
Shake - Kristin Hersh
Spit It Out - Brendan Benson
Made of Stone - The Stone Roses
Is She Weird? - Pixies
Credit in the Straight World - Young Marble Giants
Savage Earth Heart - The Waterboys
You Keep on Lyin - Hoods
bigyellow100
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Re: first 10 random songs on your ipod
April 26, 2006 at 08:52 PM UTC
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my new shuffle:
!!! - take ecstacy with me
a camp - song for the leftovers
ghostface killah feat. wu-tang clan - 9 milli bros.
2pac feat outlawz - hit em up
jay-z - money ain't a thang
modest mouse - worms vs. birds
rilo kiley - science vs. romance
guns n' roses - mr. brownstone
the shins - turn a stone
the cardigans - losing a friend
hmmm…i never really thought that the random mode for itunes wasnt really random. but now that i think about it, it seems as though the songs of the artists that i listen to most often repeat quite frequently, not that the first 10 are indicative of the artists i listen to all the time (well maybe the cardigans…they are my guilty pleasure, early stuff anyway).
kmb187
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Re: first 10 random songs on your ipod
April 26, 2006 at 09:37 PM UTC
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1. "Proud"–Tegan and Sara
2. "Dr. Blind"–Metric
3. "Intuition" (Live)–Feist
4. "Changes Are No Good"–The Stills
5. "Weekend (James Iha Mix)"–Ladytron
6. "Empty" (Live)–Metric
7. "Your Call"–The Concretes
8. "Last One Standing (Shipps & Tait Mix)"–Ladytron
9. "Tinfoil"–Rainer Maria
10. "Head's Too Big"–The Ditty Bops