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Space wrote:

evilizac wrote:
That is true and I do be forgetting about Rhizome.
I should have learned from the time that I forgot about Dre.

Funny you should mention him. The postal worker who provided excellent service for me recently told me she went to high school with the actor who played the good Dr. in Straight Outta Compton.

How many Kevin Bacons is this?

Hutch wrote:
It’s a complicated issue….with lots of little pieces

In todays world were it’s arguably more expensive to live in DC than NYC the minute you are serious about music you are moving to Brooklyn. Or even Richmond or Baltimore. But bands been moving to NYC since Duke Ellington. It’s so close it’s very doable.
And it works both ways: all the NYC, Philly etc acts can easily play DC so DC acts maybe get crowded out. We are the opposite of say an Athens or Chapel Hill which were rather insular music scenes…our scene is so porous it can’t really develop an identity
Then there is the whole Dischord scene “overhang”…..I feel like for a good while in this area either you were a part of that scene or you were out. Not just with Ian and Disvhord but even his sister Amanda was managing bands I think (like the Apes?) and booking Ft Reno (??). And when the Dischord thing kind of died down it feels like nothing really replaced it. It’s hard to replace something that was so big…


Just spitballing

Tell that to my college roommate, whose tiny 1BR condo in Brooklyn is worth over a million.

The cost of living in Washington, DC is -18.0% lower than in Brooklyn, NY.
https://www.salary.com/research/cost-of-living/compare/brooklyn-ny/washington-dc#:~:text=The%20cost%20of%20living%20in%20Washington%2C%20DC%20is%20%2D18.0%25,your%20current%20standard%20of%20living.

Cost of Living Comparison Between New York, NY and Washington, DC. You would need around 8,149.5$ in Washington, DC to maintain the same standard of life that you can have with 11,000.0$ in New York, NY (assuming you rent in both cities).
https://www.numbeo.com/cost-of-living/compare_cities.jsp?country1=United+States&city1=New+York%2C+NY&country2=United+States&city2=Washington%2C+DC#:~:text=Cost%20of%20Living%20Comparison%20Between%20New%20York%2C%20NY%20and%20Washington,you%20rent%20in%20both%20cities).

It’s not an absolute but I think it’s on a par and trending more expensive in DC.

Brooklyn is obviously an expensive place within NYC.

Anyway the point is there are a lot of advantages to NYC for developing a music career and DC which used to be much more affordable just isn’t. So what are the advantages to living in DC if interested in a music career?

What is exactly more costly wasn’t the most important point I was trying to make

Throws hands up in air

I mean NYC has record labels, studios, agents and a whole music infrastructure that DC does not?

And we rent out a junior one bedroom in Logan/Dupont for like $1800 a month. JUNIOR!!

I think Seth should let all local bands swim in that secret swimming pool for one hour a year like they let the staff in Caddyshack. It just might fix everything.

I mean there are local bands all the time. One of my favorites is Outer Body Llama and I have announced their shows here like 10 times and not once has anybody expressed interest by or expressed anything  actually. They usually play three hour shows of original material with no cover and ten people show up.

If you want local bands you got to go see them. Just whining about the local scene sucking doesn’t do anything.

Maybe we need a local bands thread where people hype up local band shows?

Julian, wrote:
I think Seth should let all local bands swim in that secret swimming pool for one hour a year like they let the staff in Caddyshack. It just might fix everything.

I think when new order played last they shared a picture of themselves at the pool so wasn’t a secret to me….

Hutch wrote:

Julian, wrote:
I think Seth should let all local bands swim in that secret swimming pool for one hour a year like they let the staff in Caddyshack. It just might fix everything.

I think when new order played last they shared a picture of themselves at the pool so wasn’t a secret to me….

Not really interested in the New Order pool pics, but do you think Maggie Rogers, Laufey, or Janelle Monae will be sharing their pool pics?

I think it’s very unusual for anybody to share pool pics. In the case of new order I think it was just a pic of the pool.

Hutch wrote:

Julian, wrote:
I think Seth should let all local bands swim in that secret swimming pool for one hour a year like they let the staff in Caddyshack. It just might fix everything.

I think when new order played last they shared a picture of themselves at the pool so wasn’t a secret to me….

Well it’s secret to most people. You obvious are a man who is “in the know.”

The algorithms just delivered these extremely relevant links to my feed:

https://www.listenlocalfirst.com/
https://www.dcmusiccensus.org/

Space wrote:

Hutch wrote:

Julian, wrote:
I think Seth should let all local bands swim in that secret swimming pool for one hour a year like they let the staff in Caddyshack. It just might fix everything.

I think when new order played last they shared a picture of themselves at the pool so wasn’t a secret to me….

Not really interested in the New Order pool pics, but do you think Maggie Rogers, Laufey, or Janelle Monae will be sharing their pool pics?

new order are probably the kind of guys that wear black jeans to the beach and if they touch water, most likely swim in t shirts.

Ha ha in 1980!!

Bernard is quite the sailor now…you wouldn’t think it though

It’s just unfair to say Atlantis doesn’t have local acts playing. Maybe you are just not paying attention. This just popped up on my facebook



And I will add that anything Ben Tufts is doing you should pay attention….if you really want to support local music and it’s not just lip service

Hutch wrote:
It’s just unfair to say Atlantis doesn’t have local acts playing. Maybe you are just not paying attention.

I dunno, I think that's the exception, can't say I've dug deep on everyone, but I'd say less that 5% of openers are local
although it's typical for openers at small clubs to be local, that's nothing new

Ok fine… I opened Facebook and stumbled on an exception. What are the odds? Apparently 5%.

This charge which boils down to IMP prioritizing the bottom line over the community goes back decades…I remember hanging out with you at the black cat and hearing grousing about the 930 mixed in with some good old fashioned anti-semitism. That was close to 30 years ago. It’s all bunk. There are so many things IMP does for DC but you never hear about them. Success engenders jealousy. Heck even our friends Outer Body Llama got booked by IMP before they got banned cause the crowd got a bit crazy.

I don’t see the old booking contact info on the 930 site. I will say that….i guess one could email human@930.com or call

Like if you are a local band hoping to play an IMP venue where do you go but I know two recent ish cases of local acts that played 930 …Sketchy Pete (DJ, was there) and I think a guy I knows local band played Atlantis…

Of course we saw Ex Hex at 930.

I would agree if you are just starting probably Atlantis ain’t going to work but as I posted yesterday I think there was a showcase for young acts at 932

Did not have “out-of-left-field antisemitism allegations” on my 930.com bingo card for this week.

Julian, wrote:
Did not have “out-of-left-field antisemitism allegations” on my 930.com bingo card for this week.

Hey dude, it happened…. I heard it and it made an impression on me.

Not sure pretending it’s not there is a great play…not sure what makes it out of left field …it’s not uncommon for people to tie in maximizing profit as a bad thing  with Jews wherever they can… goes back at least 500 years