roger waters : amused to needing a gig?

Seen Pink Floyd 4 times and Roger Waters 2 times. Out of all of them, the best show was Roger Waters performing The Wall in Berlin in 90.
Originally posted by Hoya Saxa 03, 08:
can someone explain how pink floyd is one of the most popular bands in the world
if you can explain why the Beach Boys are. :)
So how is the new Gilmour solo album?
Originally posted by edbert:
So how is the new Gilmour solo album?
It's great. Polarized (Roger vs. Dave) Pink Floyd fans will absolutely hate it. But it stands on it's own as a solid album from start to finish.
Originally posted by Mike Rohsopht:
if you can explain why the Beach Boys are. :)
come on now, they distill pop music to its basics … pitch perfect harmonies and hooky melodies that stick in your head for weeks … sure they have plenty of crap, but their great stuff is incredible … not too hard to see why casual music fans would eat them up
Originally posted by Hoya Saxa 03, 08:
Originally posted by Mike Rohsopht:
if you can explain why the Beach Boys are. :)
come on now, they distill pop music to its basics … pitch perfect harmonies and hooky melodies that stick in your head for weeks … sure they have plenty of crap, but their great stuff is incredible … not too hard to see why casual music fans would eat them up
fair enough.

and Pink Floyd took the music that Beach Boys fans and the like thought was "too hard to understand" "boring" "slow" "sad" whatever, and made it something that all human ears can listen to.

its the same for the Beastie Boys….they made white people all over the world say "hey!!! we can listen to rap music too!"

(yes, i just compared the Beastie Boys to Pink Floyd)
Originally posted by Mike Rohsopht:
and Pink Floyd took the music that Beach Boys fans and the like thought was "too hard to understand" "boring" "slow" "sad" whatever, and made it something that all human ears can listen to.
so your point is that pink floyd is the only (or one of the only) prog band to make their music accessible to the masses?

i'm beating a dead horse now, but i feel like you're missing my point … which is only that i find it a bit odd that nearly every casual classic rock fan LOVES pink floyd, even though their sound is so different from traditional rock

don't get me wrong, i think it's cool that so many people listen to floyd, i've just always wondered how/why so many millions of people get into floyd when the rest of the stuff they listen to is traditional, riff-heavy, 4 min, verse/chorus/verse stuff
Originally posted by Hoya Saxa 03, 08:
Originally posted by Mike Rohsopht:
and Pink Floyd took the music that Beach Boys fans and the like thought was "too hard to understand" "boring" "slow" "sad" whatever, and made it something that all human ears can listen to.
so your point is that pink floyd is the only (or one of the only) prog band to make their music accessible to the masses?

i'm beating a dead horse now, but i feel like you're missing my point … which is only that i find it a bit odd that nearly every casual classic rock fan LOVES pink floyd, even though their sound is so different from traditional rock

don't get me wrong, i think it's cool that so many people listen to floyd, i've just always wondered how/why so many millions of people get into floyd when the rest of the stuff they listen to is traditional, riff-heavy, 4 min, verse/chorus/verse stuff
1. my point is that Pink Floyd has made this sort of music MOST accessible and probably earlier than most others.

you know nearly every classic rock fan?

i am not sure you really have a point….which was my whole point with the beach boys comment in the first place.
Originally posted by Hoya Saxa 03, 08:
Originally posted by Mike Rohsopht:
and Pink Floyd took the music that Beach Boys fans and the like thought was "too hard to understand" "boring" "slow" "sad" whatever, and made it something that all human ears can listen to.
so your point is that pink floyd is the only (or one of the only) prog band to make their music accessible to the masses?

i'm beating a dead horse now, but i feel like you're missing my point … which is only that i find it a bit odd that nearly every casual classic rock fan LOVES pink floyd, even though their sound is so different from traditional rock

don't get me wrong, i think it's cool that so many people listen to floyd, i've just always wondered how/why so many millions of people get into floyd when the rest of the stuff they listen to is traditional, riff-heavy, 4 min, verse/chorus/verse stuff
I don't think this is a fair statement. When Pink Floyd got really big, the market was much more open to more exploratory music. Look at the success of bands like Rush, Yes or Styx. Rush is one of the best selling bands in the history of music. What about the other more psychedelic, proggy stuff from the 70s? Zappa, Bowie - there is some really dense stuff on a lot of Bowie's albums. To distill the 70s or classic rock down to AC/DC isn't really a fair evaluation of the situation.

I think the market was just different at the time when Floyd came out, and the fact that they had singles that were more accessible than the aforementioned bands - see "Money," "Wish You Were Here," "Another Brick in the Wall Pt 2," and so forth - they caught on more readily.
Originally posted by callat703:
I don't think this is a fair statement. When Pink Floyd got really big, the market was much more open to more exploratory music.
fair enough, good points …
My favorite quote is from "Amused to Death"

"Preacher or Poet who was it wrote, give any one species too much rope and they will fuck it up"

Things you learn in college…take "Amused to Death" and sync it to "Beyond the Mind's Eye" and it rolls right along with it perfectly.

The new Gilmour album sounds like classic Floyd to me.

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Originally posted by Mike Rohsopht:
Originally posted by walkonby:
Originally posted by eros:
September 23 at the oft-maligned Nissan Pavilion.
really? oh, i thought this was one of those select city gigs. damn . . . now i'm going to have to go see it. after all that bitching i just did, this show will probably be a once in time chance to see waters live.
the band sucks, the venue sucks, the music industry sucks…but i'll go anyway!
I rest my case
Would it shock you to hear that I like classic rock (more than indie rock) but hate Pink Floyd?

Originally posted by Hoya Saxa 03, 08:
Originally posted by Mike Rohsopht:
and Pink Floyd took the music that Beach Boys fans and the like thought was "too hard to understand" "boring" "slow" "sad" whatever, and made it something that all human ears can listen to.
so your point is that pink floyd is the only (or one of the only) prog band to make their music accessible to the masses?

i'm beating a dead horse now, but i feel like you're missing my point … which is only that i find it a bit odd that nearly every casual classic rock fan LOVES pink floyd, even though their sound is so different from traditional rock

don't get me wrong, i think it's cool that so many people listen to floyd, i've just always wondered how/why so many millions of people get into floyd when the rest of the stuff they listen to is traditional, riff-heavy, 4 min, verse/chorus/verse stuff
Originally posted by Charlie Nakajima, Fired by Mascis:
Would it shock you to hear that I like classic rock (more than indie rock) but hate Pink Floyd?
no, it would affirm my bewilderment
My wife summed up Pink Floyd quite well this morning by reflecting on Pink Floyd lyrics.

"Oh, my life is so hard. Life is so mysterious."
Originally posted by Charlie Nakajima, Fired by Mascis:
My wife summed up Pink Floyd quite well this morning by reflecting on Pink Floyd lyrics.

"Oh, my life is so hard. Life is so mysterious."
Now that's a limiting statement.
Roger Waters modifies Germany show in response to Nazi lawsuit

Roger Waters - Frankfurt: https://youtu.be/Rv2gyFhmVqI