So what do y'all think of Helen Thomas' comments?

So Israel is opening some of their restrictions on goods the palestinians are allowed to have now they can get:

soda, juice, jam, spices, shaving cream, potato chips, cookies and candy.

Really how can anyone think Israel isn't in the wrong in this situation?
By restricting most of those items, they were doing the Palestinians a favor.

And it's not like they use shaving cream anyway.

atomicfront wrote:
So Israel is opening some of their restrictions on goods the palestinians are allowed to have now they can get:

soda, juice, jam, spices, shaving cream, potato chips, cookies and candy.

Really how can anyone think Israel isn't in the wrong in this situation?
what about spices?

That's why I said most.

Though of course I was being facetious anyway.

godsshoeshine wrote:
what about spices?


The palestinians need a martin luther king to lead them peacefully and rationally.  The character of their leadership is predicated on deception and a murderous desire.  Why should it not be assumed that this is the true vharacter of palestinians?  How many 9/11s has israel been subject to?  I believe if change comes within the palestinians apparoach their lot will change.  Israel makes mistakes but they act in self-defense.  How did you feel after 9/11? 
i didnt want to take away spices, thats for sure
Sometimes, when my grandpa says disparaging things about "Japs" and "Krauts", I let it slide beecause I never had millions of them tyring to kill me, so I'm just not sure how quickly I could forgive and forget that stuff.

Maybe Israel tried to kill Helen Thomas at some point in her life?
Mobius wrote:
The character of their leadership is predicated on deception and a murderous desire.




"But seriously folks, we're gonna find those WMDs and when we do, I'm going mountain biking."
Mobius wrote:
The palestinians need a martin luther king to lead them peacefully and rationally.  The character of their leadership is predicated on deception and a murderous desire.  Why should it not be assumed that this is the true vharacter of palestinians?  How many 9/11s has israel been subject to?  I believe if change comes within the palestinians apparoach their lot will change.  Israel makes mistakes but they act in self-defense.  How did you feel after 9/11? 


Israel became a country by doing 9/11 type activities.  Why do you think the British left?
Mobius wrote:
The palestinians need a martin luther king to lead them peacefully and rationally. 

agreed.  israelis could use one too (re: the radicals and right-wing sabre-rattlers who control the knesset).

Mobius wrote:
The character of their leadership is predicated on deception and a murderous desire.  Why should it not be assumed that this is the true vharacter of palestinians? 

only as much as incessant claims of victimhood is the true character of israelis?  i.e., it's not.  stop spreading hate.

Mobius wrote:
How many 9/11s has israel been subject to? 

i'm not sure, haven't counted, but i suspect it's in the same league as the number that the palestinians have suffered at the hands of the IDF (and the occasional armed settler).

both sides have been treating each other like shit, and both blame each other.  quit claiming the moral high-ground - there is none in this mess.

atomicfront wrote:
Israel became a country by doing 9/11 type activities.  Why do you think the British left?

unfortunately, the time horizon for people in this conflict doesn't reach back that far.
both sides are clearly at fault here, but one side has tanks and the other doesnt even have cookies
sweetcell wrote:
Mobius wrote:
The palestinians need a martin luther king to lead them peacefully and rationally. 

agreed.  israelis could use one too (re: the radicals and right-wing sabre-rattlers who control the knesset).

Mobius wrote:
The character of their leadership is predicated on deception and a murderous desire.  Why should it not be assumed that this is the true vharacter of palestinians? 

only as much as incessant claims of victimhood is the true character of israelis?  i.e., it's not.  stop spreading hate.

Mobius wrote:
How many 9/11s has israel been subject to? 

i'm not sure, haven't counted, but i suspect it's in the same league as the number that the palestinians have suffered at the hands of the IDF (and the occasional armed settler).

both sides have been treating each other like shit, and both blame each other.  quit claiming the moral high-ground - there is none in this mess.

atomicfront wrote:
Israel became a country by doing 9/11 type activities.  Why do you think the British left?

unfortunately, the time horizon for people in this conflict doesn't reach back that far.



All of this.