If you really really hated your job, almost everything about it, and finally you get a new job, for a small pay increase. and when you told your old job the news of your departure, they asked how much you would be making at the new place. When you decided to lie and tell them $10K MORE than you were actually hired at the new place for so they wouldnt try to match, they matched that number for you to stay….what would you do?
What would you do?
Who knew Taco Bell was paying its assistant managers so much money…….
any chance they can fix what you hate about the current job?
Originally posted by sonickteam4:In my experience, $10K covers a multitude of sins [unless we're talking $10K Canadian, in which case it covers the cost of dinner for two].
When you decided to lie and tell them $10K MORE than you were actually hired at the new place for so they wouldnt try to match, they matched that number for you to stay….what would you do?
Run away from the hated old job because:
1. you misrepresented the pay increase, so you would be going forward at the old job based on a lie;
2. if they really had $10k more to spend on you, they should have given you at least part of that prior to your telling them you are leaving.
3. you really hate the old job, remember.
1. you misrepresented the pay increase, so you would be going forward at the old job based on a lie;
2. if they really had $10k more to spend on you, they should have given you at least part of that prior to your telling them you are leaving.
3. you really hate the old job, remember.
Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:well, no, probably not. no vacation time, no one to help do your work (so if you DO get some leave, you just have more work to do when you get back). antiquated computers and obnoxious co-workers.
any chance they can fix what you hate about the current job?
this is not my problem, btw.
If they're throwing an extra $10K at you, they're going to expect a lot more from you. That'll probably result in you hating the job even more.
Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:agree strongly with bombay…also, they could just use it as a ploy to keep you around while they scramble to fill your position. furthermore, knowing that you're unhappy makes for an even worse work environment. when i was job hunting, a couple of books stated explicitly that you should never accept a counteroffer from your current employer, no matter how sweet the deal.
If they're throwing an extra $10K at you, they're going to expect a lot more from you. That'll probably result in you hating the job even more.
I agree with Challenged: Take the new job. However, your friend should make sure he/she isn't taking what they hate about old job to the new job with 'em…i.e., they basically hate what they're doing for a living…and will be just as miserable at the new place. More money isn't worth accepting misery!…and keep playing the lottery. :D Lots of money and no job isn't too bad from what I hear.
Originally posted by sonickteam4:
Kinda like my friend says it hurts when he pees?
this is not my problem, btw.
it also depends on what pay increases loom in the future for the new job
cool, thanks for the input everyone.
I most agree with the counteroffer being a ploy to keep you while searching to fill the position.
This place is a tiny mom/pop co. and i doubt could ask any more of her than they already do, but its a good point that in 3 weeks, dude could say, "later bitch, cause i found your replacement!"
plus, going from a designer pos. to a manager position (at a comic book company no less!) is really cooler, even its less money. but room for advancement is defintely more possible at new position
(i wish employers were fighting over me, but alas, my visa is running out!)
I most agree with the counteroffer being a ploy to keep you while searching to fill the position.
This place is a tiny mom/pop co. and i doubt could ask any more of her than they already do, but its a good point that in 3 weeks, dude could say, "later bitch, cause i found your replacement!"
plus, going from a designer pos. to a manager position (at a comic book company no less!) is really cooler, even its less money. but room for advancement is defintely more possible at new position
(i wish employers were fighting over me, but alas, my visa is running out!)
Congrats Sonick…
Take the new job and enjoy the raise and the extra leave.
Take the new job and enjoy the raise and the extra leave.
Originally posted by Fine French Chaz:its my girlfriend, not me. But i am sure to enjoy a happier woman at my house every evening. and thats priceless!
Congrats Sonick…
Take the new job and enjoy the raise and the extra leave.
Originally posted by sonickteam4:Tell me about it.
Originally posted by Fine French Chaz:its my girlfriend, not me. But i am sure to enjoy a happier woman at my house every evening. and thats priceless!
Congrats Sonick…
Take the new job and enjoy the raise and the extra leave.
Originally posted by sonickteam4:She will be working nights?
its my girlfriend, not me. But i am sure to enjoy a happier woman at my house every evening. and thats priceless!
Originally posted by ggwâ?¢::) nice….
Originally posted by sonickteam4:She will be working nights?
its my girlfriend, not me. But i am sure to enjoy a happier woman at my house every evening. and thats priceless!
What sucks about when your current job gives you a counter-offer is that they may be totally pissed if you don't take it. My first job out of college wouldn't accept my resignation, made me a counter-offer, and kept asking my for reasons to explain why I was leaving. They wouldn't accept any of my reasons and kept asking for more and me being a stupid guy going through his first resignation kept telling them reasons. Needless to say I would never be able to get a good recommendation from that company…even though their persistance in trying to keep me on showed how much they liked me.
Anyway…when resigning, the less said the better. Don't tell how much the new place is offering. Don't give your reasons for leaving.
Anyway…when resigning, the less said the better. Don't tell how much the new place is offering. Don't give your reasons for leaving.
Originally posted by sonickteam4:I was going to ask if the "new" job is something of more interest. Sounds like it. There's a pay increase being offered, so best of both worlds.
This place is a tiny mom/pop co. and i doubt could ask any more of her than they already do, but its a good point that in 3 weeks, dude could say, "later bitch, cause i found your replacement!"
Since she hasn't been happy at the present job, $10k will only be a band-aid and cause mental flip-flops.
Originally posted by sonickteam4:There's a reason she went looking in the first place, eh?
But i am sure to enjoy a happier woman at my house every evening. and thats priceless!
;)
Originally posted by Chip Chanko:Yeah, there's no clean break-up ala Seinfeld. ;)
Anyway…when resigning, the less said the better. Don't tell how much the new place is offering. Don't give your reasons for leaving.
Didnt this situation crop up on the board before?
Didn't the person tell the new employer about the counter offer, and then didn't the new employer match it? I dont think it would hurt to be semi-honest with the future employer.
"I really want this new job, but my old employer has offered me $XXX"
Didn't the person tell the new employer about the counter offer, and then didn't the new employer match it? I dont think it would hurt to be semi-honest with the future employer.
"I really want this new job, but my old employer has offered me $XXX"