Good to see a bunch of Radiohead fans on here. This should help me keep up more with their stuff. I stopped Kid A for some reason though. Still enjoy their music but don't go out of my way to buy it.
Talk Show Host is the greatest B-Side ever recorded
Yeah, Radiohead used to be b-side kings. I have one or two epic mixes I've made out of their b-sides.
@Ardamus - defintely pick up "Amnesiac" and "Hail To The Thief" - they're great. "In Rainbows" is their weakest release IMHO.
@Ardamus - defintely pick up "Amnesiac" and "Hail To The Thief" - they're great. "In Rainbows" is their weakest release IMHO.
"Slow Death (live at Scala Cinema)" by Leather Nun may be my pick for greatest B-side of all time though.
Thousand wrote:
I believe Amnesiac is a collection of Kid A songs that didn't make the cut. I consider them b-sides, although it is an official album release.
I feel dumber for having read this
kosmo wrote:
And because this is an anal bunch.. Butterfly Collector may technically be a double A-side as it was paired with another non album track… And before somebody goes wikipedia on my ass, The Jam's moronic US label released the song as the a-side
To get REALLY anal about it, like you said, "The Butterfly Collector" was a B-side in the U.K., an A-side in America. So "Strange Town"/"The Butterfly Collector" wasn't a true Double A-side on either side of the Atlantic. In terms of Jam singles, "David Watts"/"'A' Bomb in Wardour Street" is a double A-side.
And just because a single has two non-album tracks on it, doesn't make it a double A-side. I give you half of every single The Smiths released.
Brian
Was rushing to leave this morning so didn't get the opportunity to determine if Butterfly Collector was a double a-side or not. Regardless it's one of the greatest non album releases ever! Take that radiohead fans :p
fatskippy wrote:Thousand wrote:
I believe Amnesiac is a collection of Kid A songs that didn't make the cut. I consider them b-sides, although it is an official album release.
I feel dumber for having read this
That's because you're a moron. Radiohead got together and said "we are recording an album." They called it Kid A. They did not convene to record Amnesiac, but instead released an album's worth of outtakes or b-sides. Get it?
Thousand wrote:fatskippy wrote:Thousand wrote:
I believe Amnesiac is a collection of Kid A songs that didn't make the cut. I consider them b-sides, although it is an official album release.
I feel dumber for having read this
That's because you're a moron. Radiohead got together and said "we are recording an album." They called it Kid A. They did not convene to record Amnesiac, but instead released an album's worth of outtakes or b-sides. Get it?
I'm not going to argue with some mouth breathing hipster over the internet, but Kid A and Amnesiac have a completely different sound and mood to them. Just because they were recorded in the same period and Kid A released first, does not make Amnesiac a collection of b-sides.
Thousand wrote:
Radiohead got together and said "we are recording an album." They called it Kid A. They did not convene to record Amnesiac, but instead released an album's worth of outtakes or b-sides.
incorrect. they went in to the studio, recorded a bunch of music over several months, and then picked the tracks that made up Kid A - with the full intention of releasing the rest as a second album, which became Amnesiac. Amnesiac is not a collection of Kid A rejects, they were meant for full release - just not right away. the band considered releasing a double album but decided that would be too much for one sitting, and they felt the songs fell into two thematic groups.
i guess we need to define what a b-side is and isn't. for me, anything that appears for the first time on a full-length release cannot, by definition, be a b-side. for you, TMUL, it appears that b-sides include "anything recorded during a session that wasn't released immediately". not sure that many share that understanding.
In, Thousand Made-Up Lovers' defense, he's probably younger. He's probably never bought a physical single in his life.
And while in 2011, physical singles (whatever format) are rare or unknown, the term "B-side" persists even though you'd be hard pressed to go into a retail store right now and show somebody what a B-side is.
For younger people, 'B-side' probably represents "song that's not on the album" but even THAT concept is fading as we speak. The concept of "album." If someone under the age of 20 has Radiohead on their ipod, most probably don't have the full collection of songs that make up ANY Radiohead "album" as the band intended. They just have the popular songs. You know, the ones with verses and choruses. Not that later sub-Pink Floyd crap.
Brian
Brian_Wallace wrote:
In, Thousand Made-Up Lovers' defense, he's probably younger. He's probably never bought a physical single in his life.
And while in 2011, physical singles (whatever format) are rare or unknown, the term "B-side" persists even though you'd be hard pressed to go into a retail store right now and show somebody what a B-side is.
For younger people, 'B-side' probably represents "song that's not on the album" but even THAT concept is fading as we speak. The concept of "album." If someone under the age of 20 has Radiohead on their ipod, most probably don't have the full collection of songs that make up ANY Radiohead "album" as the band intended. They just have the popular songs. You know, the ones with verses and choruses. Not that later sub-Pink Floyd crap.
Brian
Brian, yes. I have bought a few singles. I bought the Jeremy single for Footsteps and Yellow Ledbetter, Dissident single for the live Atlanta 4-3-94 tracks on it and I also bought the B&S 3..6..9 Seconds of Light EP. But that's it. Needless to say, I bought the Jeremy single nine years ago and the B&S single in 2006. Obviously, the EP is not "b-sides".
I admit, I don't subscribe to the actual definition of a b-side as you older peeps do. As you said, I consider b-sides as "not on the actual album."
sweetcell wrote:
incorrect. they went in to the studio, recorded a bunch of music over several months, and then picked the tracks that made up Kid A - with the full intention of releasing the rest as a second album, which became Amnesiac. Amnesiac is not a collection of Kid A rejects, they were meant for full release - just not right away. the band considered releasing a double album but decided that would be too much for one sitting, and they felt the songs fell into two thematic groups.
I think that is a fair explanation. Thanks, and I stand corrected.
I find the term "non-album track" useful when discussing a song that is neither an A-side, B-side, or on a proper full-length album.
Aneurysm on the Smells Like Teen Spirit CD single was an awesome non-album track.
Mobius wrote:
Aneurysm on the Smells Like Teen Spirit CD single was an awesome non-album track.
Hell yeah, that's one of their best. Dive was great, too.
Thousand wrote:Mobius wrote:
Aneurysm on the Smells Like Teen Spirit CD single was an awesome non-album track.
Hell yeah, that's one of their best. Dive was great, too.
Absolutely . . .and a true B-side on the Sliver slngle . . .
Mobius wrote:Thousand wrote:Mobius wrote:
Aneurysm on the Smells Like Teen Spirit CD single was an awesome non-album track.
Hell yeah, that's one of their best. Dive was great, too.
Absolutely . . .and a true B-side on the Sliver slngle . . .
So "Sappy (Verse Chorus Verse)" and "I Hate Myself And Want to Die" aren't great B-sides (standard definition). They're great non-album tracks.
Brian
Brian_Wallace wrote:Mobius wrote:Thousand wrote:Mobius wrote:
Aneurysm on the Smells Like Teen Spirit CD single was an awesome non-album track.
Hell yeah, that's one of their best. Dive was great, too.
Absolutely . . .and a true B-side on the Sliver slngle . . .
So "Sappy (Verse Chorus Verse)" and "I Hate Myself And Want to Die" aren't great B-sides (standard definition). They're great non-album tracks.
Brian
you forgot to make fun of pink floyd.
walkonby wrote:Brian_Wallace wrote:Mobius wrote:Thousand wrote:Mobius wrote:
Aneurysm on the Smells Like Teen Spirit CD single was an awesome non-album track.
Hell yeah, that's one of their best. Dive was great, too.
Absolutely . . .and a true B-side on the Sliver slngle . . .
So "Sappy (Verse Chorus Verse)" and "I Hate Myself And Want to Die" aren't great B-sides (standard definition). They're great non-album tracks.
Brian
you forgot to make fun of pink floyd.
Nature's already taken care of that.
Brian