Maryland set to expand gay rights, same-sex marriage

Frank wrote:
I was being facetious that the traditional marriage of a man and a woman will soon be just a memory, because a precedent is being set (not that I personally care Walkonby so put your homophobe card away) so once it's lawful for same sex marriage the next thing that will happen is people will want to marry their pets, or in some cases mules, should they take a shine to them.

what we have here, folks, is a fine piece of conservative bullshit.

"i don't support the assault weapon ban, because next thing you know they'll be breaking down my door to take away my steak knives and sewing scissors".

"i don't support the right of blacks to vote, because next thing you know we'll be giving the vote to cats and dogs".

"i'm against health care reform, because it'll lead to forced drug prescriptions and death panels."

it's a common right-wing tactic: portray a change that is scary to them as a nonsensical slippery slope.  it makes sense to them, but only because they put their beliefs before logic or intellectual honesty.  bringing in animals is pure FUD. 

I refuse to believe that that comment was no more than a joke. Maybe a bit of satire.

i believe, that unless you are gay . . . your words/ideas/jokes means nothing to this conversation.  so go take your political based, religion based, heterosexual based opinion and fuck yourself.  we, as gay people, don't give a mule's ass what you think or need you to tell us how to live our lives.  again, unless you are gay, "shut up.  you've fucked up marriage for the past 1000 years . . . we don't need your help in what the definition is."

azaghal1981 wrote:
I refuse to believe that that comment was no more than a joke. Maybe a bit of satire.

Thank you! My god some people have a stick up their arse…(oops! There I go again!!!)

walkonby wrote:
i believe, that unless you are gay . . . your words/ideas/jokes means nothing to this conversation.  so go take your political based, religion based, heterosexual based opinion and fuck yourself.  we, as gay people, don't give a mule's ass what you think or need you to tell us how to live our lives.  again, unless you are gay, "shut up.  you've fucked up marriage for the past 1000 years . . . we don't need your help in what the definition is."

Hee hee - He almost said it's a gay thing, I wouldn't understand!

And if you want to be 'accepted by the mainstream' give up with the fucking rainbow stickers already. I don't give a monkeys who you sleep next to at night. Oh, and your gay pride nonesense? All you're doing is making a statement that you're different while demanding you are just the same. Just what do you want exactly?

I think we should all agree on this point.  Because honestly, who gives a fuck?

Frank wrote:
Another thing, if religions don't want to accept or acknowledge non-traditional marriages then that should be their right to do so without any recourse from society or government.

I guess the sticking point I always have is why people that it doesn't affect give a shit.  Aside from thinking that it does sound a bit homophobic, I wouldn't jump immediately to say Rat Bastard hates gays.  But I would say, without a real clarification, his view of "I'm cool with gays as long as they don't have the same rights as me" sounds nonsensical.

Vas wrote:
frank,

why would people wanna marry their pets?  that's disgusting…unless that's what you're really trying to tell us when two people of the same sex get married…?

This isn't the one that I was thinking of but it will do. Recently, someone else made the news for wanting to marry their pet. Think it was some woman in Japan.

http://zeldalily.com/index.php/2009/07/ghanian-woman-stops-talking-about-marrying-her-dog-and-actually-does-it/

Here's another one:

http://www.scpr.org/blogs/hettie-lynne-hurtes/2010/05/03/german-man-unofficially-marries-his-cat/

Frank wrote:

azaghal1981 wrote:
I refuse to believe that that comment was no more than a joke. Maybe a bit of satire.

Thank you! My god some people have a stick up their arse…(oops! There I go again!!!)

so frank, you're not serious?  you don't think that anyone will try marrying a mule?  then why did you put it forth as a argument against gay marriage? 

it's very easy to claim "JUST KIDDING!!!" when busted.

sweetcell wrote:

Frank wrote:
I was being facetious that the traditional marriage of a man and a woman will soon be just a memory, because a precedent is being set (not that I personally care Walkonby so put your homophobe card away) so once it's lawful for same sex marriage the next thing that will happen is people will want to marry their pets, or in some cases mules, should they take a shine to them.

what we have here, folks, is a fine piece of conservative bullshit.

"i don't support the assault weapon ban, because next thing you know they'll be breaking down my door to take away my steak knives and sewing scissors".

"i don't support the right of blacks to vote, because next thing you know we'll be giving the vote to cats and dogs".

"i'm against health care reform, because it'll lead to forced drug prescriptions and death panels."

it's a common right-wing tactic: portray a change that is scary to them as a nonsensical slippery slope.  it makes sense to them, but only because they put their beliefs before logic or intellectual honesty.  bringing in animals is pure FUD. 

….and what we have here is your typical lefty-loonie making bold statements about what other people are thinking, while throwing in the race card at every opportunity. Even though race is not even a part of the discussion. I'm sure I shoulder some of the blame for the nutjob in Arizona recently right?

I'm not even a conservative you idiot. I don't own a gun, I don't have a concealed weapons permit, I don't belong to the NRA and I don't hunt. I believe if you go into the archives on this message board you will find I am the most outspoken when it comes to being anti 2nd amendment rights. I hate NASCAR and don't like country music (apart from Zac Brown band and a couple of Sugarland songs - great voice eh?- but we all have guilty pleasures) I don't drive a truck..(in fact I drive a classic hippy-mobile - Jeep Wrangler) I don't own a suit and I hang out in coffee shops and bookstores.

You are right on healthcare reform though…I grew up with socialized medicine and even though it sounds great in theory, and I admit it does, the truth of the matter is it does not work. America already has it anyway….so you may want to ask a veteran how socialized medicine is working out for them? All shit-slinging aside….be careful what you wish for when it comes to this issue.

Right then….back to flaming me for this comment…..(ducks)

sweetcell wrote:

Frank wrote:

azaghal1981 wrote:
I refuse to believe that that comment was no more than a joke. Maybe a bit of satire.

Thank you! My god some people have a stick up their arse…(oops! There I go again!!!)

so frank, you're not serious?  you don't think that anyone will try marrying a mule?  then why did you put it forth as a argument against gay marriage? 

it's very easy to claim "JUST KIDDING!!!" when busted.

You don't really comprehend very well do you. Please point out were I stated I was against same sex marriage?

Is this where we post about the Kylie/Patriot Center meet-up?

Brian

Brian_Wallace wrote:

Is this where we post about the Kylie/Patriot Center meet-up?

Brian

Details for the Kylie meet up will be finalized at the B52's show tonight…

….oops. I'm so silly, I mean tomorrow night. I must've bumped my head while I was rollerblading.

nkotb wrote:
I think we should all agree on this point.  Because honestly, who gives a fuck?

Frank wrote:
Another thing, if religions don't want to accept or acknowledge non-traditional marriages then that should be their right to do so without any recourse from society or government.

As soon as they stop sticking their religious rules in my face through the Government…

Everybody in CA knows that it was not the religious groups in CA that blocked same sex marriage here.  Stay the hell in your backwards ass church in your backwards ass state and leave us alone.  We'll get along just fine with out you…

Frank wrote:

Brian_Wallace wrote:

Is this where we post about the Kylie/Patriot Center meet-up?

Brian

Details for the Kylie meet up will be finalized at the B52's show tonight…

….oops. I'm so silly, I mean tomorrow night. I must've bumped my head while I was rollerblading.

don't you mean, "bumped your head while fucking your children" . . .  i mean that is what straight people do, isn't it?

Oh, I agree there….they have no place in dictating the law of the land.  I was just referencing more Frank's comment about it being a church's right to not recognize it.  I'm fine with that, but agree that laws shouldn't have anything to do with the church's input or assbackward-ness.

vansmack wrote:

nkotb wrote:
I think we should all agree on this point.  Because honestly, who gives a fuck?

Frank wrote:
Another thing, if religions don't want to accept or acknowledge non-traditional marriages then that should be their right to do so without any recourse from society or government.

As soon as they stop sticking their religious rules in my face through the Government…

Everybody in CA knows that it was not the religious groups in CA that blocked same sex marriage here.  Stay the hell in your backwards ass church in your backwards ass state and leave us alone.  We'll get along just fine with out you…

Frank wrote:
throwing in the race card at every opportunity. Even though race is not even a part of the discussion.

oh, sorta like marrying an animal was never part of the discussion either? :) 

Frank wrote:
I'm not even a conservative you idiot.

fair enough, but between your defense of traditional marriage and your statements that you hated only liberal pundits (Keith Olbermann, Bill Maher), you kinda painted yourself into a corner…

Frank wrote:
You are right on healthcare reform though…I grew up with socialized medicine and even though it sounds great in theory, and I admit it does, the truth of the matter is it does not work. America already has it anyway….so you may want to ask a veteran how socialized medicine is working out for them? All shit-slinging aside….be careful what you wish for when it comes to this issue.

i too grew up with socialized medicine, and it does work.  is it perfect?  hell no.  but less problems than having the uninsured suffer from preventable ailments and having communicable diseases that we vanquished decades ago making resurgences. 

sweetcell wrote:

Frank wrote:
throwing in the race card at every opportunity. Even though race is not even a part of the discussion.

oh, sorta like marrying an animal was never part of the discussion either? :) 
I didn't flash the beastiality card, I was being sarcastic to make a point, and it is relevant to a degree that marrying an animal would be non-traditional, and people have already tried

Frank wrote:
I'm not even a conservative you idiot.

fair enough, but between your defense of traditional marriage and your statements that you hated only liberal pundits (Keith Olbermann, Bill Maher), you kinda painted yourself into a corner…
I singled those out because they are far left extremists delivering nothing but a diatribe of hate. I don't even think rational thinking liberals agree with those two

Frank wrote:
You are right on healthcare reform though…I grew up with socialized medicine and even though it sounds great in theory, and I admit it does, the truth of the matter is it does not work. America already has it anyway….so you may want to ask a veteran how socialized medicine is working out for them? All shit-slinging aside….be careful what you wish for when it comes to this issue.

i too grew up with socialized medicine, and it does work.  is it perfect?  hell no.  but less problems than having the uninsured suffer from preventable ailments and having communicable diseases that we vanquished decades ago making resurgences. 

We can debate this till the cows come home (to their spouses) and not agree. The current US health system definately needs an overhaul, but a full blown socialized system is not the answer imo. I think the government just needs to provide for catastrophic and life long injuries and diseases and for disease control (vaccinations etc.) The health insurance market needs to be opened across state lines and you will see premiums begin to drop. Especially if they don't have to cover the catastrophic stuff I just mentioned. Maybe that makes too much sense for beaurocrats? Or I'm too simplistic in my thinking. If you want to wait 5+ months to see a specialist, or 12+ months for that hip replacement/acl tear then knock yourself out. Having just had some pretty major shoulder surgery 2 weeks after it was decided it was required, I don't thank you.







walkonby - just the catholics evidently, and it's usually man/boy, which brings us full circle back the gay issue!!!  :P Your serve…

godsshoeshine wrote:
if i buy a gun i can shoot you

gay marriage has 0 effect on your life

Sure you can.  We all have the ability to fire a weapon and we can choose to point it at anyone when doing so.  As with everything in life, it has consequences.

James wrote:
I'm opposed to the killing of animals and think you should not be allowed to eat meat.

Please don't label me a hater.

RatBastard wrote:
I am going to post this at the extreme risk of being judged by my response.  The thing I don't like about this whole issue is that if one's beliefs are that gay marriage ought now be allowed, they are automatically assumed by many people to be anti-gay, gay haters, or whatever degree of that ideology is being thrust upon them.  (This is true of a lot of other issues as well BTW.)  I personally am opposed to gay marriage.  It, however, has nothing to do with being anti anything other than I am against gay marriage.  In whatever choices and decisions I make in life, the sexual orientation, preference, life style choice of others is of no concern.  Maybe I am in a small minority here, but it does suck that merely because of my believe on a particular issue I am easily labeled and judged by others.

But you are OK with killing plants which are also living things and eating them?

While you guys are bickering about your preferences about which gender or species it's best to fuck, you seem to have overlooked that Mankie admitted to liking the Zac Brown Band and Sugarland.


And I thought this was a music snob board. You guys truly disapppoint.