bellenseb
Joined: October 09, 2003 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 1889
Merge records pricing
February 17, 2011 at 12:50 AM UTC
#
So I go to buy the new East River Pipe and compare the pricing on Merge's site and Amazon:
Mp3 download: Amazon $7.99/Merge $8.99
CD: Amazon: $17.49 (plus shipping)/Merge $13.98 (free shipping)
I've got no interest in the CD, just the download, but how strange is this pricing structure? If they're cutting out the middle man, why can't they at least give me as good a deal on the download as Amazon, when they're giving me a MUCH better deal (practically 75% better factoring in shipping!) on the CD?
vansmack
Joined: October 04, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 19725
Re: Merge records pricing
February 17, 2011 at 01:15 AM UTC
#
Either Amazon is OK with smaller margins or it could be an infrastructure issue for merge.
Amazon is much better equipped to deliver media over servers to where Merge is probably just building up to this technology to handle mass quantities and e-commerce in this fashion.
sweetcell
Joined: July 18, 2006 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 22608
Re: Merge records pricing
February 17, 2011 at 01:54 AM UTC
#
on top of that, most big distributors - like amazon and itunes - really squeeze smaller labels and beat down their prices (think: walmart). $8.99 is most likely what merge would like to sell the MP3s for, but $7.99 is amazon's price - so if merge wants to be on amazon, they need to lower their royalties until $7.99 is met (which includes amazon's profit).
Chip Chanko
Joined: October 16, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 742
Re: Merge records pricing
February 17, 2011 at 03:49 PM UTC
#
Amazon is mostly concerned with undercutting itunes and takes a loss.
Chip Chanko
Joined: October 16, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 742
Re: Merge records pricing
February 17, 2011 at 04:26 PM UTC
#
Not everyone in the industry is as enthusiastic. "Been working for nine months on something that will sell for 3.99 on Amazon MP3," the independent rock group Fleet Foxes wrote last month on its Twitter feed. "That's about the price of a whoopie cushion."
http://goo.gl/ND2iV
sweetcell
Joined: July 18, 2006 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 22608
Re: Merge records pricing
February 17, 2011 at 04:44 PM UTC
#
the comparison between FF's latest album and a woopie cushion is apt, so the price equivalency is understandable.
jaguar
Joined: October 28, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 3869
Re: Merge records pricing
February 17, 2011 at 04:52 PM UTC
#
sweetcell wrote:
the comparison between FF's latest album and a woopie cushion is apt, so the price equivalency is understandable.
Oh, shit. LOL. The slow, high pitched ones.
azaghal1981
Joined: June 17, 2004 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 12035
Re: Merge records pricing
February 17, 2011 at 05:04 PM UTC
#
Woopy cushions have so much more sonic range!
sweetcell
Joined: July 18, 2006 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 22608
Re: Merge records pricing
February 17, 2011 at 05:56 PM UTC
#
fyi, i have nothing against FF… their last album is just fine, i have tickets to see them at DAR.
it was a quick easy auto-snark, i.e. this board's currency.
runwhiteyrun06
Joined: March 12, 2008 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 295
Re: Merge records pricing
February 17, 2011 at 06:07 PM UTC
#
Chip wrote:
Not everyone in the industry is as enthusiastic. "Been working for nine months on something that will sell for 3.99 on Amazon MP3," the independent rock group Fleet Foxes wrote last month on its Twitter feed. "That's about the price of a whoopie cushion."
http://goo.gl/ND2iV
I'm surprised they said that. The bands don't lose money on that, only Amazon does. Plus it gains the band much more notice. Amazon mp3 is basically the reason arcade fire and the decemberists got number one records.
bellenseb
Joined: October 09, 2003 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 1889
Re: Merge records pricing
February 17, 2011 at 07:50 PM UTC
#
The thing is, assuming you're willing to pay for music in the first place, it's odd to see Merge basically give no incentive to purchase mp3s from them. I realize I should buy from Merge, for more money, out of the goodness of my heart, I guess? But failing that, why not say "pay a buck more than Amazon, but we'll throw in this exclusive remix"?
brokensocscene
Joined: December 12, 2005 at 06:01 AM UTC
Posts: 9016
Re: Merge records pricing
February 17, 2011 at 08:03 PM UTC
#
I guess it cost Merge more money when consumers buy mp3s from them?
I use 7digital sometimes (
www.7digital.com). Sadly, the new East River Pipe is $9.90 there. (New PJ Harvey and Mogwai albums are $5 each, though!)
Chip Chanko
Joined: October 16, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 742
Re: Merge records pricing
February 17, 2011 at 08:55 PM UTC
#
Amazon's mp3 prices go up and down for the same release so it might be cheaper than merge now then $1 more later on. I assume labels selling direct don't want to get into this kind of pricing and just have a flat rate.
I like the matador store…you can buy FLACs.
godsshoeshine
Joined: September 18, 2003 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 4826
Re: Merge records pricing
February 17, 2011 at 09:10 PM UTC
#
sweetcell wrote:
fyi, i have nothing against FF… their last album is just fine, i have tickets to see them at DAR.
it was a quick easy auto-snark, i.e. this board's currency.
dont ruin a righteous zinger with the truth
jaguar
Joined: October 28, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 3869
Re: Merge records pricing
February 17, 2011 at 09:39 PM UTC
#
Chip wrote:
I like the matador store…you can buy FLACs.
I like the Bandcamp store. You get to pick whichever format you prefer, including FLAC.
bellenseb
Joined: October 09, 2003 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 1889
Re: Merge records pricing
February 17, 2011 at 09:44 PM UTC
#
Weird, I just checked Amazon and the CD price is now $16.19 (down from $17.99 yesterday), what is going on?
Chip Chanko
Joined: October 16, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 742
Re: Merge records pricing
February 17, 2011 at 09:59 PM UTC
#
Jaguar wrote:
I like the Bandcamp store. You get to pick whichever format you prefer, including FLAC.
Definitely…and ALAC! I wish more bands were on there.
jaguar
Joined: October 28, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 3869
Re: Merge records pricing
February 17, 2011 at 11:06 PM UTC
#
Chip wrote:
Jaguar wrote:
I like the Bandcamp store. You get to pick whichever format you prefer, including FLAC.
Definitely…and ALAC! I wish more bands were on there.
I've got mixed feelings about that. Right now it's loaded with lots of lesser known bands, many of whom I tend to prefer. Lots of very good ones too if you know who to look for. Also, their prices are very good and set by the bands. A lot of free downloads too that bands give away to promote their band; again, in the format of your choice.
If they start taking off too much, I fear it will end up the same way as all the other once great music sites. Too big to manage and eventually sold off to some corporation. Or worse, they close up shop. Once that happens, it's destroyed by extreme commercialism and the prices go up. I love it the way it is now.
James Ford
Joined: July 22, 2009 at 09:02 PM UTC
Posts: 5620
Re: Merge records pricing
February 18, 2011 at 01:16 AM UTC
#
We're hitting peak oil and major detrimental climate change is occurring and you guys are worried about this? :o :o :o