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lwoxley
Joined: October 06, 2004 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Obamacare... April 05, 2011 at 05:49 PM UTC #
…..this is your future America if Obama achieves his long term goal.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-12964360

Hey! Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just say'n…
sweetcell
Joined: July 18, 2006 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 22608
Re: Obamacare... April 05, 2011 at 06:57 PM UTC #
right, because the current path this country is on - richest in the world, most expensive health care in the world and coverage rates that are down-right embarrassing - is a much better path.  who cares if the working poor suffer from easily preventable diseases - let them learn to pay those lawsuit-driven sky-high prices.  if you can't afford $100+ to walk in the door of a clinic, or $20,000+ to have your burst appendix removed (a relatively simple operation, 24 hour stay), then you don't deserve health care.

let's go back to the middle ages.  i'm just sayin'.

(p.s. obama's health care plan doesn't call for full socialized medicine like they have the in UK.  hospitals remain private, insurance remains private.  are you one of those who seriously believes obama is a socialist?)
azaghal1981
Joined: June 17, 2004 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 12035
Re: Obamacare... April 05, 2011 at 11:35 PM UTC #
Does not go far enough.
HoyaSaxa03
Joined: March 22, 2004 at 06:01 AM UTC
Posts: 7053
Re: Obamacare... April 06, 2011 at 01:36 AM UTC #
well, this should be a stupid thread.
azaghal1981
Joined: June 17, 2004 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: Obamacare... April 06, 2011 at 01:52 AM UTC #
The guy that equated homosexuality to bestiality not too long ago started it.


I thought those comments were satirical at the time but now, I am not sure.
runwhiteyrun06
Joined: March 12, 2008 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 295
Re: Obamacare... April 06, 2011 at 02:05 AM UTC #
First, I really don't think threads like these should even be on the 930 club board in the first place.

Second, I would wager this board is predominantly liberal so we all know how the ensuing argument this thread would perhaps create would go down anyway.

Third, I like the fact that Frank Gallagher started this thread. The original post sounds like something Frank Gallagher from Shameless would say.


/remember, this is a music forum.
beetsnotbeats
Joined: April 26, 2002 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 5756
Re: Obamacare... April 06, 2011 at 02:30 AM UTC #
runwhiteyrun06 wrote:
/remember, this is a music forum.


Sez who?
RatBastard
Joined: January 07, 2003 at 06:01 AM UTC
Posts: 2955
Re: Obamacare... April 06, 2011 at 03:11 AM UTC #
It is not the governments business to protect me from myself or save me from poor financial decision i may make.
Doctor Doom
Joined: April 23, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 3745
Re: Obamacare... April 06, 2011 at 11:24 AM UTC #
Frank wrote:
I'm just troll'n
James Ford
Joined: July 22, 2009 at 09:02 PM UTC
Posts: 5620
Re: Obamacare... April 06, 2011 at 12:22 PM UTC #
No, it's your fellow insurance premium payers paying higher rates to support for your crippled ass.

RatBastard wrote:
It is not the governments business to protect me from myself or save me from poor financial decision i may make.
wml7
Joined: February 19, 2004 at 06:01 AM UTC
Posts: 3064
Re: Obamacare... April 06, 2011 at 12:41 PM UTC #
James wrote:
No, it's your fellow insurance premium payers paying higher rates to support for your crippled ass.

RatBastard wrote:
It is not the governments business to protect me from myself or save me from poor financial decision i may make.



Whoa  :o
godsshoeshine
Joined: September 18, 2003 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 4826
Re: Obamacare... April 06, 2011 at 12:51 PM UTC #
i think frank actually has a good point

"obamacare" does run the risk of being ineffective due to a convervative government coming in and slashing funding

because that's what the article is about…
sweetcell
Joined: July 18, 2006 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 22608
Re: Obamacare... April 06, 2011 at 01:05 PM UTC #
RatBastard wrote:
It is not the governments business to protect me from myself or save me from poor financial decision i may make.

completely agreed - but health care costs are out of the control of any single person.  it is the government's job to provide social services, especially ones where the private sector is failing. 

you can think within the system, "this is how things work - a family of four should budget thousands per year for health care.  deal with it".  or you can take a step back and ask yourself, "why should anyone have to pay that much for something so necessary, within a system that is so broken?"

my opinions are colored by the fact that i believe that health care is a basic right, not a privilege.  you should contribute towards its cost but those costs should not be allowed to run out of control to the point where health care is unattainable.   

godsshoeshine wrote:
"obamacare" does run the risk of being ineffective due to a convervative government coming in and slashing funding

good point.  makes for great politicking - kill the opposition's plan through lack of funding, then point out what a failure their plan was.  brilliant!
ggw
Joined: December 16, 2001 at 06:01 AM UTC
Posts: 14237
Re: Obamacare... April 06, 2011 at 01:33 PM UTC #
I misread the thread title.  I thought it said "Obamacore," which I figured was just some new East African sub-genre of technically polished but ultimately feckless pop pablum.
James Ford
Joined: July 22, 2009 at 09:02 PM UTC
Posts: 5620
Re: Obamacare... April 06, 2011 at 04:30 PM UTC #
I'm all for universal healthcare as long as we exclude smokers, alcohol and drug abusers, fatties who are more than 30 pounds overweight, and child abusers from getting it.
walkonby
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Re: Obamacare... April 06, 2011 at 06:02 PM UTC #
James wrote:
I'm all for universal healthcare as long as we exclude smokers, alcohol and drug abusers, fatties who are more than 30 pounds overweight, and child abusers from getting it.


then there goes the psychology/psychiatric field right out the window.  they have the whole world hooked on drugs they don't need.  and i'm sure you are overweight; you're white, you have no choice.
jaguar
Joined: October 28, 2001 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: Obamacare... April 06, 2011 at 06:14 PM UTC #
… and we all know he drinks beer!


James Ford
Joined: July 22, 2009 at 09:02 PM UTC
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Re: Obamacare... April 06, 2011 at 06:46 PM UTC #
Haha. I run 34 miles a week when I'm not training for a marathon. That means I can drink all the half-beers I want to and not get fat.  ;D
wml7
Joined: February 19, 2004 at 06:01 AM UTC
Posts: 3064
Re: Obamacare... April 06, 2011 at 06:54 PM UTC #
James wrote:
Haha. I run 34 miles a week when I'm not training for a marathon. That means I can drink all the half-beers I want to and not get fat.  ;D


;D
hutch
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Re: Obamacare... April 06, 2011 at 07:10 PM UTC #
when someone refers to health care reform as "Obamacare" you know right then and there they are not serious and have no interest in engaging in a substantial conversation..
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