Lou Reed and Metallica recording new album?!

Didn't see that coming..

http://www.metallica.com/news/20110615_news.asp


I'll take anything to get Lou Reed recording again…

Forget U2. Lou Reed/VU=most overrated of all time.

James wrote:
Forget U2. Lou Reed/VU=most overrated of all time.

I think your opinion is overrated.

James wrote:
Forget U2. Lou Reed/VU=most overrated of all time.

You're out of your mind.

chaz wrote:

James wrote:
Forget U2. Lou Reed/VU=most overrated of all time.

You're out of your mind.

I agree with Chaz.


So, I'm a huge Lou Reed fan.  He's definitely in my all time top 5 or so favorite artists. I'm not really sure how to feel about this. On one hand, Reed hasn't done a really rock album since 2000's Ecstasy so I'm excited for an album, but Metallica, really?  I don't think there's a single person on earth that saw this one coming.

chaz wrote:

James wrote:
Forget U2. Lou Reed/VU=most overrated of all time.

You're out of your mind.

3rd!

I'm much more a Velvet Underground fan than a Lou Reed fan but the man definitely has his moments and deserves some respect… even though his personality from many accounts puts him in a category where I'd prefer to admire his work from afar and avoid all personal contact with he himself.

when i think velvet, i can't help to imagine what it would have been like to be at one of those warhol freak out shows.

i like lou reed, i hate lou reed.  i like metallica, i hate metallica.  it'll work.

Metallica Machine Music

I like VU but I can't stand Nico.

They played together at that Rock and Roll hall of fame conert at MSG in 09.  It was ok.  Who doesn't like Lou Reed??

LR/VU I'd go to any time anywhere.  Metallica, almost as over rated as U2.  The sad part about Metallica is that the vocalist really can sing but he chooses to do that horrid raspy throat groaning crap that does not fit his voice at all.  Sounds like he is constipated and trying to push out a rock hard turd with all his might.  Especially on that song with the 'until he sleeps' line or whatever it is.

My wife, for one.

Thank goodness I married a fox instead of a sheep.

Mobius wrote:
Who doesn't like Lou Reed??

Ratbastard when you say "overrated" does that simply mean a band that millions of people love but you don't?

Perhaps he is one of those millions of people who don't understand the meaning of the word "overrated".

Sometimes there will be a band who doesn't live up to the high regard that music geeks hold them up to. That to me is what overrated means.

While U2 and Metallica are beloved by millions, they're not held in particularly high regard by music geeks. Hence, they really can't be overrated.

Relaxer wrote:
Ratbastard when you say "overrated" does that simply mean a band that millions of people love but you don't?

I'd second this.  Most people I know that LOVE U2 only think they're music geeks.  But I guess I can see RB's point…no way U2 should have as many fans as they have.  Metallica, too, especially with their post Black Album output.  Still, I'd turn the volume all the way up on Master of Puppets any day of the week…

James wrote:
While U2 and Metallica are beloved by millions, they're not held in particularly high regard by music geeks. Hence, they really can't be overrated.

StoneTheCrow wrote:
I like VU but I can't stand Nico.

Well lucky for you she only sang lead on a whopping total of 3 Velvet Underground songs.

VU was completely epic in my mind.  Nobody before or since sounded anything like them.  Each of their proper albums is completely unique from the others, while still maintaining a consistent signature.  They are one of the few bands that absolutely BLEW my mind the first time I heard them.  I was 14 or 15, had never heard their name, had no preconceived notions that I was "supposed" to like them.  In fact, I was half drunk and falling asleep.  My friend was like "dude you gotta hear this band".  He was playing Black Angel's Death Song.  I was floored.  I've listened to them consistently ever since.  A long time.

Lou's solo output has been varied.  But it contains some of my all time faves.  And he had a 3 record run in the late 80's/early 90's that for me puts the exclamation point on his entire career. 

I would disagree and say that they should have as many fans as they do.

They started off as a band playing more indie (not that the word existed in the early 80s) sounding music, establishing some cred early on. Then expanded to big rock anthems, thus capturing the classic rock crowd. Then went pop, bringing the top 40 type music fan into their fold.

Why wouldn't/shouldn't they have as many fans as they do?

And of course Metallica is always going to have tons of fans as long as their are pimply faced males in the world.

nkotb wrote:
I'd second this.  Most people I know that LOVE U2 only think they're music geeks.  But I guess I can see RB's point…no way U2 should have as many fans as they have.  Metallica, too, especially with their post Black Album output.  Still, I'd turn the volume all the way up on Master of Puppets any day of the week…

James wrote:
While U2 and Metallica are beloved by millions, they're not held in particularly high regard by music geeks. Hence, they really can't be overrated.

Cuz I don't really like them.

James wrote:
Why wouldn't they have as many fans as they do?

nkotb wrote:
I'd second this.  Most people I know that LOVE U2 only think they're music geeks.  But I guess I can see RB's point…no way U2 should have as many fans as they have.  Metallica, too, especially with their post Black Album output.  Still, I'd turn the volume all the way up on Master of Puppets any day of the week…

James wrote:
While U2 and Metallica are beloved by millions, they're not held in particularly high regard by music geeks. Hence, they really can't be overrated.

I guess I don't get this line of thinking. To me, U2 isn't some hyped buzzband that no one has ever heard, they've had legitimately mega-popular albums that spawned tons of hit singles over several decades and they continue to sell out 50k-100k stadiums. To me that says they're as popular as they should be.

And while I've been one and may still be to an extent, who gives a shit about music geeks? Music geeks inherently shun most music that is mainstream so it's hard to put a lot of credibility into their opinion about which music is valid and which isn't. So when I read something along the lines of "People that like U2 don't really like music" I think it's pretty douchey. I'll scoff and smirk when I look at my wife's collection of Dave Matthews, Counting Crows and (sigh…) Ani Distanko CDs but does that make her any less of a fan than me, with my Tyler, Psychedelic Horseshit and Blanck Mass mp3s?

I'm guilty of it to an extent. I remember seeing the Killers as the 3rd band on a Black Cat bill and thinking, wow that was great! But a year later when Mr Brightside was blaring from every bro's jeep, I was like "pbbb, these guys suck now."

That's what I was kind of trying to get at, but not very well.  I'd almost rather hang out with a U2 fan and talk music than I would a music geek in most cases.  My taste run pretty wide when it comes to bands, but I still wouldn't want to listen to some numbnuts name drop bands all day long to look impressive.  My comment about "U2 only think they're music geeks" was more of a compliment, meaning they're not needlessly trying to like things to be hip.  If anything, it was more of a compliment, although I guess it didn't seem that way.

Also, based on your wife's musical preferences, we might be married to the same person. I'm honored to follow you up, good sir.

Relaxer wrote:
And while I've been one and may still be to an extent, who gives a shit about music geeks? Music geeks inherently shun most music that is mainstream so it's hard to put a lot of credibility into their opinion about which music is valid and which isn't. So when I read something along the lines of "People that like U2 don't really like music" I think it's pretty douchey. I'll scoff and smirk when I look at my wife's collection of Dave Matthews, Counting Crows and (sigh…) Ani Distanko CDs but does that make her any less of a fan than me, with my Tyler, Psychedelic Horseshit and Blanck Mass mp3s?

I'm guilty of it to an extent. I remember seeing the Killers as the 3rd band on a Black Cat bill and thinking, wow that was great! But a year later when Mr Brightside was blaring from every bro's jeep, I was like "pbbb, these guys suck now."