DC Parking Shenanigans

Jag, you seem to have misunderstood my point (shocking, I know) – the concept of a commuter tax is a pretty straightforward public policy tool used in this country and in many others to balance the equities of providing municipal services to people who don't reside in the jurisdiction in which they work – I couldn't really tell from your rambling response, but it seems like you disagree generally with levying such a tax. Why?

Jaguar wrote:
Hoya, you and your ilk will be required to pay the Troll a tax to cross over the Beltway since you just love bilking the people so much. Put your own wallet where your mouth is!

I'm not really sure what any of this means, but I generally support government efforts to make the cost of driving more accurately reflect its societal costs, through methods such as increased gasoline taxes, tolling of roads and other infrastructure, and parking fees

Nah Hoya, I knew what you were saying. Didn't mean to place any anger your way as you were only stating your beliefs without the hate filled rant towards outsiders.

You are right that I don't agree with them, mostly because I lean towards thinking that it's misguided and restricts one's freedom; albeit, financial; to move about. To be honest, I guess I'd have to see real figures, not cooked books, that prove their worth towards all. Not just select groups either. Besides, as I stated earlier, if you want to concentrate large amounts of employment in such a small area, then you either allow some (without the financial and time management burdens they already put up with via commuting) to live outside the area or you accept the extra burden of how it would impact the community if most or all lived within the confines. Ultimately, I do think that some of the mass concentrations of employment should be shared throughout the country yet I recognize it would also have it's own issues to deal with if they were spread out.

I just don't think it's fair to punish those living outside the area when the infra-structure won't really allow for all of them. Besides, they do manage to leave some of their money THAT THEY EARN, in the area while inside. It's one of those ideas that I consider being very misguided and short-sighted.

Bags wrote:
You get a ticket if you have not REMOVED the previous year's registration tag in your windshield. 

Wow, I didn't know this.

I usually remove mine fairly promptly anyway, but I thought it was an aesthetic concern; I didn't know it was a requirement.

I feel like I've seen some cars with not just their previous registration sticker but also the one preceding it!

Christine wrote:

Bags wrote:
You get a ticket if you have not REMOVED the previous year's registration tag in your windshield. 

Wow, I didn't know this.

I usually remove mine fairly promptly anyway, but I thought it was an aesthetic concern; I didn't know it was a requirement.

I feel like I've seen some cars with not just their previous registration sticker but also the one preceding it!

So wait, in the real world, what kind of a problem does this cause? Well, besides it breaking some stupid regulation. Is it really that difficult for their little patrols to do their job with the inclusion of older stickers?

See, this is the kind of petty stuff that pisses many of us off.

I have four registration stickers on my car, which is lame but it is what it is, and I've never been nailed for it. We get parking tickets all the time but have never been dinged for that.

Christine wrote:

Bags wrote:
You get a ticket if you have not REMOVED the previous year's registration tag in your windshield. 

Wow, I didn't know this.

I usually remove mine fairly promptly anyway, but I thought it was an aesthetic concern; I didn't know it was a requirement.

I feel like I've seen some cars with not just their previous registration sticker but also the one preceding it!

My neighbour still has her 2004 VA window sticker on her truck….just say'n!  ;D

I find it interesting that we "suburbanites" are characterized as takers, and not contributing to DC's coffers….. EVERY single time I go into DC, it's basically to spend money in one way or another, either at a concert, restaurant, ballgame, etc, and I'm pretty sure the DC gov't get's its kickbacks taxes on what I spend….. I certainly don't head in to drive around on DC's wonderfully maintained roads all day for kicks and then head back home……

^ Exactly!

Then when you consider the high percentage of Federal jobs that 'some' of the residents seem to believe are being paid out from their pockets. Okay, they do contribute but so do the people in all 50 states (via taxes, fees, etc.) and then some! At least the District and its residents profit and have income in many ways by being the home to these jobs. Then there's the money spent by the workers within the District in many different ways. In fact, DC is one of the only parts of the US that is not hurting so drastically right now with this horrendous economy, thanks to all of those Federal jobs that all 50 outside of the District and various visitors and other entities pay for.

Guess it's just the typical DCcratic mentality that expects all 50 to 'contribute' but damned if any of us receive any of the goods.

Herr wrote:

Beyond that, I am highly skeptical of the description of any regulation described on this board

http://dmv.dc.gov/serv/registration/ROSA.shtm

the camera cars scan plates in "residential" areas.  if you are flagged twice within 180 days, you are issued a warning telling you that you need to register.  that registration lasts one year.  you can do it in person, through the mail, or online.

several people at the club, including me, have had to go through this process since our neighborhood became "residential."

thus puts this issue to bed…

right, not that it will stop people from arguing with each other like dickheads…

Isn't that what the internet is for?

ggw wrote:
Isn't that what the internet is for?

empirically, the internet is for the delivery of porn and pictures of cats.  and arguments.

sweetcell wrote:

ggw wrote:
Isn't that what the internet is for?

empirically, the internet is for the delivery of porn and pictures of cats.  and arguments.

and destroying record companies and allowing trite "indie" rock bands to take their place

thatguy wrote:

several people at the club, including me, have had to go through this process since our neighborhood became "residential."

Does the club not have private parking that its staff can use?

And you do understand how a neighborhood "becomes residential?"  It's not something the city declares on its own because they want to rake in more bucks.  The people in the neighborhood have to petition for it.  And since that's a PITA in itself, ya gotta figure that the club and bar parking was getting outta hand.  It sucks to have to register your car, it also sucks to come home to your own neighborhood and not be able to park. 

god i sound so snobby . . . but when i come to dc i only park in the places's lot, in a parking garage, or use valet.  i never park on the street.  never.  there are people wondering around in those places.  and the streets have no name; even bono knows that.

What are they wondering about?

walkonby wrote:
god i sound so snobby . . . but when i come to dc i only park in the places's lot, in a parking garage, or use valet.  i never park on the street.  never.  there are people wondering around in those places.  and the streets have no name; even bono knows that.

Herr wrote:
Does the club not have private parking that its staff can use?

And you do understand how a neighborhood "becomes residential?"   It's not something the city declares on its own because they want to rake in more bucks.   The people in the neighborhood have to petition for it.   And since that's a PITA in itself, ya gotta figure that the club and bar parking was getting outta hand.   It sucks to have to register your car, it also sucks to come home to your own neighborhood and not be able to park.   

the club has some parking for the staph, and we recently had to come up with new options after a major overhaul of the street parking rules on 9th st.  i assume it's all related to the condos in the area, but i don't know for certain.

the neighborhood is changing after 15 years.  gotta roll with the punches.
 

James wrote:
What are they wondering about?

walkonby wrote:
god i sound so snobby . . . but when i come to dc i only park in the places's lot, in a parking garage, or use valet.  i never park on the street.  never.  there are people wondering around in those places.  and the streets have no name; even bono knows that.

the a and the o always get me.