Secondary Ticket Sale Safety under New Scanning System?

I noticed at the The Glitch Mob show that 930 start had begun the use of scanners to validate tickets for entry.  That is a good idea, I always wondered how they protected themselves against the possibility of counterfeit.

I also noticed that they didn't rip the stub off.  The stub contains bar code.

Then yesterday I was looking online for tickets to Ellie Goulding.  It dawned on me that I could be scammed by someone at the venue who presented a clean looking but already used, ie scanned, ticket.

I should buy the tickets away from the venue or better see the seller pick them up from the window.
Any thoughts?

Seems like the door staff just needs a box of these.

maybe thatguy could take tickets and say,  "this better not be fucking fake."

right..ticketmaster venues don't rip the stubs off after they scan either. I say buy at your own risk…

930clubber wrote:

I also noticed that they didn't rip the stub off.  The stub contains bar code.

this has the potential to be the Most On-Topic and Useful Thread of the Year

HoyaSaxa03 wrote:
this has the potential to be the Most On-Topic and Useful Thread of the Year

oh god . . . maybe i shouldn't have posted then.  ;D

Happened to me in Paris seeing the Black Keys.  As a stupid American (TM), the security guy decided I was an idiot and not a scammer and so let me in.

Was a great show.

eros' marker idea is simple and effective.  they already use markers to mark under-aged patrons?  i hope this idea bubbles up to management.  (i can also see why this incurs potential liabilities that they may not want to bear.) 

The scanner thing is pretty commonplace. And a lot of places have no ins/outs - so its near impossible to get someone's used ticket. Of course, it does happen all the time - I volunteer at Summerstage and we warn everyone 'buy at your own risk' when dealing with people selling tix. Your best bet is to have them walk you into the show (so to speak) and when your ticket is scanned the coast is clear.

I thought 9:30 had no ins/outs - aside from the smoking section (which I recall they used to have, but maybe there isnt one?).

Exactly. Buyer beware, as they say.

Vas wrote:
right..ticketmaster venues don't rip the stubs off after they scan either. I say buy at your own risk…

930clubber wrote:

I also noticed that they didn't rip the stub off.  The stub contains bar code.

930 have always had reentry as far as I know. And no smoking is allowed anywhere in the building.

You are allowed to leave 9:30 and walk around anywhere outside. Hmm, this thread has me concerned about scalpers big time. You could get screwed! JUST TEAR THE DAMN STUB! Forget scanners!

if somebody went into the club, came back out and tried to sell an already scanned ticket, wouldn't the big "930" in black marker on their hand be sort of a giveaway.

I'm not sure who we are trying to help here…

walkonby wrote:
if somebody went into the club, came back out and tried to sell an already scanned ticket, wouldn't the big "930" in black marker on their hand be sort of a giveaway.

They could just claim they had an extra they were trying to offload between sets… or keep their hand in their pocket, etc. Lot's of ways around that part.

any idea why the policy wouldn't be just to rip the stub after scanning? 

My plan is to gain entry into the club with my ticket, then head to the bathroom and amputate the hand having stamp on it. 

I will then hide the amputated hand while I head back out and resell my used ticket to some sucker who won't see that I have a stamp, then whip the amputated hand back out to regain entry to the club.

walkonby wrote:
if somebody went into the club, came back out and tried to sell an already scanned ticket, wouldn't the big "930" in black marker on their hand be sort of a giveaway.

Or maybe they could put the stamp/mark on the ticket, hence showing that it has already been scanned. 

(that was the point of my original post)

I don't think the big concern is the in/out folks, it's the scalper with the xerox machine or the printer who prints multiple copies of tickets.

Caveat Emptor.