HoyaSaxa03
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Automobiles
November 10, 2011 at 06:56 PM UTC
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VW Tiguan v. Kia Sportage v. Hyundai Tuscon
Discuss.
James Ford
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Re: Automobiles
November 10, 2011 at 06:58 PM UTC
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Can't wait to read ggw's reply.
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Re: Automobiles
November 10, 2011 at 07:08 PM UTC
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aren't you the one that started that music thread because no one talks about music?
HoyaSaxa03
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Re: Automobiles
November 10, 2011 at 07:09 PM UTC
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James wrote:
Can't wait to read ggw's reply.
I'll throw a Subaru Forrester in the mix as well, GGW seems like a Subaru guy.
ggw
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Re: Automobiles
November 10, 2011 at 07:23 PM UTC
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I am not a fan of the crossover SUV genre in general. In general, I would get a station wagon before a mini SUV. I do like Subaru, but I would get an Outback before a Forester. I would get a Touareg instead of a Tiguan.
Or you can go all in on the suburban douche factor like me and get a Range Rover (a proper Range Rover - not that dumbed-down Sport version).
HoyaSaxa03
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Re: Automobiles
November 10, 2011 at 07:28 PM UTC
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I want a wagon. The wife wants an SUV. Guess who wins?
We can't have anything longer than 178 inches (that's what she said), which rules out a ton of cars.
StoneTheCrow
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Re: Automobiles
November 10, 2011 at 07:33 PM UTC
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HoyaSaxa03 wrote:
I want a wagon. The wife wants an SUV. Guess who wins?
Nobody!!
I have driven a Mercedes wagon - my in-laws have one - and it's a really nice car. But it's a wagon, ferchrissakes.
Own an SUV that currently has 190k miles on it. Am in the process of driving it into the ground and once that happens I will be done with SUVs forever. Just glad I don't have to drive it everyday.
James Ford
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Re: Automobiles
November 10, 2011 at 07:33 PM UTC
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We're very happy with our RAV4. Or I should say my work at home wife is. I'm the one who drives every day, and i get to drive the 16 year old Saturn.
StoneTheCrow
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Re: Automobiles
November 10, 2011 at 07:37 PM UTC
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Hey, don't knock Saturns. Still have my '99 SL2 and it's about to hit 200k. Most reliable car I've ever owned.
HoyaSaxa03
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Re: Automobiles
November 10, 2011 at 07:38 PM UTC
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StoneTheCrow wrote:
But it's a wagon, ferchrissakes.
there are some sweet wagons out there:

James Ford
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Re: Automobiles
November 10, 2011 at 07:41 PM UTC
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95 SL2 with 145K. AC is broken, heat not great, ceiling falling in, back windows won't roll down, radio volume dial busted, leaks wiper fluid, the list goes on. But very reliable for short trip driving.
StoneTheCrow wrote:
Hey, don't knock Saturns. Still have my '99 SL2 and it's about to hit 200k. Most reliable car I've ever owned.
StoneTheCrow
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Re: Automobiles
November 10, 2011 at 07:45 PM UTC
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That's pretty good.
A/C in mine just died (the compressor clutch went first). One rear window won't go down and that's an easy fix but I won't bother with that. Radio is fine but all four speakers are shot. Sunroof still works great.
The worst of it is that the rings are leaking oil and that that's way too much of a job for me and too much $$ to take to the shop for this car. So this one's being driven onto the ground, too.
chaz
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Re: Automobiles
November 10, 2011 at 07:45 PM UTC
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For the love of god don't get a VW.
Get a RAV4 or CRV, that's my vote.
I'm in the market too, but for something used. Was looking hard at CRV but in the end it's not big enough for what we need.
HoyaSaxa03
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Re: Automobiles
November 10, 2011 at 07:49 PM UTC
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chaz wrote:
For the love of god don't get a VW.
Get a RAV4 or CRV, that's my vote.
I'm in the market too, but for something used. Was looking hard at CRV but in the end it's not big enough for what we need.
RAV4 is too long (181.9), CRV (179.3) is just butting up against our length limit.
chaz
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Re: Automobiles
November 10, 2011 at 07:53 PM UTC
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HoyaSaxa03 wrote:
chaz wrote:
For the love of god don't get a VW.
Get a RAV4 or CRV, that's my vote.
I'm in the market too, but for something used. Was looking hard at CRV but in the end it's not big enough for what we need.
RAV4 is too long (181.9), CRV (179.3) is just butting up against our length limit.
Why the limit? a parking space?
vansmack
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Re: Automobiles
November 10, 2011 at 07:57 PM UTC
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I'm torn between the Audi A3 TDI and the Lexus CT 200h.
There's nothing wrong with that Audi Wagon….
ggw
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Re: Automobiles
November 10, 2011 at 08:01 PM UTC
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Where do you live - Munchkinland?
You should point out to Saxette that getting a crossover SUV is not a compromise, it's a stunning loss for her. It is no way an SUV. They are basically built on car platforms. There are a lot of great station wagons out there with as much space as a mini-SUV.
You're a well-educated, high-powered attorney. How come you can't win this case, counselor?
James Ford
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Re: Automobiles
November 10, 2011 at 08:05 PM UTC
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You, sir, have obviously never shared living space with a spouse/partner/signifacant other who was pregnant.
ggw wrote:
Where do you live - Munchkinland?
You should point out to Saxette that getting a crossover SUV is not a compromise, it's a stunning loss for her. It is no way an SUV. They are basically built on car platforms. There are a lot of great station wagons out there with as much space as a mini-SUV.
You're a well-educated, high-powered attorney. How come you can't win this case, counselor?
HoyaSaxa03
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Re: Automobiles
November 10, 2011 at 08:12 PM UTC
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I live in the Capitol Hill Historic District with a tiny-ass garage apparently built to house a small horse.
It's easier to get a car seat in and out of an SUV (compact or not) as compared to a wagon/hatchback. This seems to override every other argument in favor of the wagon. Oh well.
The
Sportage SX looks solid and somewhat fun to drive.
James Ford
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Re: Automobiles
November 10, 2011 at 08:16 PM UTC
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Carry the child in a sling and you won't have the problem of carseat removal. We never once removed the carseat. Plus, carrying a baby in a carseat just
looks douchey. And the sling allows for more bonding than carrying a kid in a carseat or stroller.
I mean seriously, don't let that be a criteria for car selection!
HoyaSaxa03 wrote:
I live in the Capitol Hill Historic District with a tiny-ass garage apparently built to house a small horse.
It's easier to get a car seat in and out of an SUV (compact or not) as compared to a wagon/hatchback. This seems to override every other argument in favor of the wagon. Oh well.
The Sportage SX looks solid and somewhat fun to drive.