This might make for an interesting topic

http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-01-18/six-u-s-lawmakers-abandon-anti-piracy-bills-as-google-protests.html

yeah . . . lets's all download an album that isn't out yet in celebration.

hutch wrote:

chaz wrote:
All the ruckus raised over this has not been for nothing.  Co-authors of both of these bills had their names taken off of them today.

well not entirely for nothing.. it allowed James Ford and Walkie to waste our collective time getting their panties in a bunch.

god . . . i love the fact that you hate me so much, but yet you still call me walkie.

here, this is for you

Didn't this happen because of the ruckus raised today?  Seems it wasn't really "for nothing" IMO, but I could be wrong.

chaz wrote:
All the ruckus raised over this has not been for nothing.  Co-authors of both of these bills had their names taken off of them today.

can't speak for chaz, but maybe that's what he was saying in a double negative kind of way?

nkotb wrote:
Didn't this happen because of the ruckus raised today?  Seems it wasn't really "for nothing" IMO, but I could be wrong.

chaz wrote:
All the ruckus raised over this has not been for nothing.  Co-authors of both of these bills had their names taken off of them today.

Thank you rhett…I don't talk so good sometimes.

Yes.  What I meant is that all the online activism is paying off…supporters of these bills are jumping ship left and right.

James wrote:
can't speak for chaz, but maybe that's what he was saying in a double negative kind of way?

nkotb wrote:
Didn't this happen because of the ruckus raised today?  Seems it wasn't really "for nothing" IMO, but I could be wrong.

chaz wrote:
All the ruckus raised over this has not been for nothing.  Co-authors of both of these bills had their names taken off of them today.

Sorry…just my terrible reading comprehension.  And also the fact that everyone is such a Debbie Downer in her lately  ;)

chaz wrote:
Thank you rhett…I don't talk so good sometimes.

Yes.  What I meant is that all the online activism is paying off…supporters of these bills are jumping ship left and right.

James wrote:
can't speak for chaz, but maybe that's what he was saying in a double negative kind of way?

nkotb wrote:
Didn't this happen because of the ruckus raised today?  Seems it wasn't really "for nothing" IMO, but I could be wrong.

chaz wrote:
All the ruckus raised over this has not been for nothing.  Co-authors of both of these bills had their names taken off of them today.

yeah, all you debbie downers  ;D

that made me think of little debbie snack cakes.  now i want one.  yum.  right on.  after that dm show call, it's pies and anchovies from here on out.

Today's Update:

Megaupload, a very popular file uploading/downloading server, was taken down by the Feds today.

The hacktivist group known as "Anonymous" retaliated by taking down the websites for the Department of Justice, RIAA, Universal Music Group, MPAA, and the White House.

:o ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D :o


You know, that, in part, might explain why it took me a ridiculous amount of time today to download a new album a band sent me to play on my radio station. All totally legitimate, sent by a band who completely owns all of their own music; to a radio station to help promote their music that pays those gangsters at some of those letter agencies forced fees for every song aired and for every single listener. Money, that, in turn, is used to keep down small radio stations and webcasters, as well as small time bands trying to get their music out to the public. Also, lots of musicians who share portions of songs back and forth to work on tracks, among other totally legal and completely ethical activities.

Further proving that not all transferred files are pirated. It's stuff like this that makes many of us fight the SOPA and PIPA acts!

chaz wrote:
all the online activism is paying off…supporters of these bills are jumping ship left and right.

I  think people vastly overstate the importance of "online activism."  It's pretty hard to believe that Wikipedia going dark and a bunch of people tweeting had any effect on this whatsoever.    More likely, what this represents is the victory of certain 21st century corporate titans (Google and friends) over 20th century corporate titans (the entertainment industry).

I think that you are both right. This was only a temporary victory as you damned well know that they will continue to regroup and come after us with full guns. It was the numbers and some of the bigger power players that stalled them for a few minutes. Some, are probably disguised infiltrators as always happens. They get in to 'know thy enemy' and then get control and lead them on to self-destruction. Happens all the time.


Disclaimer: Before anyone twists up this issue, by no means am I, or most of the opposers of these acts, condoning any kind of pirating. It's all the draconian nastiness involved. The piracy issue is nothing but the glitter to sell dangerous legislation and kill the freedom of the internet as we know it.

And Doomie, you are also right about it being a corporate power play by some. All you have to do is look at the ongoing battles between such companies as Comcrap, Netflix and the Hollywood mega-studios. Shame that all of the artists and consumers; legitimate ones at that; are usually the ones who end up paying in the end for those battles and even losing livelihoods. We just don't have the power, money and comparable representation.

Go Anonymous go!


Disabling a useful tool such as Megaupload and arresting its founders in 2012 is akin to banning the VCR and arresting its inventor in 1980.


These fuckers deserve everything they have coming.

No, I do not use Megaupload for anything but as Jaguar stated, most of its use is likely for perfectly legal purposes.

most use megaupload for legit purposes? is there any evidence supporting such an assertion?

Can you explain this one? Thanks.

azaghal1981 wrote:

Disabling a useful tool such as Megaupload and arresting its founders in 2012 is akin to banning the VCR and arresting its inventor in 1980.

No, I don't have stats or anything. But I do see it, Mediafire, Sendspace, etc. used for legit purposes regularly.

^ Let's look at it another way. A couple guys go out and rob a bank. They make their getaway in a Toyota Camry. With the logic of these bills, Toyota would be charged as well as the robbers. It doesn't matter that the car maker's intent was not meant for their cars to be used to rob banks, but they were. Same logic.

For those who still don't get the importance of stopping such legislation, please watch this video… and pay very close attention to the message…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tFnqa8Gk3as

… otherwise, we may all meet up at this board's biggest forum party ever. Seth will be there too but he won't be hosting the thing.

That would include:

Rhett/James - for all of the copy and paste posts he's lifted and used in here as his own… and all of the good beer photos and articles

Walkie - for all of his cool cat pictures

Hutch - for his music links

Kosmo - for his many DJ sets he's created and linked in here

Smackie - for his ladies and techie links

Sweets - for the many news articles he's pasted or linked us up with

Wml - for his cool concert videos. So you say it's his? Too bad, you can see a bottle of beer or the name of the venue, etc….

ALL OF US - for the many videos, photos, new articles, names we've mentioned, and on and on and on and on.

YES, it has the potential to be that bad!

There is a difference between being against SOPA and what is  going on with shutting down Megaupload….


Azaghal himself says he really doesn't know what people use Megaupload for.. he knows anecdotally that some people use it legit… thats about all he knows..