Van Halen Sucks

atomicfront wrote:

RatBastard wrote:
If we are going to talk about bands that suck ass we really ought to be discussing U2.

I think every band would like to suck as bad as U2.  Tons of great pop songs and stadium gigs.   And edge is actually a guitarist who just plays well without trying to show off. 

A handful of average (and to use the term loosely) musicians who make average pop songs.  Bone-Ho is the biggest megalomaniac in the music industry.  As you say they sold a lot but they still suck.  Numbers <> quality.  Case in point, cockroaches and AOL.  :)

Two 50 year old guys arguing about U2.

Does it get more entertaining than this?

Van Halen SUCKS

James wrote:
Two 50 year old guys arguing about U2.

Does it get more entertaining than this?

the last time I bought an album by U2 I was a teenager.  I don't get your age thing.  As before I am not 50.  Do you really feel old or something.  You keep bringing up people's age.  It appears that having kids has drained the life out of you but not everyone feels super old.

Wotta bunch of uptight gloomy fucks, Van Halen I rules, deal with it  ;D

No strong feelings on Van Halen either way, but Aztec Camera's acoustic cover of "Jump" is all time favorite cover. 

kosmo wrote:
No strong feelings on Van Halen either way, but Aztec Camera&#039;s acoustic cover of &quot;Jump&quot; is all time favorite cover.&nbsp;

finally we agree on something. 

kosmo wrote:
No strong feelings on Van Halen either way, but Aztec Camera&#039;s acoustic cover of &quot;Jump&quot; is all time favorite cover.&nbsp;

Many years ago right after I got out of the Marine Corps I ran the supply room at a local hospital.  One day one of the women who worked filling supply orders for the patient wards was singing the song Jump as she was working.  I laughed when she sang "Maxwell Jump, oh Maxwell Jump"…  True story!  (I hop I didn't just ruin the song for you.)

you were in the marines . . . hot.

I don't like some of Van Halen stuff, but I think they're a solid 80's rock group. Personally, I don't think they hold a candle to GNR, but it was semi different times in the decade. I think Eddie and Diamond Dave are both epic levels of ass hats, but I think what they had for an amount of time was magic. I play guitar, I love playing guitar and watching/listening to gods play guitar and EVH is absolutely up their in my top 10 if not top 5 all time.

So, people can say they suck, and that's fine, I think they rock. At least most of the time. Come on, that drum intro on "Hot For Teacher" into that crazy tapping intro from Eddie? Dude.

So this must have been the ultimate in suckatude?

slappy wrote:
So this must have been the ultimate in suckatude?

Saw them on this tour on their 2nd leg through dc…amazing show.

Life changing, in fact.

DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:
I don&#039;t like some of Van Halen stuff, but I think they&#039;re a solid 80&#039;s rock group. Personally, I don&#039;t think they hold a candle to GNR, but it was semi different times in the decade. I think Eddie and Diamond Dave are both epic levels of ass hats, but I think what they had for an amount of time was magic. I play guitar, I love playing guitar and watching/listening to gods play guitar and EVH is absolutely up their in my top 10 if not top 5 all time.

So, people can say they suck, and that&#039;s fine, I think they rock. At least most of the time. Come on, that drum intro on &quot;Hot For Teacher&quot; into that crazy tapping intro from Eddie? Dude.

Solid defense of non-suckitude.

slappy wrote:
So this must have been the ultimate in suckatude?

I tried to get tickets to a DAR consitution hall show by them in 1984 at constitution hall. I  believe it was later in the year.  But by the time I got off work the day tickets went on sale they were already gone.. Still haven't seen them.  But by the looks of that set-list that kind of sucks I missed it. Too bad their wasn't stubhub back then.

slappy wrote:
So this must have been the ultimate in suckatude?

Could be.  I've never heard this show but this would represent the timeframe in which they (in my opinion) started to suck.  I realize this is not popular opinion but couldn't care less.

Saw them on this tour on their 2nd leg through dc…amazing show.

Life changing, in fact.

Agreed - I saw them at the Cap Centre (4/8/85) and it was incredible at the time!

1.  11 O'Clock Tick Tock
2.  I Will Follow
3.  Seconds
4.  MLK
5.  The Unforgettable Fire
6.  Break On Through (snippet) / Wire / Give Me Some Truth (snippet)
7.  Sunday Bloody Sunday
8.  The Cry
9.  The Electric Co. / Wooden Heart (snippet) / Amazing Grace (snippet)
10.  A Sort Of Homecoming
11.  Bad / I'm Waiting For The Man (snippet) / Norwegian Wood (snippet) / Ruby Tuesday (snippet) / Sympathy For The Devil (snippet)
12.  October
13.  New Year's Day
14.  Pride (In The Name Of Love)

    encore(s):
1.  Knockin' On Heaven's Door
2.  Gloria
3.  40 / Do They Know It's Christmas (snippet) / We Are The World (snippet)

StoneTheCrow wrote:

slappy wrote:
So this must have been the ultimate in suckatude?

Could be.&nbsp; I&#039;ve never heard this show but this would represent the timeframe in which they (in my opinion) started to suck.&nbsp; I realize this is not popular opinion but couldn&#039;t care less.

But "All that you can't leave behind" came out 16 years later and is a pretty awesome album. 

grateful wrote:

Saw them on this tour on their 2nd leg through dc…amazing show.

Life changing, in fact.

Agreed - I saw them at the Cap Centre (4/8/85) and it was incredible at the time!

1.&nbsp; 11 O&#039;Clock Tick Tock
2.&nbsp; I Will Follow
3.&nbsp; Seconds
4.&nbsp; MLK
5.&nbsp; The Unforgettable Fire
6.&nbsp; Break On Through (snippet) / Wire / Give Me Some Truth (snippet)
7.&nbsp; Sunday Bloody Sunday
8.&nbsp; The Cry
9.&nbsp; The Electric Co. / Wooden Heart (snippet) / Amazing Grace (snippet)
10.&nbsp; A Sort Of Homecoming
11.&nbsp; Bad / I&#039;m Waiting For The Man (snippet) / Norwegian Wood (snippet) / Ruby Tuesday (snippet) / Sympathy For The Devil (snippet)
12.&nbsp; October
13.&nbsp; New Year&#039;s Day
14.&nbsp; Pride (In The Name Of Love)

&nbsp; &nbsp; encore(s):
1.&nbsp; Knockin&#039; On Heaven&#039;s Door
2.&nbsp; Gloria
3.&nbsp; 40 / Do They Know It&#039;s Christmas (snippet) / We Are The World (snippet)

That's the show I saw too…blew my 13 year old mind.

The best part of the show was Bono's irritation with Cap Centre security:

http://u2station.com/tours/1985/04/april-8-1985---landover-maryland-usa---capital-centre.php

This particular night, Bono was mad. Mad at the arena security that is. A bunch of underpaid bullies with no sense of what a concert is supposed to be. During the first few songs, the security guards around the stage were harassing any fan who was having a good time. Bono had had enough, and told the security guards to stop pushing the fans around. Then he ordered the security to leave, and the band refused to play another note until all stage security left the area. Deafening cheers from the 10,000 in attendance. Bono also said to those unfortunate fans in the nosebleeds to come down and sit closer, which literally ended up starting a near-riot. From then on, the show was incredible. Unfortunately, the near-riot caused local officials and the Capitol Centre staff to ban U2 from ever performing in that venue again.

for whatever reason I've never seen U2….



but I'd have really liked to see the 1983 or the one on Live Under a Blood Red Sky.. or the next year would have been fine….that period… before joshua tree…. the period where they were sort of a band that mattered….it was more than the music or "hits"….they were hungry, they had something important to say (and the credibility to say it), etc.