MyraEllen
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From the same folks that wanted you to write a suicide note
March 26, 2013 at 05:31 PM UTC
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Remember when BYT wanted you to write a fake suicide note to win Morrissey tickets?
http://forum.930.com/index.php?topic=22868.0Now @marissacetin and @emwhitenoise have uncovered the fact that their "Managing Editor" plagiarized basically BYT's entire Summer Guide:
http://twitter.com/marissacetinhttp://twitter.com/emwhitenoiseThese guys get press credentials and special access to events? Give me some free tickets and stuff and I'll actually write my own content! And edit it! ;)
sweetcell
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Re: From the same folks that wanted you to write a suicide note
March 26, 2013 at 05:54 PM UTC
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wow. just wow.
"well, the stuff is online, right? and everyone steals everything online, right? so what's the problem with blatantly taking other people's text and adding my name as if i wrote it? i mean, c'mon!"
they changed the attributions in the online version. i got the "original" (unoriginal?) version of the BYT summer guide via email, and ALL blurbs that were previously attributed to Logan Donaldson have been changed to their true authors. what a douche.
DeathFromAbove1979
Joined: November 29, 2006 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: From the same folks that wanted you to write a suicide note
March 26, 2013 at 06:11 PM UTC
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Meh. A good way is to just not read, click, or support anything they do. Which I don't.
MyraEllen
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Re: From the same folks that wanted you to write a suicide note
March 26, 2013 at 06:25 PM UTC
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I don't, either. The news popped up in my twitter feed, but I didn't click through to give them any more hits on their website. It's just lazy at best and unethical at worst. What is sadder, though, is that when they actually produce their own content (aside from the photos), it is just not very good (and that's the most generous way I can put it). They should have their "press" credentials rescinded, but they probably won't, because they'll just delete the offending content, or add attribution later, and pretend that it never happened.
i am gay and i like cats
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Re: From the same folks that wanted you to write a suicide note
March 26, 2013 at 06:50 PM UTC
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how do you know that their own content isnt any good . . . if you dont support, read or click them? i do hate the borrowing of others and calling it your own though. thats why i am on the fence with big freedia. bitch borrow so much, she cant even put out an album.
atomicfront
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Re: From the same folks that wanted you to write a suicide note
March 26, 2013 at 06:58 PM UTC
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From what I have heard big news publications like the Washington Post do the same thing. Take a wire service article and put their names on it. Maybe the editor was hopeful of getting a better job and was practiciing.
MyraEllen
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Re: From the same folks that wanted you to write a suicide note
March 26, 2013 at 07:01 PM UTC
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walkonby wrote:
how do you know that their own content isnt any good . . . if you dont support, read or click them? i do hate the borrowing of others and calling it your own though. thats why i am on the fence with big freedia. bitch borrow so much, she cant even put out an album.
Maybe because I *used* to read it when I first moved back to DC and didn't know any better? Or maybe someone will occasionally alert me to some particularly heinous "writing" of theirs?
They're nonplussed, though:
http://www.washingtoncitypaper.com/blogs/citydesk/2013/03/26/brightest-young-things-editor-accused-of-plagiarism/As for using wire services, newspapers ATTRIBUTE the wire services. It's the lack of attribution that makes it unethical plagiarism.
Yada
Joined: February 05, 2003 at 06:01 AM UTC
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Re: From the same folks that wanted you to write a suicide note
March 26, 2013 at 07:02 PM UTC
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I won a pair of Devendra Banhart tickets off that site back in 2007ish and don't think I've been on since.
showlistdc
Joined: January 27, 2012 at 03:46 PM UTC
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Re: From the same folks that wanted you to write a suicide note
March 27, 2013 at 02:09 AM UTC
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azaghal1981
Joined: June 17, 2004 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: From the same folks that wanted you to write a suicide note
March 27, 2013 at 05:39 AM UTC
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This guy got all butt hurt about my BYT tweets and decided to let me know. For a good hour. Sweet revisionist history he has there.
But back to the topic at hand, watching this all unfold on Twitter was crazy.
Edit: And now you can watch it all, too.
http://storify.com/marissacetin/bright-young-thing-s-managing-editor-lifts-from-ot
showlistdc
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Re: From the same folks that wanted you to write a suicide note
March 27, 2013 at 03:36 PM UTC
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The content on BYT's site has now been edited yet again, and all external content has been completely removed. There's a note at the top of the article that reads:
Ed Note: This post has been updated to include only original content produced by BYT writers.
MyraEllen
Joined: June 11, 2004 at 05:01 AM UTC
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Re: From the same folks that wanted you to write a suicide note
March 27, 2013 at 04:26 PM UTC
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Maybe they'll just get sued by every publication they stole from & it will put them out of business…
MyraEllen
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Re: From the same folks that wanted you to write a suicide note
March 27, 2013 at 04:45 PM UTC
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a blog (that has advertisers & paid staff)/"event production" company…
copyright law provides for statutory damages, as well as injunctions and impoundment and disposition of infringing material…
Businesses that value their IP highly enough don't care if infringers can pay. They sue to deter future infringers.
TVD
Joined: March 16, 2011 at 06:08 PM UTC
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Re: From the same folks that wanted you to write a suicide note
March 27, 2013 at 05:56 PM UTC
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As egregious as BYT lifting content wholesale and posting it without sourcing or attribution, I can tell you from first hand experience that both WCP online and DCist have run with our content unattributed, so for them to be calling out BYT is a bit ridiculous and hypocritical. (My comment to this effect at DCist went unpublished…)
sweetcell
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Re: From the same folks that wanted you to write a suicide note
March 27, 2013 at 06:35 PM UTC
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TVD wrote:
As egregious as BYT lifting content wholesale and posting it without sourcing or attribution, I can tell you from first hand experience that both WCP online and DCist have run with our content unattributed, so for them to be calling out BYT is a bit ridiculous and hypocritical. (My comment to this effect at DCist went unpublished…)
what publication/source are you from? who is "we"? sorry i don't recognize you…
TVD
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Re: From the same folks that wanted you to write a suicide note
March 27, 2013 at 06:37 PM UTC
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The Vinyl District (TVD)
MyraEllen
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Re: From the same folks that wanted you to write a suicide note
March 28, 2013 at 03:33 AM UTC
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Unsanity
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Re: From the same folks that wanted you to write a suicide note
March 28, 2013 at 07:40 AM UTC
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Good! They took some accountability.
TVD wrote:
The Vinyl District (TVD)
When I saw a user called TVD my first thought was "The Vinyl District???" haha.