Nats are the champions!!!!!!!!!!!!

i enjoy a couple brews at most nats games i go to. $9 isn't great, but this is a city that average $6-$7 per draft, plus tip.  and seems like they are doing a good job with keeping the selection interesting - flying dog, brooklyn, sierra nevada, dfh, etc.

Sounds like you should do advance research on Beer Advocate. If you find something that's 95 or above, it's going to be good.

atomicfront wrote:
some place like Frisco tap house and paying the same to try a beer that might not end up tasting all that good.

James wrote:
Sounds like you should do advance research on Beer Advocate. If you find something that's 95 or above, it's going to be good.

atomicfront wrote:
some place like Frisco tap house and paying the same to try a beer that might not end up tasting all that good.

I read that if a beer isn't a super hoppy IPA it will get bad reviews on Beer Advocate.

You've been misinformed.


http://beeradvocate.com/lists/top

Of the top 250 beers, only 67 are IPA's. So that's (at least) 183 non-IPA's that rate a 99 or above.

atomicfront wrote:

James wrote:
Sounds like you should do advance research on Beer Advocate. If you find something that's 95 or above, it's going to be good.

atomicfront wrote:
some place like Frisco tap house and paying the same to try a beer that might not end up tasting all that good.

I read that if a beer isn't a super hoppy IPA it will get bad reviews on Beer Advocate.

atomicfront wrote:

K8teebug wrote:
Yes you can, but nothing beats a beer at a ballgame.  You just don't need 5 of them there.

I do enjoy 4 or 5 beers at the ball park.  I think 8 bucks for a quality beer at a game is more of a deal than going to some place like Frisco tap house and paying the same to try a beer that might not end up tasting all that good.

Frisco Tap House lets you try the beer before you buy it.

James wrote:
That's pretty slim pickens considering you have a potential customer base of 40,000 people a night. Then again your typical baseball fan is probably a Bud Light or Sol drinker, right?

DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:

atomicfront wrote:

DeathFromAbove1979 wrote:

K8teebug wrote:
Don't know if they're doing it this year, but last year they had really cheap beer before the game started.  Thought that was cool.

If you go to the Miller Lite beer walk or whatever it is, the beers are $5 before first pitch.

Nats Park has a good selection of beer, but they're spread all over the place. Kind of a pain.

Before the first pitch is meaningless.  I can go to Pickles and get beer for 2 bucks before the first pitch at Camden Yards.

I'm talking about Nats Park, you dunce.

Here's a list of some of them. I saw an article the other day that had all of the ones in the park and where to find them…. If I can find it again I'll link…

http://dc.thedrinknation.com/articles/read/10350-Nats-Brew-Craft-Beer-Options-at-Nationals-Park

Blergh here's the original post I was reading with a couple more options:

http://www.dcbeer.com/news/home-run-double-strikeout-craft-beer-guide-nationals-stadium

James wrote:
You've been misinformed.


http://beeradvocate.com/lists/top

Of the top 250 beers, only 67 are IPA's. So that's (at least) 183 non-IPA's that rate a 99 or above.

atomicfront wrote:

James wrote:
Sounds like you should do advance research on Beer Advocate. If you find something that's 95 or above, it's going to be good.

atomicfront wrote:
some place like Frisco tap house and paying the same to try a beer that might not end up tasting all that good.

I read that if a beer isn't a super hoppy IPA it will get bad reviews on Beer Advocate.

YOu don't think 67 out of 250 for one beer type isn't kind of weird.  By comparison they only have 2 Pilsners.  No Marzens.  They have a ton of Imperial Stouts. I think you have to find out what you like by tasting it.  I just saw some discussion on there about how they have a friend who usually has good taste in beer but thinks Guiness is the best stout.  And then you have a ton of replies saying how bad Guiness tastes.  Typical pretenious stuff it is kind of pathetic really.

Well Guiness is by far my favorite stout.  Most Stouts are god-awful. 

K8teebug wrote:

atomicfront wrote:

K8teebug wrote:
Yes you can, but nothing beats a beer at a ballgame.  You just don't need 5 of them there.

I do enjoy 4 or 5 beers at the ball park.  I think 8 bucks for a quality beer at a game is more of a deal than going to some place like Frisco tap house and paying the same to try a beer that might not end up tasting all that good.

Frisco Tap House lets you try the beer before you buy it.

Oh I didn't know that.  I don't really like that place as they don't have a beer menu.  I don't like to get on my phone at a bar and have to load all that stuff.  Just print up a beer menu.  I will say the people that work there are friendly.

atomicfront wrote:

K8teebug wrote:

atomicfront wrote:

K8teebug wrote:
Yes you can, but nothing beats a beer at a ballgame.  You just don't need 5 of them there.

I do enjoy 4 or 5 beers at the ball park.  I think 8 bucks for a quality beer at a game is more of a deal than going to some place like Frisco tap house and paying the same to try a beer that might not end up tasting all that good.

Frisco Tap House lets you try the beer before you buy it.

Oh I didn't know that.  I don't really like that place as they don't have a beer menu.  I don't like to get on my phone at a bar and have to load all that stuff.  Just print up a beer menu.  I will say the people that work there are friendly.

They don't have a paper beer menu because it changes so often.  It's printed for you at the bar.  Not a big deal to walk up there and check it out.  And if you're too lazy for that, the servers will always make a good suggestion. 

K8teebug wrote:

atomicfront wrote:

K8teebug wrote:

atomicfront wrote:

K8teebug wrote:
Yes you can, but nothing beats a beer at a ballgame.  You just don't need 5 of them there.

I do enjoy 4 or 5 beers at the ball park.  I think 8 bucks for a quality beer at a game is more of a deal than going to some place like Frisco tap house and paying the same to try a beer that might not end up tasting all that good.

Frisco Tap House lets you try the beer before you buy it.

Oh I didn't know that.  I don't really like that place as they don't have a beer menu.  I don't like to get on my phone at a bar and have to load all that stuff.  Just print up a beer menu.  I will say the people that work there are friendly.

They don't have a paper beer menu because it changes so often.  It's printed for you at the bar.  Not a big deal to walk up there and check it out.  And if you're too lazy for that, the servers will always make a good suggestion. 

I am not too lazy. Other places can print it out.  Max's prints them out.  I don't feel like going up to the bar when they could just print it out.  Anyway I hate Columbia. 

I bet there are far and away more IPA's than pilsners or marzens by American breweries.

There may still be a dispportionate amount of IPA's, but there's still over 70% of the list that is not an IPA.

Beer geeks putting down Guinness is like indie music fans putting down Train or Maroon 5. But if they like stouts and you don't, isn't their opinion perhaps more valuable than yours?

What stouts have you had other than Guinness?

It doesn't surprise me that someone who doesn't like stouts would say that Guinness is their favorite stout.

atomicfront wrote:

James wrote:
You've been misinformed.


http://beeradvocate.com/lists/top

Of the top 250 beers, only 67 are IPA's. So that's (at least) 183 non-IPA's that rate a 99 or above.

atomicfront wrote:

James wrote:
Sounds like you should do advance research on Beer Advocate. If you find something that's 95 or above, it's going to be good.

atomicfront wrote:
some place like Frisco tap house and paying the same to try a beer that might not end up tasting all that good.

I read that if a beer isn't a super hoppy IPA it will get bad reviews on Beer Advocate.

YOu don't think 67 out of 250 for one beer type isn't kind of weird.  By comparison they only have 2 Pilsners.  No Marzens.  They have a ton of Imperial Stouts. I think you have to find out what you like by tasting it.  I just saw some discussion on there about how they have a friend who usually has good taste in beer but thinks Guiness is the best stout.  And then you have a ton of replies saying how bad Guiness tastes.   Typical pretenious stuff it is kind of pathetic really.

Well Guiness is by far my favorite stout.  Most Stouts are god-awful.   

James wrote:
I bet there are far and away more IPA's than pilsners or marzens by American breweries.

There may still be a dispportionate amount of IPA's, but there's still over 70% of the list that is not an IPA.

Beer geeks putting down Guinness is like indie music fans putting down Train or Maroon 5. But if they like stouts and you don't, isn't their opinion perhaps more valuable than yours?

What stouts have you had other than Guinness?

It doesn't surprise me that someone who doesn't like stouts would say that Guinness is their favorite stout.

atomicfront wrote:

James wrote:
You've been misinformed.


http://beeradvocate.com/lists/top

Of the top 250 beers, only 67 are IPA's. So that's (at least) 183 non-IPA's that rate a 99 or above.

atomicfront wrote:

James wrote:
Sounds like you should do advance research on Beer Advocate. If you find something that's 95 or above, it's going to be good.

atomicfront wrote:
some place like Frisco tap house and paying the same to try a beer that might not end up tasting all that good.

I read that if a beer isn't a super hoppy IPA it will get bad reviews on Beer Advocate.

YOu don't think 67 out of 250 for one beer type isn't kind of weird.  By comparison they only have 2 Pilsners.  No Marzens.  They have a ton of Imperial Stouts. I think you have to find out what you like by tasting it.  I just saw some discussion on there about how they have a friend who usually has good taste in beer but thinks Guiness is the best stout.  And then you have a ton of replies saying how bad Guiness tastes.   Typical pretenious stuff it is kind of pathetic really.

Well Guiness is by far my favorite stout.  Most Stouts are god-awful.   

I have had a ton of stouts but I don't remember their names as I don't like them.  I do like Samuel Smiths Stouts.  No Guiness is not like train or maroon 5.  It is like the Beatles.  And how is their opinion more valuable than mine.  Perhaps the reason almost every decent bar has Guiness on tap is because it has actually perfected the genre.  And why would I want the opinion of someone who doesn't like Guiness if I like Guiness? 

I would think more Pilsner is sold than IPA's in this country.  I would think IPA's market share in the US is miniscule.  I would say Lagers outsell Ale's dramatically in this country. How many Lagers are on the Beer Advocate top 250? 

You really are pretty fucking clueless aren't you? Come one, just admit it. Start reading more about the craft beer scene and learn some things. You're as ignorant as I was 10 years ago.


If someone is a fan of something, it's probably going to make their opinion more informed and thus valid that someone who is not a fan of something.

Every bar had Guinness on draft because Guinness has perfected the genre? Has Budweiser perfected the lager genre?

Have you had any stouts by AMERICAN breweries? Any imperial stouts?

More pilsner beer might be sold in America, but i can guarantee you there are more IPA's produced in America. Practically every craft brewery that opens makes an IPA, much fewer make a pilsner.

atomicfront wrote:

James wrote:
I bet there are far and away more IPA's than pilsners or marzens by American breweries.

There may still be a dispportionate amount of IPA's, but there's still over 70% of the list that is not an IPA.

Beer geeks putting down Guinness is like indie music fans putting down Train or Maroon 5. But if they like stouts and you don't, isn't their opinion perhaps more valuable than yours?

What stouts have you had other than Guinness?

It doesn't surprise me that someone who doesn't like stouts would say that Guinness is their favorite stout.

atomicfront wrote:

James wrote:
You've been misinformed.


http://beeradvocate.com/lists/top

Of the top 250 beers, only 67 are IPA's. So that's (at least) 183 non-IPA's that rate a 99 or above.

atomicfront wrote:

James wrote:
Sounds like you should do advance research on Beer Advocate. If you find something that's 95 or above, it's going to be good.

atomicfront wrote:
some place like Frisco tap house and paying the same to try a beer that might not end up tasting all that good.

I read that if a beer isn't a super hoppy IPA it will get bad reviews on Beer Advocate.

YOu don't think 67 out of 250 for one beer type isn't kind of weird.  By comparison they only have 2 Pilsners.  No Marzens.  They have a ton of Imperial Stouts. I think you have to find out what you like by tasting it.  I just saw some discussion on there about how they have a friend who usually has good taste in beer but thinks Guiness is the best stout.  And then you have a ton of replies saying how bad Guiness tastes.   Typical pretenious stuff it is kind of pathetic really.

Well Guiness is by far my favorite stout.  Most Stouts are god-awful.   

I have had a ton of stouts but I don't remember their names as I don't like them.  I do like Samuel Smiths Stouts.  No Guiness is not like train or maroon 5.  It is like the Beatles.  And how is their opinion more valuable than mine.  Perhaps the reason almost every decent bar has Guiness on tap is because it has actually perfected the genre.  And why would I want the opinion of someone who doesn't like Guiness if I like Guiness?   

I would think more Pilsner is sold than IPA's in this country.  I would think IPA's market share in the US is miniscule.  I would say Lagers outsell Ale's dramatically in this country. How many Lagers are on the Beer Advocate top 250?   

James Ford you are so darn predictable.. everything you do is about the "rating" be it beer or music.. how about you decide for yourself what you like instead of going by the so called "experts" opinion?

Its very easy to like what you're told you should like.. it takes some guts to actually like what you like…

This may all be a foreign concept for you but life is about marching to the beat of your own drummer.

You sound like a spokesperson for the Tea Party putting down the educated liberal elites.

Or one of those old school scouts in Moneyball.

Aggregated data doesn't lie.

hutch wrote:
James Ford you are so darn predictable.. everything you do is about the "rating" be it beer or music.. how about you decide for yourself what you like instead of going by the so called "experts" opinion?

Its very easy to like what you're told you should like.. it takes some guts to actually like what you like…

This may all be a foreign concept for you but life is about marching to the beat of your own drummer.

The reason small craft breweries make Ales and not Lagers is very simple.  It is a hell of a lot cheaper.  To make a lager you need cooling equipment.  It takes longer to make a Lager.  IPA's are simple beers to make.  You can cover up everything you did wrong in the fermentation process with the overpowering flavor of the hops.

Also it is easy to convince someone in America that an IPA is cool.  As most Americans are used to flavorless lagers that havd adjuncts like corn and rice.  So you give them something in the opposite direction and they think that is what they should be drinking.

As for the quality of beer. There are a ton of German Lagers that are probably better than most of the stuff on the Beer Advocate list.  I don't like IPA's in general.  It is the same as I don't like going to a restaurant and only being able to taste salt.  I want to taste my beers flavors.  Not just the hops.

I hope to become an expert on beer making.  I am just a novice.  Making stuff from recipe kits.  I am currently making a Kolsch from a kit using German Ale yeast.  It is cool how there is all this different yeast and hops and malts and so many options on types of beers to make.  I hope to become an expert on beer like some of the other people on here who make their own beer.  And hopefully I can make a lot of beer that I love. 

But if someone gives Guiness a bad rating I know I won't use them as a reference. As either we have disimilar taste or they are just attacking whomever is on top. 

And I don't know why he got into this big argument when I said 8 bucks wasn't that bad to pay for craft beer at a ball game.

IPA's are cheaper to make. I dunno if that helps anything.

James wrote:
You sound like a spokesperson for the Tea Party putting down the educated liberal elites.

Or one of those old school scouts in Moneyball.

Aggregated data doesn't lie.

hutch wrote:
James Ford you are so darn predictable.. everything you do is about the "rating" be it beer or music.. how about you decide for yourself what you like instead of going by the so called "experts" opinion?

Its very easy to like what you're told you should like.. it takes some guts to actually like what you like…

This may all be a foreign concept for you but life is about marching to the beat of your own drummer.

you're a fool… you're essentially saying that aggregated data tells you what you SHOULD like..

that's beyond silly… aggregated data has no way of accounting for your personal taste… or how your personal taste was shaped..of course in your case you have no personal taste….. why do you ever offer an opinion on anything if its only to regurgitate the latest beer rating or music ratings?

but its clear- from years of following your posts- that in everything you do you basically look to be told what to do…sad.

if a new album comes out and the critics like it well then by golly you should like it.. if there's a new beer and it gets a high rating then by golly you are going to be drinking it and LIKING it….

weak dude. very weak.

and if you cared to look at the actual data you'd see that for all the moneyball hype that moneyball class didn't do that well in the end..

No shit. If someone came on here and was talking about how some drone-noise band got a high metacritic score, Ford would be all "Why do you need outside validation to bolster your opinions? Why can't you just like what you like? I would never let someone tell me what I like. I'd rather spend that time being a good dad to my daughter."