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Best Band in the World Today

kmdobrz
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Re: Best Band in the World Today April 24, 2013 at 06:00 PM UTC #
I like Wilco, but I admit the last few shows I've attended have been practically carbon copies of each other.

And I mostly mentioned them because I know how much the thread starter loves them.  
hutch
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Re: Best Band in the World Today April 24, 2013 at 06:04 PM UTC #
Shemp wrote:
I like Wilco, but I admit the last few shows I've attended have been practically carbon copies of each other.

And I mostly mentioned them because I know how much the thread starter loves them.  


I like Wilco….I loved Wilco in the late 1990s..I was there man!!!! :)

When Jay Bennett was fired in another typical Tweedy dick move the band went south..they lost the sense of fun and became more of a prog rock outfit… Nels Cline is a great guitarist but he doesn't make the kind of music I like…

I still go see them every once in a while and hope to be there for the Bob show… if so I'll enjoy seeing Wilco but they are way past their moment…on the way down..
atomicfront
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Re: Best Band in the World Today April 24, 2013 at 06:06 PM UTC #
James wrote:
Well I guess Wilco is INDEED boring. Two guys said it on the internet, so it must be true!

hutch wrote:
atomicfront wrote:
hutch wrote:
Shemp wrote:
Wilco, hands down.


you know how you know this isn't true?

when you go see them live pretty much all the songs people like are the ones jay bennett was involved with… the stuff on the past many albums just isn't that great…

let me frame it another way… if wilco had never cut being there, summerteeth, or yankee hotel foxtrot would anybody be paying attention?

the highlights of nick cave's show at the strathmore were arguably jubilee street and higgs bosom blues (sic)…two new songs.


I have seen Wilco twice live and found them incredibly boring.  I dont like their recorded material either though.


well..their new stuff (meaning the past decade) is largely incredibly boring…but Tweedy is smart and he knows how to make a set list..so he mixes in a few old chestnuts among the new stuff and then ends with a bang of new songs and everybody is happy…



It is our opinion.  And at least we came up with an opinion. 
vansmack
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Re: Best Band in the World Today April 24, 2013 at 06:13 PM UTC #
Did U2 break up? 

Because I'm pretty sure these threads are banned until that happens.
hutch
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Re: Best Band in the World Today April 24, 2013 at 06:18 PM UTC #
vansmack wrote:
Did U2 break up? 

Because I'm pretty sure these threads are banned until that happens.


To be the greatest band in the world you have to remain relevant..you can't just be a greatest hits act…you can't be a band that has recorded like five albums since the last one but refuses to release them because you lack confidence they are any good (by the way I wish they would release their stuff with Dangermouse)…you have to be somewhere even remotely near the vanguard not hugging the rear…doesn't mean their live show isn't good..
sweetcell
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Re: Best Band in the World Today April 24, 2013 at 06:32 PM UTC #
i believe it's a toss up between Mumford & sons, and Amanda Palmer.
James Ford
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Re: Best Band in the World Today April 24, 2013 at 06:33 PM UTC #
Yes, because Nick Cave is so relevant. What does "relevant" even mean? Relevant to who? 40 year old "men" who spend their Saturdays at record stores rather than playing with their kids?
atomicfront
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Re: Best Band in the World Today April 24, 2013 at 06:52 PM UTC #
sweetcell wrote:
i believe it's a toss up between Mumford & sons, and Amanda Palmer.


Amanda Palmer definitely wins in that battle.
atomicfront
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Re: Best Band in the World Today April 24, 2013 at 06:53 PM UTC #
James wrote:
Yes, because Nick Cave is so relevant. What does "relevant" even mean? Relevant to who? 40 year old "men" who spend their Saturdays at record stores rather than playing with their kids?


Does hutch have kids?
hutch
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Re: Best Band in the World Today April 24, 2013 at 06:55 PM UTC #
James wrote:
Yes, because Nick Cave is so relevant. What does "relevant" even mean? Relevant to who? 40 year old "men" who spend their Saturdays at record stores rather than playing with their kids?


I would say relevant to people who love music…and who like to make music…

Come to think of it perhaps your definition of man is different from mine.. to me a man, even when he has kids, continues living life… kids don't mean you stop going to concerts or record stores… now a castrated man believes that he has to be at home at all times taking orders from his woman on what he can and can't do… that's not a man, that's a has been.
hutch
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Re: Best Band in the World Today April 24, 2013 at 07:02 PM UTC #
atomicfront wrote:
James wrote:
Yes, because Nick Cave is so relevant. What does "relevant" even mean? Relevant to who? 40 year old "men" who spend their Saturdays at record stores rather than playing with their kids?


Does hutch have kids?



there was a picture here but James Ford is a creep so I had to remove it.
James Ford
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Re: Best Band in the World Today April 24, 2013 at 07:03 PM UTC #
I think most people in the world would claim they love music. However, most people probably have never heard the name "Nick Cave".

Of course, I guess Hutch gets to define what "people who love music" is.


hutch wrote:
James wrote:
Yes, because Nick Cave is so relevant. What does "relevant" even mean? Relevant to who? 40 year old "men" who spend their Saturdays at record stores rather than playing with their kids?


I would say relevant to people who love music…and who like to make music…

Come to think of it perhaps your definition of man is different from mine.. to me a man, even when he has kids, continues living life… kids don't mean you stop going to concerts or record stores… now a castrated man believes that he has to be at home at all times taking orders from his woman on what he can and can't do… that's not a man, that's a has been.
Relaxer
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Re: Best Band in the World Today April 24, 2013 at 07:03 PM UTC #
Regardless of your opinion on U2, they do continue to put out records and then tour those records. The fact that they have 30 years of songs that are beloved by millions doesn't make them relevant. Which is really a stupid metric anyway. U2 aren't relevant despite the fact that their tours are huge sellers, their back catalog still sells and their new albums sell.

I guess what you call relevant are bands that sell 2,000 copies of their record, play a half-filled U St Music Hall but have really cool hair.

Also, this:
relevant to people who love music…and who like to make music…


might be the dumbest thing I've read on the Internet in a whole week. "Relevant to people who love music" Well THERE is a solid metric.
James Ford
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Re: Best Band in the World Today April 24, 2013 at 07:05 PM UTC #
Cute kids, but a thought:

I't probably not a good idea to put pictures of your kids on an internet message board. Too many creeps out there.
hutch
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Re: Best Band in the World Today April 24, 2013 at 07:06 PM UTC #
James wrote:
I think most people in the world would claim they love music. However, most people probably have never heard the name "Nick Cave".

Of course, I guess Hutch gets to define what "people who love music" is.


hutch wrote:
James wrote:
Yes, because Nick Cave is so relevant. What does "relevant" even mean? Relevant to who? 40 year old "men" who spend their Saturdays at record stores rather than playing with their kids?


I would say relevant to people who love music…and who like to make music…

Come to think of it perhaps your definition of man is different from mine.. to me a man, even when he has kids, continues living life… kids don't mean you stop going to concerts or record stores… now a castrated man believes that he has to be at home at all times taking orders from his woman on what he can and can't do… that's not a man, that's a has been.





what are you guys on? Nick Cave's last album debuted at number one in a bunch of countries and was top 10 in the US..

I'm not making the argument that sales determine relevance but Cave's new album has sold its fair share..by some measures its his most successful album yet.
hutch
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Re: Best Band in the World Today April 24, 2013 at 07:11 PM UTC #
Relaxer wrote:
Regardless of your opinion on U2, they do continue to put out records



actually NO.. they have recorded a bunch of records since the last one and have not put them out… because they're U2 they can afford infinite studio time and whatever producer is the flavor of the month but they are not putting out records….

Relaxer
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Re: Best Band in the World Today April 24, 2013 at 07:27 PM UTC #
hutch wrote:
actually NO.. they have recorded a bunch of records since the last one and have not put them out… because they're U2 they can afford infinite studio time and whatever producer is the flavor of the month but they are not putting out records….


So you're saying that they don't continue to put out new records? I don't give a shit about all that other nonsense you're writing about, I want to know if you believe they are no longer putting out new records.
vansmack
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Re: Best Band in the World Today April 24, 2013 at 07:42 PM UTC #
James wrote:
Cute kids, but a thought:

I't probably not a good idea to put pictures of your kids on an internet message board. Too many creeps out there.


Charlie wrote:
Thanks for all of your kind words. This is really a wonderful time for both of us.

And since some of y'all asked, here's some pics from her first hours on earth. Be nice, I know I'm an old man/dork! Thankfully, she looks just like her mommy.

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atomicfront
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Re: Best Band in the World Today April 24, 2013 at 07:46 PM UTC #
This is an opinion thread. So if in your opinion the band is putting out the best albums in the world now than you can list them.  All other metrics are unimportant. 
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