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bunnyman
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Re: Shutdown playlist January 23, 2018 at 02:09 PM UTC #
hutch wrote:
Look they came in the country illegally…I think we need way more immigration and I am pro amnesty for everyone but the only way to accomplish that is to win elections and Democrats need to stop being the party of illegal immigrants and Muslims or they will lose the midterms and trump will be re-elected in 2020


You summed up why this issue isn't polling well in marginal districts and why people don't give a crap about someone who came into the country as a minor (probably not even by their own choice) and now wants to try to stay here. I don't think people realize how HARD it is now for someone who is seeking asylum in this country to stay here. Imagine you're a North Korean refugee and you want to stay here because you have a relative in this country. You know you what you need? A birth certificate. BUT North Koreans are never ISSUED birth certificates. So what do you need? A lawyer to help your argument to stay. The system is changing and making it harder for anyone who wants to become a US citizen.  And as the son of immigrants, I feel pretty disgusted when people don't have an ounce of common sense that they are lucky and privileged to be Americans but clearly don't have a shred of empathy just because they're a generation or 3 removed from the issue. The shutdown should not have happened. Over any issue. And it's ugly that what has surfaced is a "not for THESE people" sentiment. It stems right from the "shithole countries" comment.
beetsnotbeats
Joined: April 26, 2002 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 5756
Re: Shutdown playlist January 23, 2018 at 03:15 PM UTC #
bearman🐻 wrote:
hutch wrote:
Look they came in the country illegally…I think we need way more immigration and I am pro amnesty for everyone but the only way to accomplish that is to win elections and Democrats need to stop being the party of illegal immigrants and Muslims or they will lose the midterms and trump will be re-elected in 2020


You summed up why this issue isn't polling well in marginal districts and why people don't give a crap about someone who came into the country as a minor (probably not even by their own choice) and now wants to try to stay here. I don't think people realize how HARD it is now for someone who is seeking asylum in this country to stay here. Imagine you're a North Korean refugee and you want to stay here because you have a relative in this country. You know you what you need? A birth certificate. BUT North Koreans are never ISSUED birth certificates. So what do you need? A lawyer to help your argument to stay. The system is changing and making it harder for anyone who wants to become a US citizen.  And as the son of immigrants, I feel pretty disgusted when people don't have an ounce of common sense that they are lucky and privileged to be Americans but clearly don't have a shred of empathy just because they're a generation or 3 removed from the issue. The shutdown should not have happened. Over any issue. And it's ugly that what has surfaced is a "not for THESE people" sentiment. It stems right from the "shithole countries" comment.


BOOM!
jrpa
Joined: September 03, 2013 at 03:15 PM UTC
Posts: 29999
Re: Shutdown playlist January 23, 2018 at 03:32 PM UTC #
ggw wrote:
We need a system like Canada, where immigration is based on merit and not on whether you are lucky enough to have a relative in the country.

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/06/28/opinion/canada-immigration-policy-trump.html
Agreed. We are far to the left of Canada on this issue which is not something we say very often.
Sidehatch
Joined: October 04, 2011 at 04:33 AM UTC
Posts: 25687
Re: Shutdown playlist December 22, 2018 at 06:33 PM UTC #
oops i did it again britney spears
Idiot Wind bob dylan

and only because there was a ref down below…listening and oldie but goodie "where are my legs" SNFU
hutch
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Re: Shutdown playlist December 22, 2018 at 07:39 PM UTC #
Millefleur wrote:
oops i did it again britney spears
Idiot Wind bob dylan

and only because there was a ref down below…listening and oldie but goodie "where are my legs" SNFU


English my good man
vansmack
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Re: Shutdown playlist December 24, 2018 at 08:01 PM UTC #
The Wall - Pink Floyd
Sidehatch
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Re: Shutdown playlist December 25, 2018 at 02:05 PM UTC #
Crumblin' down- John Mellencamp
Off the wall - MJ
Piss on the wall - j. Giles
Balls to the wall -Accept (used to love this song)
Break down the walls - youth of today
Building a wall -  petshop boys
Wall of death - Richard and Linda Thompson
Behind the Wall of sleep - the smithereens
Sugar walls - Sheena Easton
Charlotte sometimes - the cure
The walls came down - the call
Space Freely
Joined: December 13, 2014 at 07:28 PM UTC
Posts: 11019
Re: Shutdown playlist December 25, 2018 at 05:19 PM UTC #
Millefleur wrote:
Crumblin' down- John Mellencamp
Off the wall - MJ
Piss on the wall - j. Giles
Balls to the wall -Accept (used to love this song)
Break down the walls - youth of today
Building a wall -  petshop boys
Wall of death - Richard and Linda Thompson
Behind the Wall of sleep - the smithereens
Sugar walls - Sheena Easton
Charlotte sometimes - the cure
The walls came down - the call


What do you mean used to?
phillidan
Joined: September 17, 2004 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 292
Re: Shutdown playlist December 26, 2018 at 03:12 AM UTC #
American Ruse - MC 5
grateful
Joined: October 15, 2008 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 11564
Re: Shutdown playlist December 26, 2018 at 03:47 PM UTC #
So few songs for the exempt…
walkonbyeeeeeeeee
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Re: Shutdown playlist December 27, 2018 at 05:53 PM UTC #
Midnight Oil - Someone else to blame
Sidehatch
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Posts: 25687
Re: Shutdown playlist January 07, 2019 at 06:47 PM UTC #
Ace ~ How Long (Has This Been Going On)
Captain & Tennille ~ Do That To Me One More Time
eddie
Joined: September 23, 1999 at 05:01 AM UTC
Posts: 5166
Re: Shutdown playlist January 11, 2019 at 07:26 PM UTC #
That Joke Isn't Funny Anymore - The Smiths
One Eyed Dollar - Clutch
Open Up The Border - Clutch
grateful
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Posts: 11564
Re: Shutdown playlist September 29, 2023 at 08:07 PM UTC #
hanky/lanky-Hatchıll|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|̲̅̅=̲̅̅|̲̅̅●̲̅̅|llıl wrote:
It's sad how often this thread comes back to life

Shut em down - public enemy


Revived.
Space Freely
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Re: Shutdown playlist October 02, 2023 at 01:20 PM UTC #
Loser-Beck (dedicated to Matt Gaetz)
Sidehatch
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Posts: 25687
Re: Shutdown playlist November 10, 2023 at 03:59 PM UTC #
do we need to dust this thread off


Ray Charles - Here we go again
Sidehatch
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Re: Shutdown playlist November 15, 2023 at 06:16 PM UTC #
Hutch wrote:
Interesting

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-67422336

I wonder if Mike Johnson can last

chip roy is pissed
https://x.com/Acyn/status/1724846391459975559?s=20
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