Beck

First of all, mentioning Beck alongside Dylan and Zappa??? Yeah right.

And regarding his comments that Scientology is "a philosophy and a set of ideals common to many religions". WHATEVER. Here's a little primer for you:

- A person is an immortal spiritual being (termed a thetan) who possesses a mind and a body.
- The thetan has lived through many past lives and will continue to live beyond the death of the body.
- Through the Scientology process of "auditing," people can free themselves of traumatic incidents, ethical transgressions and bad decisions which are said to collectively restrict the person from reaching the state of "Clear" and "Operating Thetan." Each state is said to represent the recovery of native spiritual abilities and to confer mental and physical benefits.
- A person is basically good, but becomes "aberrated" by moments of pain and unconsciousness.
- Psychiatry and psychology are destructive and abusive practices

And now the really fun part….curious about what a "thetan" is?


According to Scientology, when a person dies â?? or, in Scientology terms, when a thetan abandons its physical body â?? they go to a "landing station" on the planet Venus, where the thetan is re-implanted and told lies about its past life and its next life. The Venusians take the thetan, "capsule" it, and send it back to Earth to be dumped into the ocean off the coast of California. Says Hubbard, "If you can get out of that, and through that, and wander around through the cities and find some girl who looks like she is going to get married or have a baby or something like that, you're all set. And if you can find the maternity ward to a hospital or something, you're OK. And you just eventually just pick up a baby."
Bingo…his stretch of albums, b-sides and comp tracks from the "MTV" single through One Foot In the Grave are pretty flawless. After that, I started losing interest more and more with each album. And I used to be a HUGE fan…I even spent way too much money on an original "MTV" 7-inch.

Originally posted by azaghal1981:
One Foot in the Grave is as good as it gets Beck-wise for me.
beck's barely a scientologist. he's not even OTI. that's like a jew who was never bar mitzvahed.
Originally posted by chaz:
First of all, mentioning Beck alongside Dylan and Zappa??? Yeah right.

I was merely comparing them as I've read that all three are/were pretty difficult to work with. As much as I love Beck, he is nowhere near the same league as guys like Dylan and Zappa, who happen to be my two favorite musicians. Even with as many great albums as Beck has, he has years to go before he reaches that status. I'm not doubting that he may get there, but not yet.
Originally posted by gaaaaaaaaah:
Originally posted by chaz:
First of all, mentioning Beck alongside Dylan and Zappa??? Yeah right.

I was merely comparing them as I've read that all three are/were pretty difficult to work with. As much as I love Beck, he is nowhere near the same league as guys like Dylan and Zappa, who happen to be my two favorite musicians. Even with as many great albums as Beck has, he has years to go before he reaches that status. I'm not doubting that he may get there, but not yet.
Sorry pal, he'll never get there.
Originally posted by chaz:
Originally posted by gaaaaaaaaah:
Originally posted by chaz:
First of all, mentioning Beck alongside Dylan and Zappa??? Yeah right.

I was merely comparing them as I've read that all three are/were pretty difficult to work with. As much as I love Beck, he is nowhere near the same league as guys like Dylan and Zappa, who happen to be my two favorite musicians. Even with as many great albums as Beck has, he has years to go before he reaches that status. I'm not doubting that he may get there, but not yet.
Sorry pal, he'll never get there.
Fair enough, but honestly, what are the odds of anyone reaching the level of Dylan/Zappa? Dylan has done more for songwriting than anyone sle in any genre, and Zappa wrote some of the most complicated music to ever see any amount of commercial success. Views on his humor/lyrics aside, it's undeniable that Zappa was one of the most talented musicians to ever record. And as I've said, Dylan's influence can be seen on just about everyone that writes a song these days, so comparing Beck to these guys is moot anyway.

That being said, I still believe Beck to be one of the most consistently creative musicians of this generation.
but beck put out an album with movable stickers and homemade videos. take that guy who sold a song to victoria secret.

and i love that description of the religion. sort of like buddhism meets something only out of the mind of a brilliant writer. way to go l. ron. we speak your name.
The stickers were indeed amazing.

And the Victoria's Secret commercial Dylan was in, while very creepy, was hilarious to me, because someone asked him in the 60's what product he'd sell his songs to advertise for, and he answered woman's underwear.

Would it be more or less weird if it was a Zappa song in the Victoria's Secret commercial?
*imagines Victoria's Secret angels walking the catwalk while "Catholic Girls" plays in the background*