Who are all of these supposed hipsters? What makes one a hipster? Also can you list out the names of all of these supposed pirates so they can be publicly shamed?
Thievery Corporation closes label
hutch wrote:Got wrote:
i enjoy using streaming services like spotify, pandora, etc. life changes, business models change, deal with it
Deal with what? You streaming? Why should I care?
Many people now drive and use their smartphones while they drive endangering everyone around them? Should I do that too? Or should I stand like a zombie at metro platform punching into my smartphone like most people? I need to do that because times change? Umm….sorry.. .no.
I don't have to deal with that but you do.
It is against the law to drive and use a hand held cellphone. I don't know why you are comparing that to something that is legal and supported by the record labels. Wait because you don't use streaming it is wrong? It is nice to be at work and be able to basically listen to any album in the world instantly.
hutch wrote:Got wrote:
i enjoy using streaming services like spotify, pandora, etc. life changes, business models change, deal with it
Deal with what? You streaming? Why should I care?
Many people now drive and use their smartphones while they drive endangering everyone around them? Should I do that too? Or should I stand like a zombie at metro platform punching into my smartphone like most people? I need to do that because times change? Umm….sorry.. .no.
I don't have to deal with that but you do.
bwah!
hutch wrote:How do you know what setups people have for music consumption? You are making assumptions on people's consumptions and presenting it as fact.
i just can't deal with people who listen to music streamed on shitpie laptop speakers or their phones and think they're doing the world a favor and are cool…
Hexenjagd wrote:hutch wrote:How do you know what setups people have for music consumption? You are making assumptions on people's consumptions and presenting it as fact.
i just can't deal with people who listen to music streamed on shitpie laptop speakers or their phones and think they're doing the world a favor and are cool…
Also, when I am at work I can't have thousand dollar speakers blaring music. Hutch what is your set-up at work?
People. Just understand. Hutch just loves music more than you and is more deserving of its pleasures.
If you had a job of any importance you probably wouldn't be listening to music at work. Or posting on music message boards.
Hexenjagd wrote:hutch wrote:How do you know what setups people have for music consumption? You are making assumptions on people's consumptions and presenting it as fact.
i just can't deal with people who listen to music streamed on shitpie laptop speakers or their phones and think they're doing the world a favor and are cool…
James wrote:
If you had a job of any importance you probably wouldn't be listening to music at work. Or posting on music message boards.Hexenjagd wrote:hutch wrote:How do you know what setups people have for music consumption? You are making assumptions on people's consumptions and presenting it as fact.
i just can't deal with people who listen to music streamed on shitpie laptop speakers or their phones and think they're doing the world a favor and are cool…
I'm sorry, I was sounding a bit like my wife there for a minute.
How would work be bearable for anyone without music and message boards?
How would work be bearable for anyone without music and message boards?
Yada wrote:James wrote:
If you had a job of any importance you probably wouldn't be listening to music at work. Or posting on music message boards.Hexenjagd wrote:hutch wrote:How do you know what setups people have for music consumption? You are making assumptions on people's consumptions and presenting it as fact.
i just can't deal with people who listen to music streamed on shitpie laptop speakers or their phones and think they're doing the world a favor and are cool…
Hexenjagd wrote:hutch wrote:How do you know what setups people have for music consumption? You are making assumptions on people's consumptions and presenting it as fact.
i just can't deal with people who listen to music streamed on shitpie laptop speakers or their phones and think they're doing the world a favor and are cool…
definitely I retract any assumption about people on this board if it was made! certainly i was not making it about everyone…i remember being at sidehatch's house though, a guy who used to have a stereo system I used to rock out to nicely, and him and his wife were playing me some new "hot" song out of their crappy laptop speaker (the laptop looked nice i will admit)….
just a general societal trend that is visible to anyone with a set of eyes….
just like I saw a lady driving and internetting on her smart phone 30 minutes ago..
its what people are doing.. and the fact people are doing things doesn't mean anything
I'm a salmon baby.
chaz wrote:
People. Just understand. Hutch just loves music more than you and is more deserving of its pleasures.
that doesn't seem entirely fair chaz….
but it is noted that the fact that ESL, one of the few local record labels of any note, has closed down has been met with a general yawn.. who gives a shit….
really ESL and Dischord are all I can think of… .any others of any substance at all?
hutch wrote:
I'm a salmon baby.
Those fish all die after fighting against all those rocks and currents.
They might not be substantial to you, but I personally dig the music that a few local record labels release.
Friends Records
Fan Death Records
I Had an Accident Records
Accidental Guest Records
Ehse Records
(only covering Baltimore and Annapolis, I cant think of any DC ones right now…)
Friends Records
Fan Death Records
I Had an Accident Records
Accidental Guest Records
Ehse Records
(only covering Baltimore and Annapolis, I cant think of any DC ones right now…)
hutch wrote:chaz wrote:
People. Just understand. Hutch just loves music more than you and is more deserving of its pleasures.
that doesn't seem entirely fair chaz….
Probably not. But live and let live my man! Life is short!
I feel ya about the crappy sound part.
I used to have the sweetest system. But life got crazy, I sold it off piece by piece. One day i'll do it again. One day.
This conversation again? Or should I say still?
The music industry had everybody on board with Napster and rather than embracing new technologies and delivery models, they fought it. The movie industry did the same thing initially, but decided to embrace alternative pay models sooner and are benefiting.
When are all other content producers going to realize the porn industry model? They continue to make money hand over fist by embracing new technologies and delivery models and being early adopters. How is it working for them an no one else despite being (semi) limited to an 18 and over restriction?
Because they're not assholes, adjust to their audience quickly and embrace new technologies. Hell they drive some of them!
It's time to stop blaming the consumers on this one and look long and hard at the resistance from the industry while the consumers needs and desires passed them by.
The music industry had everybody on board with Napster and rather than embracing new technologies and delivery models, they fought it. The movie industry did the same thing initially, but decided to embrace alternative pay models sooner and are benefiting.
When are all other content producers going to realize the porn industry model? They continue to make money hand over fist by embracing new technologies and delivery models and being early adopters. How is it working for them an no one else despite being (semi) limited to an 18 and over restriction?
Because they're not assholes, adjust to their audience quickly and embrace new technologies. Hell they drive some of them!
It's time to stop blaming the consumers on this one and look long and hard at the resistance from the industry while the consumers needs and desires passed them by.
Hexenjagd wrote:
They might not be substantial to you, but I personally dig the music that a few local record labels release.
Friends Records
Fan Death Records
I Had an Accident Records
Accidental Guest Records
Ehse Records
(only covering Baltimore and Annapolis, I cant think of any DC ones right now…)
I was thinking of Friends record as being the best local label. I have a bunch of their releases. Never heard of the label Hutch is going on and on about.
I am with you on Friends… I have a ton of their cassettes and vinyl, and go to a lot of the Friends heavy bands shows in town… Plus Jimmy is the nicest dude in the Baltimore music scene.
Also I guess Accidental Guest is a DC based label, since it is ran by one guy who lives in NW DC…
James wrote:
If you had a job of any importance you probably wouldn't be listening to music at work. Or posting on music message boards.Hexenjagd wrote:hutch wrote:How do you know what setups people have for music consumption? You are making assumptions on people's consumptions and presenting it as fact.
i just can't deal with people who listen to music streamed on shitpie laptop speakers or their phones and think they're doing the world a favor and are cool…
100 years from now no one is going to care what you did at work. I don't know about you but I prefer not being at work. When I am there I do prefer to make it somewhat bearable. Music helps.
vansmack wrote:
It's time to stop blaming the consumers on this one and look long and hard at the resistance from the industry while the consumers needs and desires passed them by.
Huh? Like what? Consumers are largely perfectly happy streaming music for free or at most paying 9.99 for accesss to a bazillion records..
WHat else can the music industry do? They've handed over almost their entire catalogs- with notable exceptions- to non-music businesses who don't give a rats butt about music …
The artist is the one getting ripped off.. not the consumer….I don't see the consumers on this thread feeling jacked or clamoring for better sound or more free music… the message is "hey mac its the way it is.. get with the program"
As I wrote earlier in this thread- completely ignored I note- record companies and a&r men provided a music industry service…they specialized in music….spotify does not specialize in music…they specialize in music delivery… they are the equivalent of the guys who used to take the cds from the warehouse to the Tower Records and the Tower Records itself… music provision is not music creation…..the music industry service has been replaced by what people keep referring to as a "business model" without actually defining it which seems to consist of music should be free baby cause thats just the way it is..
I can't speak to the porn industry I'm afraid… ;D