Wait….why is there even a UK version of napster vs a US version? It's all the same internet.
Downloading music vs subscriptions
Originally posted by walkonby:well it's more a problem due to content ownership and licensing as the reason why we the in the US can't legally use Napster UK or the BBC service. BBC is apparently working on opening up their service to us…
and yet the cds i have here, play just fine in the uk and vice verse. double hmmm . . .
the same restrictions exist for certain US video sites not being able to be used in the UK.
the globe maybe smaller due to the internet, but plenty of barriers still exist for the legal flow of content.
Good, really good, even bedazzling to see "progressive rock" mentioned on the 9:30 forum. I'm a long time fan of the genre, but I don't think we ever touched the subject with a ten foot pole back when I was on the this board posting constantly in the late 90s.
Wait, I think Econo and I discussed Can a little bit. Or was that Natty? Anyway, we fashioned ourselves as indie/post-punk hipster snobs. No other genre need apply, wouldn't you say?
Paul3Mac, I used to like owning the recorded product, too. Believe me, I've been "owning" them for more years than I care to admit and have amassed a mammoth collection. That's the problem.
I had to weigh "ownership" against the enormous hassle of moving my collection every time I relocated. I just moved from Arlington to Sylvia Spring and it was the last straw. I'm pretty nomadic and don't see that changing. The weight and space of my CDs, vinyl albums and books far exceed all my other possessions combined. (The appliance to help me replace my books with an automated device—not sure of the jargon—is Amazon's Kindle. That's next.)
One thing I WILL miss by giving up ownership, and I will miss it greatly—is album cover art (both sides), inserts, credits, lyric booklets, etc. But that's another subject. I've been meaning to start a thread on that. I'll get to it one of these days. Or has it been discussed already on this forum?
Wait, I think Econo and I discussed Can a little bit. Or was that Natty? Anyway, we fashioned ourselves as indie/post-punk hipster snobs. No other genre need apply, wouldn't you say?
Paul3Mac, I used to like owning the recorded product, too. Believe me, I've been "owning" them for more years than I care to admit and have amassed a mammoth collection. That's the problem.
I had to weigh "ownership" against the enormous hassle of moving my collection every time I relocated. I just moved from Arlington to Sylvia Spring and it was the last straw. I'm pretty nomadic and don't see that changing. The weight and space of my CDs, vinyl albums and books far exceed all my other possessions combined. (The appliance to help me replace my books with an automated device—not sure of the jargon—is Amazon's Kindle. That's next.)
One thing I WILL miss by giving up ownership, and I will miss it greatly—is album cover art (both sides), inserts, credits, lyric booklets, etc. But that's another subject. I've been meaning to start a thread on that. I'll get to it one of these days. Or has it been discussed already on this forum?
Oops. I went back and ready your post, Paul3Mac. Seems the yung'uns have a different defition of "own" in the context of music. I forgot one can own by downloading, and not have a physical product.
Fair enough, but don't you whipper snappers lament the lack of album art and inserts, or has downloading songs by themselves become so entrenched that accompanying visual aesthetics are no longer even relevant?
Fair enough, but don't you whipper snappers lament the lack of album art and inserts, or has downloading songs by themselves become so entrenched that accompanying visual aesthetics are no longer even relevant?
Originally posted by OscarTheWilde:That's a good question, it has me wondering what the 15 year olds are doing these days. I'm only 10 years past that age myself, but seeing as how I hit the age of MTV watching right as MTV stopped playing music videos, my only connection visually with many bands was the album art. I remember being absurdly amused by the jumping dredlocked dog from Beck's Odelay album for example. I even covered my walls with album covers.
Fair enough, but don't you whipper snappers lament the lack of album art and inserts, or has downloading songs by themselves become so entrenched that accompanying visual aesthetics are no longer even relevant?
Seeing as I'm rapidly approaching forty something no whipper snappery from me…
I have been downloading and owning 100s of albums from eMusic since 2001 and quite honestly don't miss the lack of booklets from any of those.
To me most CD booklets are something I open up once or twice. I'm not really into reading lyrics or reading the multitude of artist thank yous. Sure there is the occasional a picture worth glancing at.
Now if the album is a retrospective, compilation, collection that has well written liner notes the artist(s) and material then thats material I want. The booklet in a Rhino Records boxset, such as Nuggets, is one of the reasons you buy such a thing. Same goes for a rare soul collection as it's nice to know what the story behind those artists, etc are.
Although when DJing it is handy for me to be to look at the cover of an album as it does jog the memory to which track I might want to quickly choose next. It would be tough for me to DJ on the fly from a huge iTunes library of tracks, as it just becomes a list of song without the visual cue cover art can provide.
I have been downloading and owning 100s of albums from eMusic since 2001 and quite honestly don't miss the lack of booklets from any of those.
To me most CD booklets are something I open up once or twice. I'm not really into reading lyrics or reading the multitude of artist thank yous. Sure there is the occasional a picture worth glancing at.
Now if the album is a retrospective, compilation, collection that has well written liner notes the artist(s) and material then thats material I want. The booklet in a Rhino Records boxset, such as Nuggets, is one of the reasons you buy such a thing. Same goes for a rare soul collection as it's nice to know what the story behind those artists, etc are.
Although when DJing it is handy for me to be to look at the cover of an album as it does jog the memory to which track I might want to quickly choose next. It would be tough for me to DJ on the fly from a huge iTunes library of tracks, as it just becomes a list of song without the visual cue cover art can provide.
I get my music in this order now: straight from the label if they do downloads, eMusic, then amazon mp3 downloads. I like supporting the label directly when I can. I like eMusic since you can re-download anything you've purchased. While the Amazon store doesn't let you do this, it basically has the best selection. All of these are DRM free.