GET RID of Echostage

;D

what's worse DAR or Echostage?

I think one of my biggest grips is they need to sell 500 less tickets

That you a squeezed in at the back of the club is absurd

where do bands go that can pack in 3000-4000 people (and tix are still $60+!!)

I managed to get a good spot at the Alt-J show and the sound was great IMO

I like DAR. DAR is great but it depends on the act. Sufjan Stevens was awesome there. I've also been to some really good sounding shows at DAR - Arcade Fire, Pixies, Erykah Badu, Damien Rice….

[red]excellent thread.  because if i owned a club and made $10k per night, i would totally shut it down based on what some random internet person said.[/red]

Echostage is KILLING music. The Replacements played there and now they're broken up! Coincedence!?!?!

of course not, there's a Get Rid of Ticketfly thread too and look where they are now…

grateful wrote:
[red]excellent thread.  because if i owned a club and made $10k per night, i would totally shut it down based on what some random internet person said.[/red]

echostage . . . the new, problem, that shapes our lives.

I just read this as "This venue isn't in walking distance to where I live and I'm afraid of NE DC."

MindCage wrote:
I just read this as "This venue isn't in walking distance to where I live and I'm afraid of NE DC."

that is between the lines, yes
but until a few years ago, 930 club was a sketchy hood too

I wasn't a fan.  The area didn't seem sketchy to me.  We ate at Panda Gourmet before the show (thanks for the suggestion, it was great!).  I think I agree with 500 tickets less, that might help.  And as I said in the other thread, I think raising the stage some would help as well.  We were upstairs for the first few songs of Tame Imapla and it sounded pretty shitty - coupled iwth terrible sight lines due to the columns.  We moved downstairs - the sound was much better, but so many people so we were crammed in the back…and had a tough time seeing the band.  I've been to sold out shows at the 930 and always feel like I can still see the band.

Sidehatch wrote:

MindCage wrote:
I just read this as "This venue isn't in walking distance to where I live and I'm afraid of NE DC."

that is between the lines, yes
but until a few years ago, 930 club was a sketchy hood too

A few years ago, even 10 years ago, you would have been mocked on this board as being a suburban pussy for saying that about the 9:30 area.

^yea and it kinda is starting to look like Bethesda where the 930 is

I enjoyed the one show I went to at Echostage.  It was Sasha.  I haven't been there when it's been packed, so I can't comment there.  It's a decent venue, high ceilings, lots of dance space and a great sound system.  Why hate it? 

Personally, if one IMP venue had to bite the dust, I'd pick the Lincoln Theater.  The upstairs sound, sight and seats all suck.  I'd go back if I could buy a reserved seat.  This get there super early to get a seat and then wait hours to see the band nonsense sucks.  I've already passed on 5 shows I'd see at other venues because they were at the Lincoln. 

DAR is great sight, sound, and seat wise, but they need to allow drinks in the seats.  If they don't, I'll probably continue to pass on shows there too. 

Lincoln Theater is also way overpriced and yes they should start doing reserved seating again.

medeski7 wrote:

Personally, if one IMP venue had to bite the dust, I'd pick the Lincoln Theater.  The upstairs sound, sight and seats all suck.  I'd go back if I could buy a reserved seat.  This get there super early to get a seat and then wait hours to see the band nonsense sucks.  I've already passed on 5 shows I'd see at other venues because they were at the Lincoln. 

medeski7 wrote:
I enjoyed the one show I went to at Echostage.  It was Sasha.  I haven't been there when it's been packed, so I can't comment there.  It's a decent venue, high ceilings, lots of dance space and a great sound system. 

echostage is better suited as a dance club than a music venue.  hence you didn't have a problem with seeing a DJ there.  the sound system was built with EDM in mind.  sightlines aren't as important.

medeski7 wrote:
DAR is great sight, sound, and seat wise, but they need to allow drinks in the seats.  If they don't, I'll probably continue to pass on shows there too. 

depends on the show.  some they allow drinks in the same, some they don't.

sound at DAR is very hit-or-miss.  really depends on whether the sound techs know how to work that room.  i've heard some great shows at DAR, and i've heard some of the worst there.  Eddie Izzard a few years back was unintelligible and unlisteneable if you were in the back half of the room.

medeski7 wrote:
DAR is great sight, sound,

lol. What?  Great sound at DAR???

I think DAR has some of the worst sound that I have ever heard.

^you edited that too quickly as I was going to give you a hard time for having
'the worst sound you had ever seen'

killsaly wrote:

medeski7 wrote:
DAR is great sight, sound,

lol. What?  Great sound at DAR???

I think DAR has some of the worst sound that I have ever heard.

I guess I'm with Sweetcell now that I think more about it.  I saw Oysterhead years back and it sounded god awful.  At the back of the room you could hardly make out some of the music.  However, I recall seeing Widespread Panic there and being really, really impressed with the sound quality.  I saw Primus there too and recall trying to compare it to the Oysterhead show.  Les was more audible all around in vocals and bass, but it still wasn't perfect.  I wonder why some bands have such a hard time with it.

medeski7 wrote:

killsaly wrote:

medeski7 wrote:
DAR is great sight, sound,

lol. What?  Great sound at DAR???

I think DAR has some of the worst sound that I have ever heard.

I guess I'm with Sweetcell now that I think more about it.  I saw Oysterhead years back and it sounded god awful.  At the back of the room you could hardly make out some of the music.  However, I recall seeing Widespread Panic there and being really, really impressed with the sound quality.  I saw Primus there too and recall trying to compare it to the Oysterhead show.  Les was more audible all around in vocals and bass, but it still wasn't perfect.  I wonder why some bands have such a hard time with it.

To be fair, you were seeing Oysterhead; how would you know if it sounded any good?

medeski7 wrote:
I wonder why some bands have such a hard time with it.

my guess is that it comes down to the sound techs - do they have the knowledge of and experience dealing with a big boomy room.