ggw
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Re: 2017 boardie survey
December 20, 2017 at 02:41 PM UTC
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Justin wrote:
So what are you going to do with all this data, Hutch?
Buy us Christmas presents?
hutch
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Re: 2017 boardie survey
December 20, 2017 at 02:54 PM UTC
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1. How many haircuts did you get in 2017?
1 or 2…I hate them
2. Name your favorite Tom Waits release/album (compilations ok)
Nighthawks
3. Most satisfying sexual position
Cant answer
4. Do you have a car?
Y
5. The concert you are most glad you where at
Johnny Cash at 930
6. Do you prefer the term "latino" or "hispanic"
Latino
7.musical instrument you wish you could play
Guitar
8. Did you buy a Christmas tree this year?
Yes
9. Average time of work commute
20 min
10. Do you believe in God?
No. But reserve right to change mind.
Sidehatch
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Re: 2017 boardie survey
December 20, 2017 at 04:20 PM UTC
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walkonbyeeeeeeeee wrote:
10. Do you believe in God?
who do you think invented all of this; phil rizzuto?
Until you mentioned it, I hadn't thought he might be a player in this…but I think he'd be great and would gladly kiss his ring
jrpa
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Re: 2017 boardie survey
December 20, 2017 at 04:33 PM UTC
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Brother wrote:
walkonbyeeeeeeeee wrote:
10. Do you believe in God?
who do you think invented all of this; phil rizzuto?
Until you mentioned it, I hadn't thought he might be a player in this…but I think he'd be great and would gladly kiss his ring
Concur. Now a total believer in the Rizzutogenesis.
grateful
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Re: 2017 boardie survey
December 20, 2017 at 11:23 PM UTC
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1. How many haircuts did you get in 2017?
Probly 6. I needed more, but i procrastinate.
2. Name your favorite Tom Waits release/album (compilations ok)
Can't say i know him. Is he that "Missing You" guy?
4. Do you have a car?
Yes, aforementioned.
5. The concert you are most glad you where at
Hmm. Maybe Lou Reed.
7.musical instrument you wish you could play
Odd question. I dont wish i could play an instrument.
8. Did you buy a Christmas tree this year?
Nope.
9. Average time of work commute.
21 minute drive, 7 minute walk.
10. Do you believe in God?
I dont believe in gods.
Space Freely
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Re: 2017 boardie survey
December 21, 2017 at 12:55 AM UTC
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I'd put the Johnny Cash 9:30 show near my top as well. Also saw him at a festival in Alabama.
Space Freely
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Re: 2017 boardie survey
December 21, 2017 at 01:59 PM UTC
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To me, Tom Waits has always been the ultimate music snob's artists. And I tend to think of people who take the time to post on music related message boards are the ultimate music snobs. Hence, I'm surprised at how many people here don't care for Tom Waits.
Secondly, a question for those who aren't 100% on their belief in God. How do you reconcile that with your celebration of the Christian holiday Christmas (assuming you celebrate it?)
Sidehatch
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Re: 2017 boardie survey
December 21, 2017 at 02:57 PM UTC
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Space wrote: How do you reconcile that with your celebration of the Christian holiday Christmas (assuming you celebrate it?)
because in my family it has zero to do with the baby jesus and exclusively around giving gifts, spending time with family and decorating a tree with non denominational ornaments.
that it happens to coincide with what a bunch of Christians do…well I could care less
jrpa
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Re: 2017 boardie survey
December 21, 2017 at 03:06 PM UTC
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Brother wrote:
Space wrote: How do you reconcile that with your celebration of the Christian holiday Christmas (assuming you celebrate it?)
because in my family it has zero to do with the baby jesus and exclusively around giving gifts, spending time with family and decorating a tree with non denominational ornaments.
that it happens to coincide with what a bunch of Christians do…well I could care less
So you're a massive hypocrite?
Sidehatch
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Re: 2017 boardie survey
December 21, 2017 at 03:19 PM UTC
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Julian, wrote:
So you're a massive hypocrite?
Definition of hypocrite: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
My stated belief is that I don't recognize the baby jesus as anything other than one human born two centuries ago
I don't think there is one line in the bible about giving gifts and decorating a tree at the end of December?
jrpa
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Re: 2017 boardie survey
December 21, 2017 at 03:20 PM UTC
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Brother wrote:
Julian, wrote:
So you're a massive hypocrite?
Definition of hypocrite: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
My stated belief is that I don't recognize the baby jesus as anything other than one human born two centuries ago
I don't think there is one line in the bible about giving gifts and decorating a tree at the end of December?
So you're a massive hypocrite?
Sidehatch
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Re: 2017 boardie survey
December 21, 2017 at 03:27 PM UTC
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Although Christians and non-Christians alike celebrate Christmas, the new survey shows they have differing views of the holiday. Two-thirds of Christians (65%) say Christmas is mostly a religious holiday, while most non-Christians see the holiday as more of a “cultural” event than a religious occasion.
Space Freely
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Re: 2017 boardie survey
December 21, 2017 at 03:38 PM UTC
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Brother wrote:
Although Christians and non-Christians alike celebrate Christmas, the new survey shows they have differing views of the holiday. Two-thirds of Christians (65%) say Christmas is mostly a religious holiday, while most non-Christians see the holiday as more of a “cultural” event than a religious occasion.
What percent of Jews, Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists celebrate Christmas and see it as a "cultural" event?
Space Freely
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Re: 2017 boardie survey
December 21, 2017 at 03:41 PM UTC
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Brother wrote:
Julian, wrote:
So you're a massive hypocrite?
Definition of hypocrite: a person who acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
My stated belief is that I don't recognize the baby jesus as anything other than one human born two centuries ago
I don't think there is one line in the bible about giving gifts and decorating a tree at the end of December?
Are you saying that if you *were* a Christian, you would strictly follow the Bible? Because a lot of the shit Catholics do isn't in the Bible. And I'm not just talking about the molesting, I'm talking about the rituals.
Also, are you saying Jesus was born in 1817?
Sidehatch
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Re: 2017 boardie survey
December 21, 2017 at 03:48 PM UTC
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Space wrote:
Brother wrote:
Although Christians and non-Christians alike celebrate Christmas, the new survey shows they have differing views of the holiday. Two-thirds of Christians (65%) say Christmas is mostly a religious holiday, while most non-Christians see the holiday as more of a “cultural” event than a religious occasion.
What percent of Jews, Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists celebrate Christmas and see it as a "cultural" event?
you left out atheists, satanists and what ever Julian is
Space Freely
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Re: 2017 boardie survey
December 21, 2017 at 03:57 PM UTC
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Brother wrote:
Space wrote:
Brother wrote:
Although Christians and non-Christians alike celebrate Christmas, the new survey shows they have differing views of the holiday. Two-thirds of Christians (65%) say Christmas is mostly a religious holiday, while most non-Christians see the holiday as more of a “cultural” event than a religious occasion.
What percent of Jews, Muslims, Hindus and Buddhists celebrate Christmas and see it as a "cultural" event?
you left out atheists, satanists and what ever Julian is
So are you saying that atheists and Satanists typically choose to celebrate a Christian holiday, but Jews, Muslims, Hindus, and Buddhists do not? Why is that?
hutch
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Re: 2017 boardie survey
December 21, 2017 at 04:03 PM UTC
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Actually sidehatch that makes no sense..but I get you could care less
It is also a wasted opportunity
Sidehatch
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Re: 2017 boardie survey
December 21, 2017 at 04:22 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
It is also a wasted opportunity
How so?
Isaac
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Re: 2017 boardie survey
December 21, 2017 at 04:34 PM UTC
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If we're going by biblical Christ anecdotes; my co-worker, who is a Jehovah's Witness, claims the reason they don't hold celebrations, while believing in Christ, is because the Bible makes no claim of Jesus' birth date or references a celebration of such within text. So in his words December 25th is just some arbitrary date.
I personally feel that it's safe to say that we live in a country where most Christmas revelers' primary image of the holiday is: fat man, red coat, and delicately wrapped (if you're my SO) expensive gifts (do people really gift cars for Christmas… 1995 Toyota Corolla here so what do I know) and a pine tree or reasonable facsimile. None of which, I think, existed at some time early AD in the middle east.
To me, "non-believers" celebrating Christmas is like a family that chooses to root for a sports team that they have no (or at best a tenuous) affiliation with. It's their choice, it's fun to have something that you like to do.
Maybe we should just roll pagan Christmas celebrations in with Thanksgiving, they're already playing the songs by then. That way the true believers can have the whole day for quiet contemplation or religious ceremony.
Also, I grew up baptized Catholic with a lapsed Jewish father. . . So I celebrate what I know. . . Presents, gelt and Chinese food.
jrpa
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Re: 2017 boardie survey
December 21, 2017 at 04:57 PM UTC
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evilizac wrote:
If we're going by biblical Christ anecdotes; my co-worker, who is a Jehovah's Witness, claims the reason they don't hold celebrations, while believing in Christ, is because the Bible makes no claim of Jesus' birth date or references a celebration of such within text. So in his words December 25th is just some arbitrary date.
This isn't really a claim, it's an established fact regardless of one's religious leanings. There was no Julian Calendar in Biblical times; December 25th did not exist. There is no date (via the Jewish calendar) given in the Bible, and most anecdotal evidence points to it being more in line with fall.
December 25th was decided upon at the Council of Nicea (or Trent, I forget). It gave sanction the habit early Christians had of turning the pagan holidays around the winter solstice into a "Christian" holiday to fit in. Similar story with Easter (which falls on a different date every year because, again, the Julian calendar did not exist and so Nican 14 falls on a different day each year).
None of these things are actually in the Bible, they're just morphed version of pagan holidays. Which is fitting since Christianity is a morphed version of pagan religions to begin with.