Space Freely
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Re: 2019 Albums
October 09, 2019 at 01:38 PM UTC
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Julian, wrote:
Yada wrote:
Julian, wrote:
Wilco hasn't had a good album since Summerteeth.
I wouldn't go that far back, but I would say it went downhill at an alarming speed after "A Ghost is Born."
I'll meet you in the middle and say YHF is utterly listenable. A Ghost is Born is straight trash tho.
I held that same opinion for years regarding A Ghost is Born. Then something clicked for me and now it may be my favorite, depending on the day of the week.
Space Freely
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Re: 2019 Albums
October 09, 2019 at 01:49 PM UTC
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Julian, wrote:
Space wrote:
Julian, wrote:
Wilco hasn't had a good album since Summerteeth.
Nick Cave has never put out a good album.
I can't say I have listened to him extensively enough to discredit his entire oeuvre but I've never liked anything I've heard by him. And yet so many people whose musical opinions I respect seem to adore him. I've always chalked him up as an artist I just "don't get".
Same, actually. From what I have heard, he's such a fucking overwrought drama queen. Get over yourself buddy. I'll give him a pass when it comes to songs about the death of his son, because that is fucking dramatic, but it seems like he's always that way.
grateful
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Re: 2019 Albums
October 09, 2019 at 01:57 PM UTC
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It's good to know when and where we have your permission to be human.
Space Freely
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Re: 2019 Albums
October 09, 2019 at 02:24 PM UTC
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Heilung4eva wrote:
It's good to know when and where we have your permission to be human.
He can be "human" all he wants, but that doesn't make me want to listen to all his moaning and groaning.
jrpa
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Re: 2019 Albums
October 09, 2019 at 02:27 PM UTC
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Space wrote:
Heilung4eva wrote:
It's good to know when and where we have your permission to be human.
He can be "human" all he wants, but that doesn't make me want to listen to all his moaning and groaning.
Yeah, I'm with Space, this is a terrible take. There are lots of people I am empathetic towards; its a false equivalency to present that if you do not like someone's musical creation you are dehumanizing them.
challenged
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Re: 2019 Albums
October 09, 2019 at 02:49 PM UTC
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Space wrote:
Julian, wrote:
Yada wrote:
Julian, wrote:
Wilco hasn't had a good album since Summerteeth.
I wouldn't go that far back, but I would say it went downhill at an alarming speed after "A Ghost is Born."
I'll meet you in the middle and say YHF is utterly listenable. A Ghost is Born is straight trash tho.
I held that same opinion for years regarding A Ghost is Born. Then something clicked for me and now it may be my favorite, depending on the day of the week.
Wilco Setlist from last night in Torontoe seems to be a little something for everyone. I am looking forward to the show. I met a couple the other night that are going to Radio City, Bklyn Steel, Anthem, and Charlottesville. They seemed nice.
Bright Leaves
Before Us
I Am Trying to Break Your Heart
War on War
One and a Half Stars
If I Ever Was a Child
Handshake Drugs
Hummingbird
White Wooden Cross
Via Chicago
How to Fight Loneliness
Bull Black Nova
Random Name Generator
Reservations
We Were Lucky
Love Is Everywhere (Beware)
Impossible Germany
Box Full of Letters
Everyone Hides
Heavy Metal Drummer
I'm the Man Who Loves You
Hold Me Anyway
Misunderstood
Encore:
California Stars
(Billy Bragg & Wilco cover)
The Late Greats
Space Freely
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Re: 2019 Albums
October 09, 2019 at 02:54 PM UTC
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challanged wrote:
Space wrote:
Julian, wrote:
Yada wrote:
Julian, wrote:
Wilco hasn't had a good album since Summerteeth.
I wouldn't go that far back, but I would say it went downhill at an alarming speed after "A Ghost is Born."
I'll meet you in the middle and say YHF is utterly listenable. A Ghost is Born is straight trash tho.
I held that same opinion for years regarding A Ghost is Born. Then something clicked for me and now it may be my favorite, depending on the day of the week.
Wilco Setlist from last night in Torontoe seems to be a little something for everyone. I am looking forward to the show. I met a couple the other night that are going to Radio City, Bklyn Steel, Anthem, and Charlottesville. They seemed nice.
Bright Leaves
Before Us
I Am Trying to Break Your Heart
War on War
One and a Half Stars
If I Ever Was a Child
Handshake Drugs
Hummingbird
White Wooden Cross
Via Chicago
How to Fight Loneliness
Bull Black Nova
Random Name Generator
Reservations
We Were Lucky
Love Is Everywhere (Beware)
Impossible Germany
Box Full of Letters
Everyone Hides
Heavy Metal Drummer
I'm the Man Who Loves You
Hold Me Anyway
Misunderstood
Encore:
California Stars
(Billy Bragg & Wilco cover)
The Late Greats
That's the exact same set in the same order that they played in London, with three songs trimmed out.
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/wilco/2019/eventim-apollo-london-england-439c1fb7.htmlDoes that couple live in northern Baltimore county?
challenged
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Re: 2019 Albums
October 09, 2019 at 03:00 PM UTC
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Space wrote:
challanged wrote:
Space wrote:
Julian, wrote:
Yada wrote:
Julian, wrote:
Wilco hasn't had a good album since Summerteeth.
I wouldn't go that far back, but I would say it went downhill at an alarming speed after "A Ghost is Born."
I'll meet you in the middle and say YHF is utterly listenable. A Ghost is Born is straight trash tho.
I held that same opinion for years regarding A Ghost is Born. Then something clicked for me and now it may be my favorite, depending on the day of the week.
Wilco Setlist from last night in Torontoe seems to be a little something for everyone. I am looking forward to the show. I met a couple the other night that are going to Radio City, Bklyn Steel, Anthem, and Charlottesville. They seemed nice.
Bright Leaves
Before Us
I Am Trying to Break Your Heart
War on War
One and a Half Stars
If I Ever Was a Child
Handshake Drugs
Hummingbird
White Wooden Cross
Via Chicago
How to Fight Loneliness
Bull Black Nova
Random Name Generator
Reservations
We Were Lucky
Love Is Everywhere (Beware)
Impossible Germany
Box Full of Letters
Everyone Hides
Heavy Metal Drummer
I'm the Man Who Loves You
Hold Me Anyway
Misunderstood
Encore:
California Stars
(Billy Bragg & Wilco cover)
The Late Greats
That's the exact same set in the same order that they played in London, with three songs trimmed out.
https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/wilco/2019/eventim-apollo-london-england-439c1fb7.html
Does that couple live in northern Baltimore county?
If I remember correctly, Howard county.
Space Freely
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Re: 2019 Albums
October 09, 2019 at 03:10 PM UTC
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challanged wrote:
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If I remember correctly, Howard county.
Ah, different couple. I have a friend who seems to be a bit of a Wilco groupie, I'm surprised she's able to hold down a professional job, lol.
sweetcell
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Re: 2019 Albums
October 09, 2019 at 05:32 PM UTC
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challanged wrote:
Heavy Metal Drummer
NAILED IT I AM THE WILCO WHISPERER!!!!!
nkotb
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Re: 2019 Albums
October 09, 2019 at 05:55 PM UTC
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Ahem…
nkotb wrote:
…I think I may be done with live Wilco…I guess I'm just done with the set lists they play…I'm not sure how many more times I can hear Heavy Metal Drummer, and the ensuing roar from the crowd…They play this song every damn show.
brokensocscene
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Re: 2019 Albums
October 09, 2019 at 05:58 PM UTC
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yeah, not a single deep cut. I may still go if I could find a $10 ticket.
hutch
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Re: 2019 Albums
October 09, 2019 at 06:35 PM UTC
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So you don’t like the classics or the new cuts…seven from new album
Not having seen Wilco since the Americana fest at Merriweather I don’t really have a problem with hearing classics and I think playing most of the new album is what a band should be playing
When did Wilco go off the rails? It’s pretty easy to tell as it was captured on a pretty well known film
Space Freely
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Re: 2019 Albums
October 09, 2019 at 06:47 PM UTC
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hutch wrote:
So you don’t like the classics or the new cuts…seven from new album
Not having seen Wilco since the Americana fest at Merriweather I don’t really have a problem with hearing classics and I think playing most of the new album is what a band should be playing
When did Wilco go off the rails? It’s pretty easy to tell as it was captured on a pretty well known film
They're playing a sold out Anthem show. And other sold out shows at other venue significantly larger than when they were playing when that film was made. Remind me, how did they go off the rails?
sweetcell
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Re: 2019 Albums
October 09, 2019 at 06:56 PM UTC
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Space wrote:
hutch wrote:
So you don’t like the classics or the new cuts…seven from new album
Not having seen Wilco since the Americana fest at Merriweather I don’t really have a problem with hearing classics and I think playing most of the new album is what a band should be playing
When did Wilco go off the rails? It’s pretty easy to tell as it was captured on a pretty well known film
They're playing a sold out Anthem show. And other sold out shows at other venue significantly larger than when they were playing when that film was made. Remind me, how did they go off the rails?
you are confusing success with commercial success.
Sidehatch
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Re: 2019 Albums
October 09, 2019 at 07:01 PM UTC
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sweetcell wrote:
Space wrote:
hutch wrote:
So you don’t like the classics or the new cuts…seven from new album
Not having seen Wilco since the Americana fest at Merriweather I don’t really have a problem with hearing classics and I think playing most of the new album is what a band should be playing
When did Wilco go off the rails? It’s pretty easy to tell as it was captured on a pretty well known film
They're playing a sold out Anthem show. And other sold out shows at other venue significantly larger than when they were playing when that film was made. Remind me, how did they go off the rails?
you are confusing success with commercial success.
Or quality new output vs riding their laurels
Also, they didn't even sell out the DAR last time
what was the last DC date?
hutch
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Re: 2019 Albums
October 09, 2019 at 07:08 PM UTC
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A band selling concert tickets on past glories…happens all the time
Let’s not rehash old arguments…the story is well known…arguably Tweedy didn’t have much choice if he wanted to survive…read his book
It’s a nostalgia show….I would guess 90% of people at Wilco will never bother to listen to new album and will be taking bathroom/smoking breaks during new songs
Nostalgia shows have their place
hutch
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Re: 2019 Albums
October 09, 2019 at 07:11 PM UTC
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I haven’t seen Wilco since Merriweather 2013 so I am looking forward to it….
…like I would a Rolling Stones show
Nothing wrong with this
Look forward to hearing a lot of old favorites and there are at least two songs on new album I really like
Space Freely
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Re: 2019 Albums
October 09, 2019 at 07:29 PM UTC
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sweetcell wrote:
Space wrote:
hutch wrote:
So you don’t like the classics or the new cuts…seven from new album
Not having seen Wilco since the Americana fest at Merriweather I don’t really have a problem with hearing classics and I think playing most of the new album is what a band should be playing
When did Wilco go off the rails? It’s pretty easy to tell as it was captured on a pretty well known film
They're playing a sold out Anthem show. And other sold out shows at other venue significantly larger than when they were playing when that film was made. Remind me, how did they go off the rails?
you are confusing success with commercial success.
What's the difference? The critics have liked the newer stuff and much as the older stuff, and they've expanded their fan base and now sell more concert tickets, without trying to sound any more commercial.
hutch
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Re: 2019 Albums
October 09, 2019 at 07:35 PM UTC
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But Wilco’s last few albums probably are selling less than 100,000 copies
It’s just that old fans still dig the old tunes so they go see them live