Sidehatch
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Re: Dropping off Spotify
January 31, 2022 at 05:50 PM UTC
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Starsky wrote:
Plenty of Neil fans have Spotify
define plenty
also how many of them own a Pono
think of all those he left with a useless yellow triangle for $400
System demise
On July 17, 2016, PonoMusic announced that it would be temporarily shut down due to the acquisition of their bankrupt content partner, Omnifone, by Apple Inc.They further stated that during this shutdown period, PonoMusic would be transitioning to a new platform provided by 7digital. The website, however, has been in a non-operating "under construction" state since then.
In April 2017, Young announced PonoMusic store was being discontinued, but with future plans to transition the service from a download model to a high-resolution streaming service to be known as "Xstream". As of October 2019, however, the service had yet to launch, and there have been no further announcements regarding its future.
gellman
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Re: Dropping off Spotify
January 31, 2022 at 05:52 PM UTC
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I still don't understand how Spotify doesn't even support lossless since it was supposed to launch [checks notes] summer of last year.
Sidehatch
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Re: Dropping off Spotify
January 31, 2022 at 05:55 PM UTC
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I know what I'm getting hutch for his birthday
https://www.ebay.com/itm/133992739558what is even sadder is the DMB one is worth more
https://www.ebay.com/itm/324951359933Am glad to see the Herbie Handcock one is going for double the DMB one
https://www.ebay.com/itm/293668792321
sweetcell
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Re: Dropping off Spotify
January 31, 2022 at 05:56 PM UTC
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Rogan portrayed himself as a figure who is just having interesting conversations, but at the same time he disputed the basic concept of misinformation. He claimed that changes in scientific opinion — for example about the effectiveness of cloth masks or the origins of the virus — have previously been viewed as misinformation and could have been banned on social media."Many of the things that we thought of as misinformation just a short while ago are now accepted as fact," Rogan claimed. (
source)
there is a lovely french canadian expression that, loosely translated, is "he has missed an excellent opportunity to remain quiet."
jrpa
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Re: Dropping off Spotify
January 31, 2022 at 06:08 PM UTC
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Starsky wrote:
Plenty of Neil fans have Spotify
Some have been bemoaning not being able to listen to Carnegie (on Spotify) on the Steve Hoffman forum
I had probably listened to Carnegie 5-8 times in its entirety on Spotify before it was removed. Love the little "Mayflower" story before Southern Man.
Yada
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Re: Dropping off Spotify
January 31, 2022 at 06:30 PM UTC
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BrettnotBritt wrote:
I still don't understand how Spotify doesn't even support lossless since it was supposed to launch [checks notes] summer of last year.
I'm sure your ears can easily spot the difference between 320 kbps and lossless… another moot point in the streaming services battle.
gellman
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Re: Dropping off Spotify
January 31, 2022 at 06:44 PM UTC
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Yada wrote:
BrettnotBritt wrote:
I still don't understand how Spotify doesn't even support lossless since it was supposed to launch [checks notes] summer of last year.
I'm sure your ears can easily spot the difference between 320 kbps and lossless… another moot point in the streaming services battle.
Audiophiles care about these things. It's literally why Quboz exists as a service.
Yada
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Re: Dropping off Spotify
January 31, 2022 at 06:58 PM UTC
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BrettnotBritt wrote:
Yada wrote:
BrettnotBritt wrote:
I still don't understand how Spotify doesn't even support lossless since it was supposed to launch [checks notes] summer of last year.
I'm sure your ears can easily spot the difference between 320 kbps and lossless… another moot point in the streaming services battle.
Audiophiles care about these things. It's literally why Quboz exists as a service.
I was unaware you were an audiophile and I know why these services exist… not to stream 320kps vs. lossless through airpods or $400 speakers.
My argument is the "audiophiles" out there Can't tell the difference between the bitrate of 320kps vs. lossless nor do they have the equipment to support it.
This isn't 1999 with an mp3 that's been ripped five different ways at 192kp.
Sidehatch
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Re: Dropping off Spotify
January 31, 2022 at 07:07 PM UTC
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Yada wrote:
This isn't 1999
but we can still party like it is
jrpa
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Re: Dropping off Spotify
January 31, 2022 at 07:25 PM UTC
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Yada wrote:
This isn't 1999 with an mp3 that's been ripped five different ways at 192kp.
I just remembered people re-encoding 128kp mp3s to 320 being a thing and I enjoyed the chuckle down memory lane.
jeffml
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Re: Dropping off Spotify
January 31, 2022 at 07:28 PM UTC
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Nerd
:)
Julian, wrote:
Yada wrote:
This isn't 1999 with an mp3 that's been ripped five different ways at 192kp.
I just remembered people re-encoding 128kp mp3s to 320 being a thing and I enjoyed the chuckle down memory lane.
sweetcell
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Re: Dropping off Spotify
January 31, 2022 at 09:08 PM UTC
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BrettnotBritt wrote:
Yada wrote:
BrettnotBritt wrote:
I still don't understand how Spotify doesn't even support lossless since it was supposed to launch [checks notes] summer of last year.
I'm sure your ears can easily spot the difference between 320 kbps and lossless… another moot point in the streaming services battle.
Audiophiles care about these things.
spotify, and other streaming services, care about staying in business. audiophiles are a very small, and shrinking, market. the number of homes that have a setup wherein 320 vs. loseless is audible (and the listeners can both hear and care about the difference) is vanishingly small.
BrettnotBritt wrote:
It's literally why Quboz exists as a service.
since spotify already offers 320kbit/s to paying members, i seriously doubt there is a business case for them to go loseless.
Yada
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Re: Dropping off Spotify
January 31, 2022 at 09:24 PM UTC
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sweetcell wrote:
since spotify already offers 320kbit/s to paying members, i seriously doubt there is a business case for them to go loseless.
for guys like brettnotbritt that have the hearing of a bat.
gellman
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Re: Dropping off Spotify
January 31, 2022 at 09:47 PM UTC
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Yada wrote:
sweetcell wrote:
since spotify already offers 320kbit/s to paying members, i seriously doubt there is a business case for them to go loseless.
for guys like brettnotbritt that have the hearing of a bat.
Nope, my horn tweeters would automatically disqualify me from that discussion. I just have a friend who is an actual audiophile with a five figure DAC and crazy expensive speakers that would scoff at the notion of subscribing to lossy audio services. It's a niche demographic, but again, services like Qobuz and Tidal heavily appeal to them because of access to those higher quality streams.
Space Freely
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Re: Dropping off Spotify
January 31, 2022 at 09:58 PM UTC
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Neil Young blamed homosexuals for AIDS:
In an interview with Melody Maker in 1985, Neil Young backed Reagan’s gun control policies and said of AIDS, “You go to a supermarket and you see a faggot behind the fuckin’ cash register, you don’t want him to handle your potatoes.” Needless to say, Young almost certainly regrets that horrific statement and quickly moved away from right-wing politics. He wrote the furious anti-George H.W. Bush screed “Rockin’ in the Free World” in 1989 and was one of George W. Bush’s most vocal critics in the 2000s.
https://www.rollingstone.com/music/music-news/michelle-shocked-not-the-first-artist-to-betray-her-fanbase-87622/
Sidehatch
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Re: Dropping off Spotify
January 31, 2022 at 10:19 PM UTC
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the rogan defenders are jumping on this like white on rice (is that offensive?)
I was shocked, when I saw your link, that people were still talking about Michelle Shocked (jeff tweedy cousin I think?) but the article is from 2013
also, could have cross posted in the potato's in the news thread
also they are cherry picking the quote…here is the full quote:
https://www.angelfire.com/rock2/traces/pages/legend.html
With half the material for a follow-up album to Old Ways already in the can, Young is in the middle of a renaissance of sorts. Not even the AIDS terror can dent his confidence.
"It is scary. You go to the supermarket and you see a faggot behind the fuckin' cash register. You don't want him to handle your potatoes. It's true! It's paranoid but that's the way it is even though it's not just gay people, they're taking the rap. There's a lotta religious people, of course, who feel that this is God's work. God's saying, y'know, "no more buttfucking or we're gonna getcha'."
Young cackled dementedly. "I don't know what it is. It's natural, that's one thing about it. It's a living organism or virus, whatever it is. I hope they find something to stop it. It's worse than the Killer Bees."
Young obviously isn't making a play for the Gay vote. They probably don't hold with that sort of thing in the country.
He was right on one thing, AIDS was definitely worse than the Killer Bees

although these guys could arguably be worse

Space Freely
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Re: Dropping off Spotify
January 31, 2022 at 11:34 PM UTC
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For the record, Michelle Shocked is the cousin of Max Johnston, who was in Uncle Tupelo and early Wilco. She is no relation to Jeff Tweedy.
Starsky
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Re: Dropping off Spotify
February 01, 2022 at 12:01 AM UTC
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It’s all covered in the Shakey biography
Like many liberals after the Carter catastrophe he went through a brief Reagan flirtation….
I give him a lot of latitude because of what was going on in his life with his new kid….when something like that happens you can lose the plot a bit for a while
sweetcell
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Re: Dropping off Spotify
February 01, 2022 at 12:01 AM UTC
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slightly wrote:
https://www.angelfire.com/rock2/traces/pages/legend.html
ah yes, angelfire… as an information source it's a notch above geocities, but still not at the level of blogspot.
Sidehatch
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Re: Dropping off Spotify
February 01, 2022 at 01:34 AM UTC
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sweetcell wrote:
slightly wrote:
https://www.angelfire.com/rock2/traces/pages/legend.html
ah yes, angelfire… as an information source it's a notch above geocities, but still not at the level of blogspot.
while i think it’s a funny throwback, I do think it is a copy of the original melody maker article everyone is referencing